I would like to know what was your way to Leica! What cameras or camera brands you were using before buying a Leica. What was the reasons of switching to Leica. I think that a lot of current Leica user were using Nikon in the past. Also I think that only a few photographers start photography with a Leica!

By the way my way to Leica M6 was:

Practica B100, Minolta X700, Nikon N8008S, FM2, F4S and Minox 35GT. I switched to Leica because it is small, simple and has very good lenses.

I am waiting for your ways to Leica!

Street Photography by Dimitris Kioseoglou

-- Dimitris Kioseoglou (kosefoto@otenet.gr), September 17, 2001

Answers

I dont have a Leica because I can´t afford it now. I am working to buy one. Actually I use a voigtländer Bessa-R. Those three reasons you have said are sufficient. Wich film have you used to take those picures?

-- Iñigo Uriz (iso25000@yahoo.es), September 17, 2001.

I dont have a Leica because I can´t afford it now. I am working to buy one. Actually I use a voigtländer Bessa-R. Those three reasons you have said are sufficient. Wich film have you used to take those picures?.

-- Iñigo Uriz (iso25000@yahoo.es), September 17, 2001.

My first functioning (I had a German Peggy VF camera as a toy before that--I understand they're collector's things now) camera was a Beauty Canter hand-me-down (sort of a M3 copy) from my brother (a photographer, too) in the fifth grade. I was using 2-1/4x3-1/4 press cameras (his hand-me-down again, and two other borrowed ones) in about the sixth grade through 11th, then a Nikkormat FS, which I only had for a year or so. Then he negotiated a IIIf for me after my senior year of high school, and that was the start of it. I've always found VF cameras more sympathetic to me than SLRs.

-- Michael Darnton (mdarnton@hotmail.com), September 17, 2001.

My first serious photos in 1968 were done with a rangefinder Canonet. The first pictures I remember being really impressed by were done with a Canon LTM. From then on it was all downhill with Pentax SLRs - first an SV, then Spotmatics and MX's. Finally an M4 in the mid-70's. Back to SLRs in the 80's and 90's with Nikons (Nikkormats, FTn's, F3 and FE2. I regained my senses about 4 years ago, and now shoot M6's. My F3/MD4 stays in service for long tele stuff (with a new Leica shoulder stock).

-- Paul Chefurka (paul_chefurka@pmc-sierra.com), September 17, 2001.

Started with (I can't believe I'm admitting this) a Zenit E plus a couple of Bushnell lenses. Luckily I had to upgrade when I dropped it off of a church balconey. This was in 1973 and I replaced it with a Nikon F2 and a couple of Nikon primes. Wow, what a difference. Afterwords I fleshed out the Nikon outfit and added a Mamiya 645 system in 1978. By then I had discovered Leica and bought a used M4 to use as my 'personal'camera. In 1986 I decided to give up pro photography and concentrate on my personal work. Sold the Nikon and Mamiya, bought more rangefinder gear and two years ago added R...

-- Bob Todrick (bobtodrick@yahoo.com), September 17, 2001.

Richo 500G -> Nikon FE -> Nikon F801s -> Nikon F90x & Mamiya TLR -> A few months ago; Sold the latter 3, the Mamiya- and AF-lenses, keept the FE + a few primes and bought a used M4 + Summicron 50.
Things just got too complex, I began to feel alienated by the auto everything and the Mamiya was too heavy so I never brought it with me.
Now the Nikon FE sits in the closet as back-up, and the Leica has brought the simple joy of photography back into my life again. I hope that I don't get the urge to buy more lenses, I am actually glad the lenses are so expensive ;-)

-- Niels H. S. Nielsen (nhsn@ruc.dk), September 17, 2001.

P&S's NOT included, Minolta SRT101 >>> Hasselblad 500C >>> Nikon FE >>> Nikon F3's >>> Nikon 8008 >>> Nikon F4's >>> Mamiya Super 23 >>> Pentax 645 >>> Plaubel Pro-shift 6x9 >>> Mamiya 645 >>> Mamiya RZ67 >>> Mamiya 7's >>> Linhoff 4x5 >>> Nikon F100 & F5 >>> Nikon 990 >>> Leica M6. Still own and use the Linhoff forward...

-- Jack Flesher (jbflesher@msn.com), September 17, 2001.

I started out with a Pratika, then upgraded to a pentax slr, which in turn I had to sell cause I needed the money. Being in college I believed beer to be more important at the time. Then I got a Canon Eos 100 with 28-80 zoom and 75-300 zoom. Liked it a lot, but the quality of the pixs was just not there. Then I upgraded to Nikon F100 and the AFS lensen. This absolutely sold me on the importance of good quality lenses. The results are stunning even at big enlargements. What a difference to the Canon (although the Canon lens I had was not in the same league as the Nikon lenses I currently own).

However calling that stuff bulky and heavy is an understatement. I hardly ever take it along. Thats why I've gone to the M6 with a summicron 50mm. It gives me the high quality I love and the portabilty I need. High quality lenses don't need to be heavy. I'm still not used to the focussing though. With backlight situations I find it impossible to see the focussing area at all, and its hard to keep fast moving keeps in focus if you perfer to shoot with minimal DOF, as I do.

-- Bas Wip (bas@baswip.com), September 17, 2001.

I started with a Nikon N50, nice mid-range amateur camera at the time but awful (for me) when I needed to move to manual settings. Got a Nikon FM10 (small manual camera) and, for better enlargements, a Pentax 6x7. These cameras taught me how little I knew about exposures, so I got a light meter and (gear lust here) a Nikon F100. Finally got a used Leica M2, for no reason I can personally defend. Now I carry the Leica by choice but supplement it with the Nikon FM10 when I want the option of shooting something in either black & white or color. And I carry the F100 for "I don't want to think about this but still want to shoot" days. I try to keep those down.

-- MBloxsom (penhelice@aol.com), September 17, 2001.

The first 35mm camera I ever remember using was a little Konica C35 rangefinder with an excellent 35mm Hexanon F2(?) lens. I was eleven on a church trip to the mountains during a rare snowfall and I treasure those pictures today. From there I rotated through Cannon AE-1, Yashica FX Super, Cannon T70, Minolta X700, Nikon N90, F4S and ,after the F4 kit was stolen, to the Leica M6(classic). I never forgot the magic of that first rangefinder sans zoom lenses and complicated automation and longed to concentrate again on the images instead of the technical settings. Still use the N90 especially when fill flash is necessary but with the M6 I don't have to spend my energy choosing between aperture, shutter or Program exposure modes, Matrix, spot or center metering, dynamic or focus lock, slow sync, rear sync or rear-slow sync flash, single, slow or high speed advance, etc. The last few months I have tried to concentrate on "making do" with just the M6 for almost everything and recently enjoyed the freedom it afforded on a cruise to the Bahamas with just one little camera and lens. Feel like I'm learning to see all over again and throughly enjoying it.

-- JLee (jlee@sccoast.net), September 17, 2001.

Yashica Electro 35 GSN Rangefinder Olympus OM-2 Olympus Pen FT Leica CL Mamiya C330 Minox LX Leica M5

I drive Fords, live in an average priced house and only have 1 suit. I do however have the finest cameras made, Leica and Minox.

-- mark (mramra@qwest.net), September 17, 2001.

Minolta X-700, Canon T90, Leica M4, Leica M6.

I switched because I found out I didn't need nor want the loads of functions the T90 offered. And because I ran out of power in the middle of the woods. Try finding someone selling AA-cells there...

Bert

-- Bert Keuken (bkkn@wanadoo.nl), September 17, 2001.

My first "real" camera was a Kodak rangefinder (Colt?) with fixed lens (1 yr). Then came a Minolta SR7 (3 yrs) which was replaced by a Nikon F2 Photomic (5 yrs). Added a pair of Nikon F3HP's (20 yrs). Just this year replaced most of the Nikon stuff with a Leica R8 and the following Leica R primes: 50/1.4, 90/2.0, 180/2.8 APO, and 280/4.0 APO with 1.4X APO and 2X APO extenders. As you can see, I like SLR's and long lenses. Except for prints of my family, I shoot only Kodachrome 64 slides of wildlife and scenics. Project the slides onto a 72" screen with Leica projector. WOW!! LB

-- Luther Berry (lberrytx@aol.com), September 17, 2001.

Wow, interesting posts! Canon A-1, Eos 10s, Eos A2E, Eos 1NRS, Nikon F5 (still have), added Canon 7, Canon 7s, Leica M4-p (sold stupidly), Leica M6 TTL. Cant imagine parting with either the F5, or the Leica.

-- Marke D. Gilbert (Bohdi137@aol.com), September 17, 2001.

My first 'real' camera was a Konica FP w/50mm f/1.4 Hexanon, which I got ca. 1965. If I listed all the cameras I've owned since then I'd be here all day. Suffice it to say that the last system I owned was an EOS 1v w/7 primes. I sold that and went to an Olympus E-10 because I thought the future for me was going to be exclusively digital. After several months of getting pretty, fun images with no beauty, I ditched the E-10 and bought a 90mm f/2 Summicron-M to dress up an old user M3 I was fooling around with. One roll convinced me I had done the right thing. Today I traded some old MF Nikon gear (which I couldn't focus accurately anymore anyway) for a 50mm f/2 Summicron-M. My Pentax 645 went toward a Hassy 500C/M and 80mm f/2.8 Planar, one of the all-time great camera/lens combinations. My photos with these Eurpoean beauties are in a completely new league from what I was getting with the EOS and the P645, let alone with the E-10. Maybe it's the glass, maybe it's the camera, or maybe it's the way I can bond with these cameras as opposed to those made in Japan, which I feel are high-tech marvels with little if any soul.

http://www.ravenvision.com/peterhughes.htm

-- Peter Hughes (ravenart@pacbell.net), September 17, 2001.

Interesting thread. Letssee now... Box brownie -> Regula (a cheap, obscure, German camera) -> various Exaktas -> Nikon SP -> Alpa 6c ->Leica M3 (first time. Never sell your Leicas!)-> Minolta srt101 -> Canon F1 -> Leica M3 -> Leica M4.

I still have the Canons and Leicas. I even have an old Exakta, as it appeals to my left handed nature, though I haven't used it in years.

-- Tom Bryant (boffin@gis.net), September 17, 2001.

Do you really want to know this.

Minolta SRT 101 (4), Nikon F, Leica IIIf, Rflex, Mamiya TLR (2)Blad CM, Deardorff, Linhof, Mamiya Universal, Nikon F2, Nikon FM, Nikon FE2, Leica M3, Leica M6 [there is more but the server only has so much space :)].

I have had a series of failures lately. The shutter in the M3 died, my favorite camera. The rewind on the FE2 [my second favorite camera] literally exploded in the middle of the mountains [took 30 min to find the parts in the pine needles]. The Rflex shutter failed. I will soon have more cameras in for repairs than some people have cameras. I think that I will have to look at some newer equipment.

Art

-- Art (AKarr90975@aol.com), September 17, 2001.

Started with an Olympus OM-10, Nikon F, then a Contax RTS II, Nikon F2A, and then to an F3hp+MD4 and an F5, both of which I still use now.

Got into Leica M's as a big skeptic. Found a single stroke M3 with a 50/2 for cheap, bought it, and loved the images made on it, but sold it for a pretty nice profit 3 weeks later.

Regretted every minute of my life after that.

Now I use an M2 with 21, 35, 50 and 90mm lenses. I am a happy man :-)

Badris. http://homepage.mac.com/badris

-- Badris (badris@mac.com), September 17, 2001.

Point & shoots + Kyocera Contax G2 + Zeiss Ikon Contax II & IIa. I still use all of these along w/my M3 & M2.

-- Chris Chen (furcafe@cris.com), September 18, 2001.

Used Nikons 1974-2000 with some experimentation along the way (F 1974- 1983, F2/FE 1983-85, FM2 1985-2000). Learned photography, took good pictures. Kept waiting for a compact, LIGHT, motor-incorporated body (A pro-version metal N2000 would have been nice). Tried AF bodies with MF lenses - got tired of push-button controls.

Tried Contax Aria for 6 months - in process also tried Contax G bodies for wide angles. Loved the CZ sharpness, RF viewing, small size, relative quiet, low shake, real dials and knobs. Hated the excessive contrast and ruddy color in slides (Velvia) from both G and SLR lines.

Made the mistake of trying M4-2 with 21 2.8 and 90 'cron. Found out the camera fired when I pushed the button, not at some random point in time later. What a concept! Long rich tonal scale with Velvia, instead of "color Kodalith". ("Whazzis? Shadow detail and highlight detail in the same picture?!" What a concept!) No pink clouds! - is this the same film??

Traded big pile of CY/CZ stuff for camera and two lenses. Didn't even know about 35 preasph 'cron (Joy 1!) or tiny 90 TeleElmarit (Joy 2!)

(an aside - CZ-G lenses really are as sharp or sharper than pre/APO- ASPH Leica lenses, especially 21-28, 45/50. But to quote Bill Pierce (digitaljournalist.org) "Don't confuse 'sharp' with 'good', or you'll find yourself shaving with an ice cream cone and licking razor blades.")

And here we are.

-- Andy Piper (apidens@denver.infi.net), September 18, 2001.

Agfa Isola (6x6, 80mm 1:6.3) hand me down from my father, Regula 35mm fixed lens, Praktica something or another, Olympus OM-10, Nikon FE2, Nikon F3, Bronica ETRS, Nikon F90, Leica CL, Mamiya RZ67, Mamiya 7II, XPAN, Leica M6.

-- Haim Toeg (haim_toeg@bmc.com), September 18, 2001.

I started with a porst 110 pocket camera, soon followed by a Practica MTL5, which broke down last year, and a Yashica T4. I wanted to stay manual and was hooked on the CZ lenses, so I bought an old Contax RTS & a Rollei 35 s, also started with cheap rangefinders (canonet and such) and came along an affordable M2 ... who can resist ? Andy: I cannot see your point with the CZ lenses, the ones I have are definitely not to complain about, but you have to take care of exact exposure. Shutter lag is also no problem with the RTS ;-). Still have the RTS, 35s, T4 and M2 and wouldn't part with it, each camera has its own field to use. Can't say Leica is better or worse, just different.

-- Kai Blanke (kai.blanke@iname.com), September 18, 2001.

Thanks for the question, Dimitris. It was interesting for me to recollect and to see below what cameras I had (maybe something is forgot):

Leica III (+) Kino-Exakta (-) Zenith S (-) Praktika FX (-) Contax D (- ) Start (-) Exakta Varex IIA (-) Contax A (-) Leica A (-) Contax F (-) Leica B (-) Nikon F (+) Leica IIIA (-) Leica IIIB (-) Leica IIICK (-) Leica IIIF RD (+) Contax II (-) Contax IIIa (-) Contax III (-) Contax IIa (-) 2 Leicas M3 DS (-) Nikon F2S (-) Rollei’s 35T, S (-) Minox EL (-) Leica M3 SS (+) Leica M2 ST (-) Leica M3 SS (-) Nikon F2A (+) 2 Leicas IIIG (-) a lot of SLR’s : Canon’s, Nikon’s, Pentax’s , Olympus, Minolta (all minus) 2 Rollei 35SE (+) Nikon F3 (-) Leica M3 SS (+) Leicaflex std (-) Leicaflex SL (+ but no need in it) Leica M4P (+) Leicaflex SL2 (-) Nikon F3 HP (+) Leica CL (-) Leica IIF BD (+) Leica std (+),

(+): is now with me;

(-): isn’t,

another story is for MF/LF-cameras .

-- Victor Randin (ved@enran.com.ua), September 18, 2001.

It's embarassing to think back really. So much money spent on gear.

I started with an M4-P in the mid eighties. Then a hasselblad. Then gave up snapping. When I restarted I tried the Contax G2, then the Leica R6 and am now using the M6. Which suits me fine. I think my next camera will be digital.

R.

-- rob (rob@robertappleby.com), September 18, 2001.

Nikon FM, Nikon FE, Nikon F3, Nikon Twin (when the kiddies arrived), Nikon F70, M6 TTL. I switched to Leica because Nikon (like almost everything else, basically) has become too automatic, big and heavy (at least for me). I like Leica's own creed (no, I don't work for the company) that with a Leica M, I'm in command of the camera, not the other way around. Further, they always state "fascination via precision" (again, which is what I like). My favourite philosophy here is the love of mechanical perfection und timelessness. That's all.

-- Michael Kastner (kastner@zedat.fu-berlin.de), September 18, 2001.

This is really simple: the stuff I don't have any more: 127 box camera, Kodak Retina, 2x Nikon FTn, 2x Leicaflex SL (sold - stupid), Leica R4s, 2x Leica R4sP.

The stuff I have now: 3x Leicaflex SL, Leicaflex Standard, Leicaflex SL2. I sold the Nikons after a few months using the first SL because my k-chromes were much better, with rich, clean colors. The R4s and R4sP were my attempts to modernize, but I sold two and gave one to my daughter when I could no longer focus them accurately. The SL meets 99% of my needs. For the other 1% there's the Leicaflex Standard and the SL2.

-- Douglas Herr (telyt@earthlink.net), September 18, 2001.

Oops! I forgot to mention the Leica R3, R4, R6, which I wasn't happy with.

-- Victor Randin (ved@enran.com.ua), September 18, 2001.

Oops again! I forgot to point out above the Nikon SP, Canon 7S, Canon 7Sz. I wasn't happy with them.

-- Victor Randin (ved@enran.com.ua), September 18, 2001.

1st real camera at age 11: Kodak Vigilant 620 folder (found in the attic). Inherited Leica IIIa and IIIfBD + 35/3.5-50/3.5-50/2-90/4- 135/4.5 at around age 13, still have them. Bought Nikon FTn in HS (still have)and M4 in college along with Nikon F2 (still have both). Later on got a couple of M2s and an M4-2 (since sold), finally got 1st M6 around '89-'90 and second around '96. Upgraded Nikons through F3 to F4 and currently F5, F100 and n80. Got into Hasselblad several years ago after short flirtations with Pentax67 and Horseman VH-R. In last couple years have gotten into Leica R, the jury's still out on that decision and I haven't given up Nikon. I own a couple of digital SLR's of modest (1.3-1.4 mp) resolution, which I bought for next-to-nothing and use for e-mailing purposes, but I've no intention of spending major bucks on digital cameras until their resolving power has reached that of traditional film, with the same portability and price range.

-- Jay (infinitydt@aol.com), September 18, 2001.

I started photo at 15 years old with my first camera, Foca Sport( is there somebody who knows this French mark?). My dreams were Nikon F, Leica M4 and Rollei 6x6. After Zenit E (a great "monument"!!), Pentax MX (robbed)then ME Super, Nikon F50, and ... 35 years, I began to realize my dreams: a second hand dirty Rollei 6x6 and then a Leica M6 TTL (new). Next year, perhaps the Cron 35 Asph, but it's another story! As long as we dream ... Alain

-- alain.besancon (alain.besancon@chu-dijon.fr), September 18, 2001.

Didn't we do this thread last year? My personal path into the Leica World: Pentax K1000 -> Nikon N90S -> Canon EOS 1N RS -> Leica M6 TTL + Leicaflex SL (2) & SL2 + Leica R8 + Leica M3 (2) with a dozen M and R lenses. It has been an interesting journey!......................

-- Muhammad Chishty (applemac97@aol.com), September 18, 2001.

I started out in amateur photography with a Yashica 44 camera when I went off to college. This camera was loaned to my by my father. I used it consistently for all four years of college and when I got my first job, I purchased a new Contax RTS (original version). I purchased the camera with the standard 50mm lens then added the 60mm macro and the 200mm Tele-Tessar. I purchased my first Leica (an M3 with a collapsible 50mm Summicron) about 8 years ago. I subsequently sold my M3 (big mistake) and purchased an M6 (a great choice). I am completely happy with my M6 since I really enjoy the convience of a built-in light meter. I have a 35mm Summaron, 50mm Summicron, 90mm Elmarit, and a 135mm Tele-Elmar. I really enjoy using Leica equipment and continue using it on a regular basis. I especially like the rangefinder focusing.

-- John Alfred Tropiano (jat18@psu.edu), September 18, 2001.

Mmm. Used Argus C3 in about 1961 from my uncle (got a couple published with that!), Fujica V2, then into some newspaper work with a nasty Zenit E, shortlife Mamiya-Sekor 1000DTL, then Spotmatic Fs, adding an M2 for meeting room and portrait work, replaced the Spots with Nikon FM etc and added a Minolta CLE. Plus a Franka Rolfix that works great with Portra NC and XP2. There were some rollfilm Fuji RFs along the way.

-- Josef Brugger (jbrugger@pcez.com), September 18, 2001.

Kodak Instamatic 126 in 5th grade. Minolta (SRT-101?) SLRs borrowed from a photo class in middle school. Parents' Canon AE1. After college: Pentax K1000, some MF (Fuji, Rollei), Hexar AF, now Leica M6. The Hexar was my gateway camera ;-)

For the last 3 years, I'd say I'm close to 5% SLR- the rest Hexar and now M.

-- TSW (tsesung@yahoo.com), September 18, 2001.

Canon T70 back in 1984 was my first camera. I bought my second camera in Dec. 2000, it was a new Leica M6 TTL along with Hasselblad 503CW. I have added Contax G2 black kit, Contax TVS III, Rolleiflex 2.8GX, Rolleiflex 3.5E to my camera list.

-- Chris L. (rangefinders@yahoo.com), September 18, 2001.

Nikon FM >> Nikonos III >> Nikkormat FT3 >> Nikon FE2 >> Olympus P&S (forgot model) >> Nikon FM2 >> Yashica T4 Super >> and finally, paradise: Leica M6TTL

-- Ken Geter (kgeter@m-net.arbornet.org), September 18, 2001.

I started with my Dad's Argus C-3 rangefinder, then moved to an Olympus Pen EE2 (a gift) then had to have an SLR in high school and purchased a Canon Ftbn which I loved. Moved to a Nikon N2000 (another gift), but always remembered that some of the best pictures I ever took were with my Grandfather's Nikon SP which, alas, was sold when he died. Looking to recapture that experience after a hiatus from photography, I acquired a used M4-P and then a used M6 Titanium, the handsomest and most exciting camera I've ever owned. I think I've found a home with Leica photography and the pictures I've taken since owning Leica have renewed my love of the art.

-- Peter B. Goldstein (peter.goldstein@us.cgeyc.com), September 18, 2001.

I've always despised using a flash, but since I have chronic insomnia, I find that I'm awake at night much more than during the day. Cameras that function well for shooting in the dark appeal to me. I've owned (and currently own and use) a number of different cameras, but the ones that led most directly to Leica were a Canon FT with 55/f1.2 and a Kodak Retina IIIc with Schneider 50/f2 Xenon. The low-light capabilities and limited DOF of the Canon are good, but the massive mirror-slap of the Canon F-mounts kept handheld shutter speeds at 1/60 or faster. The rangefinder design and leaf shutter of the Retina made handheld shooting at 1/30 and below (with a 50mm) easy, but the max. aperture of f2 was limiting, and the squinty viewfinder was annoying. After carefully surveying what was available, the M3 and M-lenses seemed the best tools for working in low light while providing outstanding quality. They also work well when there's plenty of light.

And, of course, chicks dig Leicas. ; )

-- Mike Dixon (mike@mikedixonphotography.com), September 19, 2001.

My last word (before leaving the building): as for our Ms, I love thinking and talking about them even more than being able to handle the speed, focus and aperature. I'm sure that isn't of very much interest to anybody else here, but I just can't think that this (type of love) would apply to any other companies' models.

Actually, this is no answer to your question (The way to Leica). It's just my way at or with or from Leica. I'm off.

-- Michael Kastner (kastner@zedat.fu-berlin.de), September 20, 2001.

Now in one line: "Is it our cultworthiness?"

-- Michael Kastner (kastner@zedat.fu-berlin.de), September 20, 2001.

I feel kind of inadequate in my history.....Yashica T4 [p&s] then M6.

-- Richard (richard@designblue.co.uk), September 21, 2001.

I feel kind of inadequate in my history.....Yashica T4 [p&s] then M6.

Holy tantric camera buying- take your rocket to camera nibbana!

;-)

-- Tse-Sung (tsesung@yahoo.com), September 25, 2001.

youth was yashica electro 35 ,didnt know how to use it,never red instruction,it was brand new and i gotted it with stamps when i was little,i new then i was a camera person, i took some great fotos with low lite, never ever used a flash with camera,i remember i could not understand why it was so great pics. then went to a mamiya 35 ,was ok, then went to expensive nikon with lots of features ,never enjoyed ,sold it cheap, then was using point and shoot ,then back to a electro 35 old one , still great foto taker,then yashica 124,over rated in my opinion,then ricoh auto 66,some of best out door without flash pics i have ever taken in my life,very very underrated 6x6,my friend begged me not sell,next was a old contaflex super with little wheel on front,mirror sticked some but i used anyway and was absolutely best i have ever seen good-lighting fotos at 125th in my years , better than any....now is mint rolleicord (good pics not great)and another like new electro 35 gt that with fresh battery is wonderful ,i just took some night pics at a game and all turned out near perfect,these is great cameras, and final is my M-3 which is very wonderful lens....maybe some day i will has me one them m6. but i will sell my camera soon as usual... the zeiss type lenses is legendary in my opinipn,even on that old contaflex,the bad thing is ppl leave them shutter engaged and it stretches them springs,that is sad as they are so good daytime cameras.but my biggest surprise in my life and prized other than leica is my old yashica and that old richo auto 66 , but it is gone now. sorry for so much writing. if to much then delete please. im sorry.. your friend ,natalie hei tieu

-- hei tieu (natalie is my nick) (glamourpho@yahoo.com), January 05, 2002.

que maquina es mejor, una eos 5 de canon o una f100 de nikon?

-- jose antonio bravo (fotonautica@latinmail.com), June 19, 2002.