As the dog sees it... or "WTF"

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I am late coming into this conversation, but you can bear with me, I know it.

Armageddon... No one has spoken to that topic yet. Al-D has come close.

I want so bad for the US to nuke the terrorists into the stone age. But then, another part of me worries what an extended engagement and eventual world war means.

I have been completely numb for a almost a week now. Images of people jumping out of windows at the WTC... Watching FAA and FBI sift through the garbage pile in PA that was an airplane this time last week. Watching the mass of American workers unearth the massive pile of rubble that used to be the most amazing piece of urban America ever seen. The hole in the Pentagon did not affect me as bad for some reason. It seemed trivial compared to the video of the 757 slamming into tower #2 from half a dozen different angles...

I have to give the terrorists credit, the delay in the impact to tower #2 made sure the legacy was on film and forever embedded into the history of America, and as a training booster for the future terrorist troops that are anticipating their romp in nirvana with a bunch of virgins... Scary... They are looking forward to dying while killing their enemies... They define us as their enemies, because of the freedom we have as a people.

These assholes harrassing or harming Americans of middle eastern heritage sicken me. However, not knowing who among the Moslem faith are the 1% that are Islamic extremists, is also a worry. That attack was way too slick not to be an inside job. Where will they strike next?

I guess I really don't know how to feel yet. As has been said, "revenge is a dish best served cold"... My experience with revenge is that it is never as sweet as it seems it would be.

I think I will go clean my .45 now...

If there is a God, I hope he watches over the good people of the earth. I hope I am in that group. You can spare me the Christian organized religion crap. It would be a waste of your time and it would annoy me. (get it?)

scratchin' an itch...

The Dog

-- The Dog (dogdesert@hotmail.com), September 16, 2001

Answers

please define a ''good person''hi dog, amigo!! JESUS said ''only GOD is good'' you got some good stuff goin on in ya,its HIM. IT,S REAL SIMPLE =LOVE[GOD] AND YOUR NIEGHBOR. WHO NEEDS ORGANIZED RELIGION. I HATE TOO TELL IT,BUT IT'S GONNA GET WORSE. HE SAID SO!!!!!!

-- al-d. (dogs@zianet.com), September 16, 2001.

We all seem to agree that something needs to be done to stop this from happening again, the tough part is what? How do we root these guys out without starting WWIII?

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), September 16, 2001.

Saturday night: the Dog, in sleeveless undershirt, perspiration trickling across left brow, shaded chandelier focused on dining room table below, revealing freshly oiled .45 in hand, while satisfying visions of flying carpets, full of holes, are projected on the subconscious teleprompter......

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), September 16, 2001.

"These assholes harrassing or harming Americans of middle eastern heritage sicken me. However, not knowing who among the Moslem faith are the 1% that are Islamic extremists, is also a worry. That attack was way too slick not to be an inside job. Where will they strike next?"

You're on to something here Dog. What we need to do is embrace the 99.9% of Moslems in this country that are glad to be here and against tearing it down. We need their help in identifying the bad ones. This won't happen if they are being persecuted by their neighbors and co-workers. Already I have hears things from several co-workers of Middle Eastern heritage about ugly things said to them. This is insanity and indicative of the mentality of those mental midgets of who barely got out of even today's lax high schools.

-- Lets have (some@sanity.please), September 16, 2001.


How do we root these guys out without starting WWIII?

By Bin Laden's design and intention, it's already started but folks just don't realize it yet.

-- Side (Line@Observer.com), September 16, 2001.



WWIII started September 11, 2001. The first battle took place in New York. Wake up. The world war has started already. It just seems unreal, doesn't it?

-- Tony Baloney (Fuck the@terrorists.com), September 16, 2001.

Dog, after reading your post I brought up the answer screen. I want to say something to you but I am sitting here with no words. Like you, I am numb and 'living between the worlds' of love and hate, war and peace, belief and disbelief.

Uncle Deedah started something really beautiful for us and that is where I'll start ... I love you.

I love our country, our way of life, our 'big quarrelsome family' and I want to make sure everyone stays safe.

The morning of the attacks my 19 year old daughter was home with me getting ready for class, my 23 year old son was who knows where and my 14 year old daughter was at her high school. I watched as events unfolded on tv. We live in northern NJ, an area which, as far as I could tell, had 'no way out.' The WTC to the north, DC to the south, PA to the west and the Atlantic ocean to the east.

Our cell phones were not working and so I could not contact my son. After the attack on the Pentagon I told my daughter that if one more thing happened I was going to go to the high school and get my youngest. The plane went down in PA and so I went to pick her up. At school there were many parents doing the same. I'll never forget the looks on the kids faces. These are high school kids, you know, the ones that 'know everything'. They had no way to process this, and most adults couldn't help. Silly me, I was thinking as I was driving to get her - she is going to be mad at me for 'embarrassing' her. She was not - she looked worried and she said 'Mom, I knew you would be here soon'. There were two mothers there with their children, crying because their dads worked at the WTC. One came home, one didn't.

Within an hour my son showed up at my door. He came to be here for his mother and his sisters and I have never felt such love. He was on the phone constantly with his friends and I listened as he spoke of what the future may require of them.

My children were with me, safe, and we watched and waited with the rest of America.

We are still watching and waiting with the rest of America, with you. Someone here said something that I can't get out of my head. They said:

"They used innocent Americans to kill innocent Americans."

They used our mothers and fathers, our sisters and brothers, our children to kill our mothers and fathers, our sisters and brothers, our children ... but I have to ask - who are 'they'?

They are the religious. Which religious? The Moslems? I don't think it's that simple. That's why I posted The American Taliban: The Cancer On The Soul Of Our Country followed by Smoking or Non-Smoking?

"This is not a clash of civilizations — the Muslim world versus the Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Jewish worlds. The real clash today is actually not between civilizations, but within them — between those Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Jews with a modern and progressive outlook and those with a medieval one. We make a great mistake if we simply write off the Muslim world and fail to understand how many Muslims feel themselves trapped in failing states and look to America as a model and inspiration."

Armageddon? IMHO, if anyone thinks that we can avoid Armageddon by wiping out the Moslems they are sadly mistaken. ALL religious fanaticism will lead to Armageddon. Wiping out one religion only makes another stronger. What if the extremism of Falwell gained control of our government?

"What is objectionable, what is dangerous, about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents."

- Robert Kennedy

And I wait with you Dog. And I don't know what I'm waiting for. I am angry, I am sad, I am afraid. Did I mention that I have a 23 year old son? Did I mention I have a 19 year old daughter? I know they will come for him. Will they also come for her? IN THE NAME OF GOD, WHY?



-- Debra (Thisis@it.com), September 16, 2001.


Deb, what a beautiful well spoken piece of writing. I "feel" exactly what you are feeling.

I took yesterday and decorated my big pine tree with red white blue ribbon. I made a sign that read :THIS IS FOR YOU JOSHUA HARSCH. See, he is a 19 year old friend of mine. I changed his diapers. He is stationed at NAS in Va Beach on shore duty. He came home last weekend for a death in his family. I held him. He left on Sunday he went out on a ship on Tuesday but could not tell us where, it is secret.

The pain I feel is incredible. I love this boy as if he were one of mine. His mother left him. His dad is a vietnam vet suffering with kidney disease. I pray he comes home. I am afraid they will come for my 20year old. He has 2 children. My youngest will be 18 in May.

May God Bless America and bring ALL our people SAFELY home.

I believe in Miracles.

Sumer aka, Carrie

-- sumer (I@aint.sayin), September 16, 2001.


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