Thursday, 6/28

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Oh y'all. I'm starting this a day early because of this story. So I'm checking my referrel and someone from PST googled "pam + eric" and hit my page. It was the photo entry from Squishycon in Vegas. But how WEIRD is that??!

It was pacbell.net and I'm pretty sure pam is home.com, but maybe stee is pacbell.net? I don't know.

-- Anonymous, June 27, 2001

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That is odd. But, that's a legitimate entry for them to find. I'm sure everyone who went to Squishycon showed up in that google search.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

And I know there could be lots of other people searching for pam /eric besides pam, but it kind of weirded me out.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

True, true.

Anyone want to come do my work for me?

Kevin and I went to dinner last night and had a good time. Maybe Vegas was just gimpy foot/chaos/jet lag etc.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Only if you come here so I can take a nap. I am wiped. Thank goodness tomorrow is Friday. Whew.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

And then I have most of next week off. Yay!

The newest post to the Nice Girl thread made me have to put my head down for a few minutes. Lord.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001



the one from that guy? I couldn't tell if he was joking.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

T - where's the post about the girl who wants to lie to her mom? The one you said you wanted to get snarky on?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

The one about the woman who yelled at her friend and told her she should never have kids "LOL".

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Did WriterGirl email you her etiquette question, T?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Oh, that's in the "Your living under my roof..." thread.

No, she never emailed it. Maybe she changed her mind.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001



Oh, god, that was awful. And I bet you cash money that the tacky yelling girl is like, 19. I'm sorry, but when your child is having a tantrum at brunch, you're obligated to do what you can to keep the other diners from having an awful time. You shouldn't ever have a tantrum yourself.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

And, you know, a)that's when you take your child outside and b)if someone else steps in, because you're not doing anything, you say you'd prefer to handle it yourself and for chrissaked HANDLE it.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Oh, I'm sure she's a teenage mom.

I wonder what writergirl's question was. Hmm.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


what's the secret URL? I JUST got (1:35 est) your notify. I usually get them really late.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

http://www.nakedsometimes.com/ssshh.html

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


I just got it, too.

What was your catalyst for leaving the Mormon church?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


I honestly don't know. I don't think there was any one thing- I remember being baptized at age 8 and feeling like there was something I was supposed to be getting out of it that I just wasn't. And the older I got and the more I was exposed to beyond church and family, the less sense it made.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

The less sense the tenets of the faith made? When did you first tell your parents that you just couldn't believe?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Yes, and the less it all seemed even plausible.

When I was 14.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Was it a formal, sit-down, "Folks, I just don't believe this, and I know this hurts you, and all, but I just don't think it's plausible" kind of thing?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

I don't think I was quite that mature at 14. It was more of an I don't want to go to church anymore because I don't believe it.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Do your sisters ever talk to you about religion?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Sarah does, all the time. Rebekah occasionally.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Sarah's in Paraguay? Is Rebekah going to go on a mission?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

I think I've asked you this before, but would your parents be okay with it say if you wanted to be Methodist or are they LDS only?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Rebekah probably won't- I think she and Leo will get married when he comes back. But who knows.

Oh, no, strictly LDS. There's no point in being Methodist, because you still miss out on the blessings of the temple and eternal life, etc.

I have to buckle down and work today- I imagine I'll be here until at least 8. Blech.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Are both her and Leo dating other people, or just Rebekah? Does she feel like it's okay to put up with the guy who may or may not hit her, as Leo will be back soon and they'll get married and start their own family?

I think I remember you saying that your nonbelief in Mormonism jeopardizes your family's chance at a happy afterlife - do I remember that correctly?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Yep, that's correct. The whole goal is for your family to be together forever, and if I'm not there, it ruins it.

Missionaries don't date, so Leo obviously isn't seeing anyone else. They encourage girls to date other people, too, so the missionary isn't focussed on keeping up a relationship while on the mission.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Wait - I didn't realize that the church encourages the girls to see other people - that's fascinating. Do you think that's so the girls won't have wasted two years waiting for their guy to return, only to have him change his mind? And that way, the girls will be able to marry sooner - like having a backup?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Oh, yeah. The girls almost ALWAYS marry someone else.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

But the reason is so that the guy can focus on his missionary work- it's the same reason you can only call home twice a year. It's all Jesus, all the time.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Do they take a different approach for girls who take missions? Like, when Sara gets back, will there be a guy waiting for her?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Teri - That's why Karisa didn't marry John Whatshisface. They pushed her on and he got a literal Dear John letter.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Girls who have guys they are that serious about usually don't go on missions- they get married. That's why girls don't go until they are 21, instead of 19. Most girls are married by 21, or serious, so they don't go on a mission.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

That's right - I forgot about the Dear John part.

It's so interesting that they don't send women until they're 21 - that's post-college, I imagine? Do they think that if the woman isn't married by then, she should be of another use to the church?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Pretty much, yeah. It's not considered mandatory for women to go- it's more if you are 21 and you're unmarried and you want to. One of my college roommates just got back from her mission a year ago and is now engaged. Which is what usually happens.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Are older (and I use that term loosely) women considered more marriageable if they've completed a mission? Have women always been allowed to go on missions?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

I'm not sure- I don't think so. I know it was much rarer, say, 20 years ago, and now a lot more women WANT to go on missions and so they wait deliberately.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

How do you think the church feels about that?

Mercy, this day is dragging. Chris just called me and we're babysitting tonight, which is a nice excuse to eat pizza. Jacob's a sweet kid, though, and he just adores Chris. All of Chris' clothes have ink stains on them (because he eats his pens, and it's not a good idea to eat V-5 pens) and when Josh, Jacob's dad, came home with an ink stain on his shirt, Jacob said, "Oh, Dad! Your shirt looks just like Chris!"

Sorry.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


The story about Chris in court with ink on his face? My favorite.

Some of those 3wa sex posts are pretty graphic. Sheesh

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


What's the ink face story?

I think the church is adapting, slowly. There's definitely not as much of a stigma- when I was little, sister missionaries were all, um, large and unattractive.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Like, it was something to do with latent lesbians?

The ink in court story goes like this:

Chris was delivering oral arguments in a case. It was a preliminary hearing, so he was sitting at the table. He talks with his hands, and midway through his arguments, he noticed that one of his hands was covered in ink. He put that hand under the table and finished his arguments, thinking that he hadn't missed a beat. After the hearing, he went to the men's room to wash his hands. He immediately noticed that he had ink all over his cheek and his chin, and accordingly, was mortified. He asked his partner, Mike, who was well- versed in any courtroom situation, why he didn't say anything. Mike is all old-south politician (he was AG for years) and he said, "Well, son, you were doing so well, I just didn't want to distract you!"

Chris always has ink stains on his hands and his ankles. When he reads/edits something, he sits with his legs crossed and pokes his pen into the ankle that's up on his lap. I can tell when he's had to read some awful crappy briefs from the younger associates.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Oh no! They took the mitlaw.com site down - it had the cutest picture of Chris (non-inky). He had just gotten back form Patagonia and he was all tan.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Hee. Cute freckled inky Chris.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

With his curly hair. He's let the curls grow a little, and when it's humid like it's been, it gets kind of poofy. So cute. For me, at least. He hates it.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

T - do you ahve dinner plans with Allison or anything for when you get back? How far do they live from y'all?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

We're going to get together next week, when they're back form Alabama and Chris is settled in at work, and we're back from Destin.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

They live about 12 minutes away from us. It's really easy to get to Buckhead form our house.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

oh that's right, they have to turn around and go to Birmingham. I wonder what JoLo thought of Huff.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

I just got the yummiest-looking catering proposal:

Trays with miniature muffelatas, petite crawfish cakes with caviar remoulade, sweet onion crustini topped with blue cheese and a port wine-poached pear, and buffet stations with smoked salmon with all the good stuff, a bbq shrimp risotto station, a carving station with blackened round served with apple smoked bacon or jalapano preserves, roasted, grilled, and smoked gouda vegetable terrine, chilled grilled shrimp and jicama salad, grilled duck breast served with a raspberry demi glace, fruit and cheese, and a risotto station with shrimp, mussels, and crawfish served with a lobster sauce.

$7000 for 300 people. Nice.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001


Teri, why you gots to make me so hungry?

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

You'll just have to wait until May. And Joh, one of your jobs will be to make sure I get to eat. Otherwise, I'll be all crabby and dizzy and drunk. Not pretty.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

Oh, I didn't even realize I'd be invited! I figured family/RL friends would take most of the spaces. Sweet.

-- Anonymous, June 28, 2001

What's not RL?

-- Anonymous, June 29, 2001

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