Morning, ladies.

Last night, Chris conceded that even though he doesn't really adore Royal Danish, he is actually pretty ambivalent, and his ambivalence about our sliver pattern outweighs his dislike. PRAISES!!!

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Answers

Oh, he'll grow to love it. Did y'all ever go look at more??

Okay, only TWO people have answered my call to arms on the notify. Slackers!

T - did anyone ever email you with password opinions?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Praises indeed. And since he loves the china, maybe you can find a crystal that you can pretend to be ambivalent about and make him feel it's all even.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

And you know, a silver pattern really is something that keeps on giving. My mother is getting two new place settings from my grandmother for my parent's 25th anniversary.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Oh, our crystal was a snap - both our mothers have Lismore by Waterford.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

No password opinions, by the way.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I think I'm more sleepy today than I was yesterday. I'm in a walking coma.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Hee. I hear you. I was going to try to make morning spinning. No go. But I am going to spinning tonight. And I did some weight training and 25 minutes on the elliptical last night.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

And I asked my mother what her silver pattern is, anyway. Chantilly.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I knew it! She seems like she'd be a Chantilly girl.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Did you talk to your parents about your site?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Nope. I don't think I am going to bring it up if they don't.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

A friend of ours (a good friend of Chris', and Courtney's boyfriend) is leaving for Pakistan this weekend. I can't see that it's the best time for him to go.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

oooh, is Courtney freakign out?

I can't believe I missed Lucinda last night. Everyone said it was amazing

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I'm so sad for you. She was amazing. But I won't rub it in.

That is kind of scary.

Damn Amazon.com and their free shipping. Just ordered the Houston Jr. League cookbook, All Souls, and Four Blondes.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Hey, do either of y'all know or remember that chicken fried rice web address? Rudergirl said they were going to post photos from teh wedding. Hehehehehehee.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I can't believe you made me read through her archives.

http://www.homestead.com/chiknfriedrice/home.html but it isn't working.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Damn, I wanna see pictures!

T - I liked your post on the gross pam eye thread. I could tell it was taking everything you had to not say You Dumb Idiot

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

She'll really be the dumb idiot if she listens to that hippie crap herbal advice. I'm all for herbal crap, but not if it involves poking herbs in my eyes.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I tried to read the squeezing advice and couldn't. Lord.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

That's the thing - she's gotten some really, really bad advice.

I just don't want her to blind herself. Then she'd be all, "Oh, Eric, I'm a one-eyed freak! Please let me put my head in your lap and you can call me 'pretty princess' and oh, I'm just so pitiful!" And we can't have that, now can we?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Hee!

I posted some advice, too. Seriously, when there is pus oozing, I'd go to a medical professional, no matter the cost.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

WHY would you squeeze your eye? How dumb can you be?

And how many times can you say you're hideous?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

As many times as it takes until you get a satisfactory "Oh, Pam, you could never be hideous" response from your cult.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Pander - I mean, Pamie - really is laying it on thick.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

$10 bucks says that Stee's next entry is all about Pamie's eye anguish.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I can't wait for this day to be over so I can pay my bills and sleep sleep sleep.

You know, charging drinks to the room is a dangerous, dangerous thing.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I would imagine it is dangerous.

I gave Sara a blank check for my share of the room - Does she know how much it was?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

They're mailing the recpt. But it's probably like 150? Well, plus tax.

I wish I had taken more photos. I barely even took any of the hotel and none of the pool. Poopy.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

When are you going to write your Vegas entry, Miss Merrill?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Today. I'll post it tonight. I'm getting my pics back today. Yippee!! I dont' even know how to start it!

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I dare you to post pics with Eric, with his face blacked out, and a note that "I'd show you The Boy, but it would hurt his ex's FEEEEEEELINGS."

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

And her hideous little eyes would burn with rage if she saw them."

Actually, I'm thinking of writing a thing on Exes, because Melissa had an interesting episode recently and it would be about that, but clearly, really, about Pam.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Nice. I so, so think you should. There's only so much tip-toeing you can be expected to do.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

The Vegas roundup is hard to write without mentioning Eric, I must say.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Have y'all read the makeup v. no makeup in 3wa?

Clearly a lot of those women have never been to Sephora.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

You should post that as your response.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Hee. I should have. I already posted, tho.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I put it in mine.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Who was it that said the thing about the love/hate relationship and what was it that they were loving haing?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

The going down feeling on the Big Shot? I said that. Hee. Now I'm laughing.

Teri, we were talking about the sensation of being shot up, and then the stomach dropping feeling when you get dropped down. And I said "I have a love/hate relationship with that feeling. I love it- but, I hate it."

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

And I quite craftily included the things I did say to my mom about what I've been doing lately in my new entry. So it's very clear any lies to them about Vegas are strictly omission.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Yes! That's right. I wanted to make sure I included that. That was great.

Dude, how is it that I've forgotten so much? Did I use all my brain cells tryng to add during blackjack?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

That's a good entry. Maybe writing them knowing that your mother will read them will be therapeutic, in an abstract way.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Like, here are all the things I would say to you about my life if we had a good relationship? That's how I'm approaching it, anyway.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Exactly. Maybe she'll come to understand - maybe not accept, but understand - that you're a normal, nice person who happens to be of a different faith.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

When I make mixes they're usually like 3 artists. Hardly a mix, but you know. It's funny because you put the 2 Greta Gaines songs I really don't much like.

You mean you left the part out about "checking out the room."

See, how am I supposed to write about the gimp shower? It's only funny because Eric was so repulsed by it.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Really? Interesting.

You could say "my roommate." Or The Boy. Ask Eric if he thinks it's okay for you to tell Vegas anecdotes that include him(which is different from the Controversy Entry entirely, since it's not talking about feelings, just relating a funny story)- maybe if you have him preview it.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Oh, and Eric sent me a cute thank you i-card.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Come on. Are you supposed to leave out all references to Eric from here on out? Like, if in the far-off future, you marry him, can you give folks a little bit of information about who you're marrying?

You could always put the part about the gimp shower in your notify. You could even add a disclaimer - "The boy thought the shower was funny, blah blah... And if you happen to know The Boy, my sincerest apologies if this hurts your feelings, but you shouldn't be receiving these notify list updates in the first place, so suck it up."

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I think you have to write about the gimp shower. And how Falafel and I should've been stuck with it because he, after all, was the gimp.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

He is going to preview it, at my suggestion. Because it's really impossible to not mention him at all.

I've gotten a couple more responses, but still none from the 3 mystery email addresses. Do you think I should say something again and maybe like hint at why?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

But what would you say? "I'm just wondering if any of you on this list don't know me and are forwarding info to the Boy's ex?" I think leave it be.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I think you should email the three mystery addresses seperately. Like, "Hi, I noticed you're on my notify list. You're one of the few people I don't know in real life (undersell yourself) and I was wondering if you could dop me a quick email with a brief introduction. Many thanks!"

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Yeah, emailing those three is good. I was also just thinking of saying like - thanks for those of you who responded, but I starting thinking maybe y'all had no idea what I mean or was looking for or something. Because maybe that's why, you know?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I would just email those three. Otherwise, it does look like you're looking for something.

This is interesting: http://www.marigoldzine.com/lives/NS/

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

How, exactly, is pam brave? Seriously. If there was no Stee, then maybe I'd concede to her braveness. But she's not even doing the exact thing that drove her to want space.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

She's not brave, AT ALL. She certainly hasn't made any moves to do anything on her own. From what I can tell, she's pretty dependent on Stee and Ray and her cult. For everything - from birthday presents to petty compliments.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

What was that (exact thing)?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Huh?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

"But she's not even doing the exact thing that drove her to want space."

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Oh, be independent. Be on her own.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

At one point, she blathered about how she needed to learn how to be by herself. Whatever.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Ah, right. Whatever indeed. So independent that she has to lie to someone that she loves them in order to feel good about herself.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Yes, she really stands on her own 2 feet. Because I guess when Eric originally moved out, it was just a "break." that's why he found a sublet, not an apartment.

But I think her hooking up with Stee 3 days later sort of shot that plan to hell. (Luckily for me, though, I guess)

I'm glad she's psycho as it makes me so much more normal.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

It was only three days later? Did Eric tell you that? It seems clear that something was brewing with Stee for a long time.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Yeah, I don't doubt there was some serious flirtation there. Or that Pam thought she could have Eric and Stee by waiting to hook up with Stee until the break.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

The whole "we were on a break!" argument, I gather.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

As far as Eric knows, she hooked up with Stee 3 days later. I don't think pam physically hooked up with Stee while ERic was still living there. She was definitely Jimmy Cartering though.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

And you would think Pam watches enough TV to know that argument didn't fly.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Gross. Now I'm picturing Pam the Slob and Greasy Stee hooking up. I hope they washed their hair first, at least.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I wasn't going to type this, but Teri, you're responsible for it entering my head. Crustiest. Sheets. Ever.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Oh my god. That is an impure thought if I ever heard one.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Seriously, Joh, does Eric ever talk about what it was like to live in such squalor? Does he keep his place neat?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

He's pretty neat except he's horrible with the leaving the wet towel where ever. That makes me a bit crazy.

From what I gathered, he did everything in their place in Austin. I think the LA place was also a reflection of the state of their relationship, and well, Ray.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

See, now I'm re-reading the first LA entries she wrote, and she makes it sound like a)she cleaned all the time, every time she had too much coffee and b)she bought all the cleaning products and used them.

But why am I surprised that she is misrepresentin'?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Joh, where's the entry where Eric leaves town and she realizes that she'll actually have t empty the cat litter pan?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

uh, back in July or Aug.?

Maybe she did when they first got there, but that clearly stopped when Christmas rolled around.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I finally found the pictures. Her vanity! My eyes!

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

http://www.pamie.com/July00/24July00.shtml

God, she's lazy. And whiny. Seriously, how can people find her endearing?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

H - you'd never seen the squalor photos?

I got my pics back from Vegas. Why did I take liek NONE. Seriously? Not one of the 3 of us, or even one with either of y'all. But there are 2 really cutes ones of you and Falafel, H.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I think I took like two pictures the whole weekend. During the past year, I've slacked on picture-taking as a whole.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Falafel took 4- 2 of which are just me. Oh well.

I had seen the squalor photos but hadn't really looked at them.

I like this apt. building:

http://www.springstreet.com/apartments/fyp/search/brochure/brochure.jh tml?pid=362748&cPointer=1&tc=flpn

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

That looks pretty big for 750. Where is it?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

It's really close to Sunset and Vine. And it has a fitness center, indoor pool, balconies, and allows cats.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Perfect! That's Hollywood, right?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Yep. And it's not too bad getting to school from there, either. I did the 'contact the management' thing, but we'll see.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

That's not far from Eric, either.

Why are people telling pam it's allergies or a spider bite? She said she got it after using old mascara. HelLO?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

You're reading Squishy, remember?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

oh, right.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Heh. Not that I care that much, but I emphasized again- she needs to drag her ass to a doctor.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

And not an optometrist at the mall. For heaven's sake, already.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Lord. I wouldn't want to get gangrene in my eyelid. Or anything else- even uninsured, there's no way I'd be trying herbal remedies.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I think your original suggestion of going to a pharmacist was the best. If it doesn't improve, go to the doctor. Simple.

Wait. Did y'all know that the wooden car was really a boat?

What are the must tell stories?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I know! I even told her to ask AB's friend. If I was uninsured, the first person I'd talk to would be a pharamicist.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Your gimpy shower is a good one. Those awful brides are a good one, too.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I'd say our Peruvian cab driver with his Maxim jokes, but you weren't there for that.

The Fake ID bust and Nick the boss, for sure.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Who was the tackiest bride?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Lin Chao's advice is cracking me up. "Probably you need to try to make him feel like a part of wedding plan, but you be sneaky and just let him decide simple thing, like what kind of shoelaces he want on shoes" indeed.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Taht LIn Chao thing is brilliant. Okay, girls, I'm off. Look for my Vegas recap later!

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

T, my new fave URL: http://www.starchefs.com/

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

Oh - I've seen that! I LOVE their recipes!

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

I need to stop looking at food. Must go to spinning tonight. I think I'll pick up some cheap sushi for dinner at Shino Express. I can get a spicy yellowtail roll and some tuna nigiri for $6 or so.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001