has been able to attract players for you.Craig Bellamy from ac-inter-coventry! Now the papers are suggesting Kluivert!!!!!!!!!! Are they for real? Simple fact is another top club will have him ie not you or us for that matter.Why not send wadsworth to south america with an open cheque book again,please please please.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Answers

Erm, I think you'll find that you have about as many South Americans as we have. Do you know, I couldn't tell you who your equivalent to Wadsworth is. Probably cos I'm only interested in Newcastle.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

yeah but he might end up in Honduras, and then we'd be a real laughing stock

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

hey superkev, your just a geordie wannabe. That's why u always come on newcastle boards, and read articles about us in the paper.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

'Simple fact is another top club will have him ie not you or us for that matter' You said Sick Kunt.

Whats this then an esteem problem?

eg. An iteration along the lines of: if we cant have them then I'll tell my personal obsession they cant have them - hey perhaps then if I say it enough times it might not happen, Hey, Ill keep on saying it then.

P.S. Have nightmares Mackem, because Newcastle United have a long tradition of spending big under this board pal.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Geordie wannabe?????????????????? I could never be an arrogant twat like lots of newcastle fans seem to be.The reason i frequent your sites is i suppose a case of know your enemy!Keep your friends close blah blah blah.It also seems to me that this board is frequented with geordie wannabes in so far as a hell of a lot of people on here dont even live in the area! I think its scientific as in distance x non match attendees= more geordie pride. geordie pride = A greatly increased love for the area despite living miles away! geordie wannabes hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Whereas Kev you don't support your local side, you have the desire just to be different and go further afield. You must have lots of Man U supporting friends with similar ethos.

The internet is global, the majority of people on here have little other means of keeping in touch with home, it is obvious that it will attract distant people. See also RTG posters like the Brazilian idiot, or closer to home that nice Herts guy, or the Dutch guy, I hope you haven't been on RTG saying the same to them. Or would that smack of being consistent.

It may well be the same consistency that I se if I wander over to RTG and see in one thread a great mocking of Newcastle and Boro trying to invest in expensive players. The next thread will have great gnashing of teeth at the lack of money being spent by SAFC.

It may be the consistency of mocking our board for spendinh money on players but never questioning where all the supporters money at Sunderland goes ?

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Just who are the Mackems playing in Yewerup anyway Sewpah?

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

same as it ever was

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Superkev, do you have what is normally known as a life?

I would never dream of going on that RTG thingy whatever it is, and posting some crap intended to annoy the Mackems. What is the point?

Seriously though Superkev, if Phillips was sold to Arsenal a few weeks ago I can guarantee SAFC would be linked with Craig Bellamy at the moment, oh hang on, £4m, that prices you out of the market a bit doesn't it?

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

You mean there is still a chance Arsenal could avoid this embarrassment for us Paul? C'mon Arsenal, c'mon ...............

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Macbeth how dare you compare me to a manure fan. you are/were the one crossing the boundray. When you first become a badger you lived in DURHAM. . You cannot have an argument with that. Oh and dont give me the durham bishops in the 15th century shite either.The simple fact is that GATESHEAD actually have a football team and you as i did deserted them.At the risk of sounding like a new bred mag,ie a wanker,at least i am in the area. You have left.Do you not think that this area could do with your undoubted skills? If you are to be a representative for nufc i suggest that you learn some diplomacy . altough showing the attributes of a wanker is what people expect from newcastle now! Keep picking on Stevenage will you!?

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

Sewpah,

Arrogant twat? Mate the only one I see acting like a class A tool is you. A wanker is a new mag? Tell that to Ciara who travels from the US to attend toon games. Or me who flies to Sydney from Brisbane to watch important matches on TV for gods sake just to be with other mags. I live nowhere near the Toon but have been a mag since the mid 80's, does that make me a wanker or a geordie wannabe too?

GET THE F**K DOWN OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. TOSSER.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

superkev, so what you're basically trying to say, behind all the bad language, is that you don't have a right to support a team if you weren't born / brought up / live in the club's area?

If someone had Gateshead born parents but was born and bred in Manchester, does this mean they have no right to support Gateshead, even if they want to? Location has nowt to do with it. Some of the most loyal fans I know don't live local, and I know a fair few who are only bothered when we're doing well that live locally.

Also, you said, "Now the papers are suggesting Kluivert!!!!!!!!!! Are they for real? "

It's better than not being linked with them at all.

Sewpah, you've succeeded, you've made a few people on here a tad annoyed. Although I still find this inferiority complex you Mackems have with us highly amusing.

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

It's giving me a good laugh for the evening. :-)

-- Anonymous, June 24, 2001

From my bedroom window at home I could see the Newcastle ground. As the magpie flies it is probably 3 miles to St James Park. My birth certificate says born in Blaydon. To everyone in the real world it woudl be exceptional if I didn't support Newcastle. And as we have discussed before school emphasised that too.

Trying to say I bypassed Gateshead is nonsense. I also bypassed Whickham, Dunston Fed, Redheugh boys, etc. Really I didn't though. When I was too young to go to Newcastle on my own I went to Whickham every week. Main team one week, juniors next. Even tied Ray Hudsons boots for him one arctic day when they played on snow and won 15-0 against some poor unfortunate team. I don't know your background but if you were born and raised in Whickham then the natural place to go and watch football is Newcastle, if only because of the ease of transport. To go elsewhere is strange, and more akin to the famed Man U supporters than to a sticking with your local side.

Does living in a county mean you have to support a team in that county ? It's an awful long way for me to have to go to Darlington.

Yes my skills may well be needed on Tyneside, nobody wanted them though. I spent a year working for NEI but they were clearly going bust and my mortgage needed paid.

There is hardly anyone on here who is currently resident in the north east. If you live near your team then there is always someone to chat to about them. Swift can't really chat to anyone in Spain, the Aussie guys, Ciara, me, Bill in Aberdeen, the London lot, this site is for them. They use it as their surrogate local pub to come and chat about Newcastle and about football in general. There have been 9 different threads on here about the Intertoto cup, some of them have similar themes but the things that stands out is that 5 of them have been started by Sunderland supporters. You must be able to see why we wonder at your motivations sometime.

Yes I need to learn diplomacy skills, but don't we all. If I was a guest in someone's house and pissed on the carpet I may get a reply from my host that I didn't like.

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

I think you will find that the 'famed man u supporters' are labeled as gloryhunters.What glory is there in following sunderland? If there is some i've managed to miss it! Ans as for your local team stuff,sid james park is about 5 miles and the ssol is about 13. not a great deal of difference is there.Oh and i assume all newcastle fans live in the byker wall do they? That boro mags flag in the gallowgate end must just be a hoax then!? Are fans that are not from newcastle not welcome then. what about wearside mags? By the way, both of our crowds have doubled + but yours could be branded gloryhunters as you had your purple patch under keegan/hall. where as our new fans are merely attracted by our new stadium and the hope of future success,which i admit is not very likely as we are too far behind the elite. as are you lot believe it or not.Cue now the ambition cries. Well what really is 'ambition',it's mine to win the lottery and get a top class bird like kirsty gallacher but it is not going to happen! Still i harbour the' ambition 'for it to happen.

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

Good on yer sk - I hope you get your wish, and get to sleep with that nice Kevinirsty Gallagher.
Lots of good sense in your last post - in particular the major problems both our teams now have in attempting to move into the top bracket.

Hopefully you will now understand why we are so frustrated - we had it in our grasp and blew it. However, I have to agree with your assessment - given the way the game has moved (retrograde imo) it's now a real long haul back to that level, and requires top management and a very large and loyal fan base to bring it off.
We both have the latter - the real question is does either Club have the former?

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

Well to be honest i do not want to get into a slagging session of bobby robson. But i am a great peter reid fan and have every confidence in his abilities.However i think the years of bad management and neglect have cost us the chance of ever catching up.Your comment about the fan base .I would be interested to see what would happen if one of us were relegated.

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

We averaged over 50,000 last season an increase of 38% over the previous year, despite two years of finishing 14th. Probably only attracted by the bigger stadium, or maybe they're just after the glory of our successes ?

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

Good point although two cup finals and a semi are the types of things that attract fans.And in 1997 we had a 200 % increase all attracted to our relegation! Lies ,damned lies and statistics.Whatever the reasons are i think that the new ones would be the 1st off if the good?? ship nufc went down.

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

This stuff about fans is fascinating because it makes certain assumptions about the make up of the crowd. When Newcastle's average was 30,000 it didn't mean that it was the same 30,000 every week - quite the reverse in fact. I wouldn't mind betting that during the course of a season anything up to 100,000 "different" fans attended the games. Since the coming of the all season ticket stadium the number of people who attend matches has probably reduced rather than increased. How many "floating" supporters are there now.

I don't know how statistics for this could be compiled but it would be very interesting to find out if the Keegan years and since, far from seeing an increase in the number fo different fans attending SJP, has actually seen a reduction.

-- Anonymous, June 25, 2001

Without a doubt there is less. You only have to look at the age profile. We'll eventually turn into the Conservative party and have no supporter under 65, or whatever it is.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

..... now there's the most frightening suggestion yet! Thanks for that Macbeth. ;-{)

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

If that is the case Mac, there are some sorry parents out there if they cannot indoctrinate their kids in the way of the mag. (Or mebbees their just pissed off that they cannot get a decent drink at the match)

Just me again is it?

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001

no Tony, my priority for the fans committee is to get kids back in the ground.

We should be matching, or bettering Sunderlands ticket pricing which has an u-22 season ticket for 220, u-16 for £133 and u-11 for £95, not counting all the ones they give away to anybody who asks nicely. (A juvenile season ticket for Newcastle is £240.)

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2001