6-13-01

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Hannah - I got your email this morning. I bet that was a tough one to get through. I think it's good that they're going to help you. And it doesn't seem like they're going to put any outright conditions on it. Maybe more subtle ones. Because he refrenced drinking, do you think that was his way of saying that he reads your journal??

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

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I think they are going to pay without conditions. The $6000 at least. I have no idea. My parents have thought I was an alcoholic since high school. They always think I look drunk in pictures and often sound drunk on the phone, even when I'm not.

Other good news. I fit into my old Diesel jeans that I didn't fit into last January this morning.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


That's definitely a good thing.

I'm confused about the lying part. They don't believe that you're going to Utah for a wedding, or they don't believe that that's all you're going to do out there? I'm confused.

I'm guessing they don't know abotu Vegas.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


So then you'll be able to get full aid for grad school? Well, that's very good.

Being able to wear old jeans (especially old sexy jeans) is better than any scale.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


They haven't said if they know about Vegas. I'm guessing they think I'm lying about going to Utah and going to Vegas instead, or something. I don't know.

I just wish the innertube of fat wasn't still lapping above the waistband, though.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


oooh, that's the worst! When the pants look good because they just squished it all up into your midriff.

When's the Utah wedding?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001



The third of July. Weekend after Vegas.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh, and "I am pamie.com"? Get over yourself.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Wait - wha? Where did she say that?

Are you still planning on going to Houston this weekend?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


The last sentence plus all her I am a dot com blabber. Not an exact quote. But still.

Nope.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I know. She's such a.... blah.

I found a new journal. She misspells y'all, but whatever. I sort of like her.

http://www.geocities.com/ranchofritalovely/index.html

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001



Hmm. I'm not sure what I think of her. I wish she was funnier.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Let's talk about purses.

My Kate Spade will turn two this August. I'm starting to realize that she looks a little worse for the wear. I have two Coach bags - one is a little red leather and red tweed bag that's great for fall. The other is a medium sized brown leather bag that I only use when I'm wearing brown shoes. I'm really not crazy about the Coach black leather bags.

What's a girl to do? Should I buy another Kate Spade? Are they passee? I'd LOVE a JP Tod bag, but they're expensive as all get out.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


passe, I mean.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Hmm, I hope not, as mine isn't even a year old. It's just great because you can carry it all year.

I only read 2 of Rita's entries. I couldn't get to her archives.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I love that I can carry my bag with everything. I may buy a smaller one, though. The one that zips across the top. I'll stick with the black, and I'll have my larger bag. I think it's time for something smaller, though, that I can enjoy before I'm saddled with a baby bag.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Good plan. Or you know, just get a Vera Bradley.

Hey - where did Susan decide to go to school?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Ha!

Mississippi State. If she's miserable, she'll transfer to UGA. Where, coincidentally, Mark will be. It should be interesting. She's going to run Cross Country for MSU, though, and they have a brand new equestrian center, so we'll see.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Ooh, I would love a JP Tod, too.

I'm trying to get away from labels in general. That said, and I know how I loathed the duck in high school, some of the new Dooney and Bourke bags are precious. I am loving the Alto tassel bag.

http://www.dooneyandbourke.com/flash/catalogue/cat_bags_alto.html

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Yes, the new duck bags aren't bad.

And Jane will be tehre, so hopefully she'll enjoy it. Are she and Mark together or no?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


here's what I'm writing my dad: Dad, I appreciate this.

And I KNOW I've been completely irresponsible with my finances and am ill-prepared for grad school. I wish I had another year to prepare, but I don't. The way I handle money is the way I've always handled it, and I've never really learned. Sometimes I think if I had stayed in college for four years- if I hadn't had to decide so late in the third year that I was going to be graduating early- I could've had the time to be better prepared for the real world. If I had a whole year to know I had to start looking for a job, and planning my life after college, I would've done a lot of things differently. But as it is, things have been haphazard and I've wound up where I am now.

But I honestly, honestly believe that grad school is probably the best thing I can do for myself. You and Mom both know as well as I do I'm floundering here in Boston. I make enough money to live month to month, but there's nothing here for me, my future. I need the two years in school, with the discipline, and the time to plan beyond that. I need more time to grow up, and more education both in and out of the classroom.

Thank you again for your help. It really does mean a lot to me. Can you let me know what exactly you are doing? I need to send a copy of the clearance letter from the federal loan people to USC as soon as I can. I have a letter from USC and I'm supposed to include a copy with it. Thanks.

what do y'all think?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


They're together. It's been like, three years or something. Crazy.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Sometimes I think if I had stayed in college for four years- if I hadn't had to decide so late in the third year that I was going to be graduating early- I could've had the time to be better prepared for the real world. If I had a whole year to know I had to start looking for a job, and planning my life after college, I would've done a lot of things differently. But as it is, things have been haphazard and I've wound up where I am now.

Do you think they might take that the wrong way? Like, they might interperet that as you passing the blame for your situation off on them?

Maybe you could say something like, "Sometimes I think that if I hadn't decided to graduate early so late in my third year of college, I would have had the time to prepare myself for the real world, including managing my finances and looking for a job where I could really flourish. I know I would have done things differently; regardless, I can only move forward from here."

Then you can move into the part where you outline why you think graduate school will b a good move towards your future as a stable, productive adult.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I kind of want them to think about the impact they had there.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I think it's good, and I think you were good to ignore the drinking part.

Maybe assure him that you do love and trust him?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


The latest (his reply and my response): >OK, I paid off the one loan already--not the MIT loan, >but the other one. Gone, they even gave me a discount >(you owed over 3000$ on a loan that was originally >2650 +/-; I paid 27xx or so.) You can contact them for >payoff info/letter/etc. > >I am speaking with Evelyn. She is going to see what >she can do and I will pay that one off. > >But I have to throw in one invocation of perhaps rule >4 (the Hannah rewriting history rule). I remember >going out to the U. You acted like you had a year and >a half left to go in college. It didn't seem right and >we talked to that counselor who said "nope, you are >almost done." Now I don't call that pressure to >graduate early... I might call it Hannah not planning >ahead, but what difference would it have made? You >would have hung out in Utah for another year and >focused on career goals, budgeting, life and work >skills? I call for rule 2 at this point. > >I'll let you know when MIT is paid off, but you can >prusue the other one now.

Thank you. They said it would take 5 days to process. I'll keep you posted.

I was asked to TA the screenwriting class I had taken that year, and I could've picked up a philosophy minor. But that's not the point. I know it's my fault- I wasn't communicative at all with y'all about any of that. And I don't know that just because if I could do it over now, knowing what I know now, means I actually would have. I don't know that I would've completely matured, but I know I would've had a year to think about it, knowing in a year I'd be out of school, rather than a few months.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Good good!

What was rule number 2 again?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I think it's "Hannah always lies."

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Ah. Have you assured them of your honesty? Maybe you could tell them that you want to be honest with them, but they'll have to accept that they might not always like/approve of what the truth is.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

It'll take more than that. I'm just going to take it one day at a time, with them.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh, y'all, I ate too much salt today. My fingers are puffy. Rings are tight. What to do?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Water? I'm not sure.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I'm drinking a lot of water. Maybe the new water will flush the salt- retained water out?

It was worth it, though. French onion soup from La Madeleline is always worth it.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Yes, drink a lot of water. But no so much so fast that you drown yourself.

I think my hair is too long. But I just got it cut last month. Oh well. It's really long. Like Faith Hill before her awful cut long, but not stringy.

I can't tell you guys how forward I'm looking to just swimming and being outside and drinking frozen drinks.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Oh, La Madeleine. T, why must you always remind me of foods I cannot have? Why?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Do you like their tomato-basil soup? What about their caesar dressing?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

So, cut it again!

I have a highlights appointment tomorrow. And, I'm forking out the dough to have my nails done by a woman at that salon, rather than the nail sweatshop where I usually go. How do you say "Squoval" in Vietnamese, y'all?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I am getting my haircut at some point before I leave- a farewell to James. But no more highlights. Cannot afford them.

I'm thinking about getting a pedicure in Vegas, though. I need some spoiling.

I really only love their French Onion soup. And their croissants.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I can't afford to. I'll just have to wait until I need to go again. Like I just went on Memorial Day weekend.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

So sad. Someday we will be wealthy women with standing hair appointments.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

If the cut was that recent, can't you go back and say, "Yo! Can we go shorter?"

I don't know what I want to do with mine - my next cut is in July. I have these long layer things, and I think I want to have my hair all one length, but I don't know if my hair is too thick for that. I do need a good smoother - as my hair gets wavier, it also gets frizzier. It used to be so silky and soft.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I am going to have to grow out my bangs. Oh well. I'm trying to resolve myself to ponytail every day student hair.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

You can do it.

Hannah, I'll bring a picture of me with my short, short hair to Vegas. It was a bitch to gorw it out, but it was with it. And now, I can barely remember the trauma.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I am going to scan in some pictures someday. I once had very, very short hair. It was bad.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I don't know. I love my hair long but I just think it's TOO long at this point. I can wait it out till the end of July or so. Then I'll just chop off like 4 inches.

I get it colored about once every 4 months. I won't do it again until the Fall.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I didn't have enough Zatarain's and chicken left over to be a satisfying lunch. I think I have another tamale left in the freezer, though. I think I'm going to eat that in an hour or so and have a light dinner.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I hate it when people don't stick up for themselves. Sara has got to be the biggest doormat I've ever met in my life.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

What?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

What happened?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

You can't just leave us hanging.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

She just lets her boss walk all over her. If she stood up to him, they'd have a much better relationship. And she's gotten better, but lord.

Or like, the guys at the plant (where we print the catalog) make sexist comments like - Women are always changing their mind - or something when she wants to fix the color and she takes it. And then acts like it's because she's not doing her job right. It makes me CRAZY. Or like, she lets her landlord totally break the law (enter her apt. without notice ALL the time) and she just takes it. It makes me NUTS.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


That's ridiculous. But what can you do? I mean, you can't make someone stand up for themselves. It's contradictory.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I know. But sometimes it's all I can do not scream at her - Why can't you stand up for yourself!!!! Because she bitches to me about it and I want to just smack her. It's hard to be empathetic.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Maybe say something like "Don't you think if you told (whatever) to your boss it would be more effective than just letting it go?"?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh yeah. And I've suggested talking to the liason at the plant (who's a WOMAN for crying out loud) but she just shrugs and is like - I know.. It's just that it makes me feel.... Then DO something about it. Lord. I have little tolerance for that kind of shit.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Just tell her you feel bad that she's upset, but you're having a hard time understanding why she isn't doing anything about it, if it upsets her that much.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I know. I just had to vent.

It's also just a pattern in her life. And then she acts mopey and miserable. You're in control of your Life. Learn it. Live it.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I'm booooooooooored.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

go read bluekitten.diaryland.com if you want to feel sorry for someone.

anything exciting on 3wa chat? I wish you could log in as another name and be liek - Stee loves pam!

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I'm bored, but I have work to do. Must keep my peskiest client, and all. Hate.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Wait- she's an escort?

Heh. That would be funny. But none of the pam/stee loyalists would believe it.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


She's a 19 year old LDS girl who evidently just moved out of her house. Her parents are divorced, her dad died back in the fall and she sleeps around and writes about it. Plus, it sounds like she does a lot of drugs. She also used to date this guy: ewige.diaryland.com who lives in Columbus, but I'm not sure where.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Class-ay.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Yes, but she should keep you from getting bored.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh, I'm very sucked in. Plus I know Salt Lake.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

How bizarre. Her dad overdosed? I can't find her archives - I'd ove to start from the beginning.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I"ve been reading her off and on since last Summer. She mostly makes me pretty sad.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

"I wish I was someone else watching me right now.

I wish I was watching me and writing about me.

Falling in love with me from across the room.

The way I furrow my brow as I write.

The was I tuck my hair behind my ears just to have it fall back into my face moments later.

The way I sigh after an intense sentence."

She'd make me sadder if I didn't find this so- I don't know.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


It's sad - she's trashy, but she's not really a train wreck as she's fully aware of what she'd doing. How old is she?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

She's 18 or 19. Maybe 20. Oh, she's clearly conceited in that low self-esteem kind of way. I wonder how much of it is true. She sure does sleep around a lot.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Is it wrong that I hate her for whining about being fat at 110 lbs?

No. It is not.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


So sad.

I had to hang up on my mother today - she's spinning out of control. I said, "Mother. I will call you back when you've calmed down. Goodbye."

I called back about 15 minutes later and she was just fine, talking about champagne flutes. So odd.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I know! I mean, if she was a midget, maybe I'd have some pity. God, I can't imagine being 110 pounds.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Out of control over the wedding, or something else?

I haven't heard from my mother once in all of this mess. I think she resents that the Lord! told her to help me.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Have you made any decisions about the photog?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

MERCY! You haven't talked to her at all?

About this weekend - she told me that we would be staying at my grandmother's house in Metairie. I asked why, and she wigged out.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


We're meeting with two protographers this weekend. I imagine we'll have to make a decision then. We're meeting with the priest on Sunday.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Goodness. That's weird.

Nope. But she has been in Dallas, so that's our 'excuse'.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Why are you staying in Meterie? Is Chris able to go with you?

So you're mom's mad at the LORD, not at you.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Exactly. That's what Hadley said, too. Heh.

Maybe the Lord! wants me to be out there with that Mormon kid after all.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


The trial in Valdosta was postponed, so Chris is able to go. He's frazzled, though. He'll have next weekend off, though, and the next we go to Florida. He's just sick of travelling - last week, he was in five states in one day (NJ, CT, PA, NY, MA).

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I had to stop reading bluekitten. She's just slept with too many men in too short of a time for me to take.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Yeah, in her recent one she mentions something about the one guy to be the first to count on her toes. Now, I'm the last person in teh world to throw stones in that arena, but uh, I wasn't 19 when I got to double digits.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

So that's what the counting on her toes thing meant. I'm so naive, seriously.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh, sweet sweet T.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Hee. Exactly. I mean, I have been around the block plenty, but not by 19. And not in such a short time period. And not with a tattoo artist without a condom.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

oh, I missed that one. And she's all sad that the MARRIED bouncer won't call her.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Don't forget her affair with her boss.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Silly. He's having the marriage annulled. Because that's such an easy thing to do.

I am SO niave, y'all. All I know is that my number is the same as Chris', and that makes me happy.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


My number is higher than Falafel's. But we don't talk about that.

When Ryan and his friend got married for kicks in Vegas it took FOREVER to annul. A real marriage- sweet, dumb girl.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


The whole "marriage for kicks" thing really confuses me. From what I understand, though, annullments are a bitch.

I like having the same number, especially seeing how he's 30 and all.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Ryan is just- Ryan. It would confuse me if it was anyone else, but it's a very Ryan thing to do.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh, my number isn't even close to Eric's. It took me awhile before I even wanted to ask. But it's lower than I'd pysched myself up to hear, so I'm okay with it.

And really, on a ratio basis we're pretty close. (Your number of partners divided by the number of years you've been having sex, minus the number of years in relationships).

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Wait. so it's N/(Total years - rel. years) = number

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I just ignore the numbers. Mine doesn't seem representative, really. It seems like a big can of worms to even discuss.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Huh?

Chris and I both started out at the same age. No. I was a freshman; he was a sophomore.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Yeah, I got that equation from a novel. It's silly and never an accurate portrayal. Eric doesn't know my number. He just knows it's between 10 and 20 and that's all he'll ever know.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I've put my number in the vault.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I guess my number's rather unimportant now, unless it goes up. Which it certainly won't.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I don't wanna work out. But alas, I must.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Good point, T.

I think I may walk home. Or not. Spinning tomorrow morning, Old 97s tomorrow night.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Walking home sounds nice.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Yeah, but it's over 3 miles. I don't think I will.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Tomorrow's a busy day then!

And tomorrow also marks the official countdown to Vegas and our birthdays!!!

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


Could you walk part way, and then take the train the rest of the way home?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I could. The question is, will I. We'll see.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

I'm off to the gym. Joyous. Sara just gave me a picture of Eric and I from when he was here the first time. Too bad I look like ASS in it.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

Oh, please. I'm sure you look beautiful.

Do you have any pictures?

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001


I hate being the last one here every day. Oh well. Now that my boss has moved to my floor, I really have no choice.

-- Anonymous, June 13, 2001

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