Hurricane Andrew Disaster huge unreported death tollgreenspun.com : LUSENET : Grassroots Information Coordination Center (GICC) : One Thread
The article noted below is a wake up call about what happens in the event of a major disaster. No real assistance, hiding the warnings if there are too many people to evacuate, and a massive coverup of the number of dead by a factor of 100 or more. Citizens of California what will happen if there is a magnitude 8 earthquake on the Ricter scale on the San Andreas fault in the next five years? Will your Governor Davis be there to help you like he did in the current energy crisis or will he be looking for someone to blame? Another interesting fact is the person in charge of the Hurricane Andrew clean up efforts. None other than Andrew Card who is now Chief of Staff for George W. Janet Reno was US Prosecuting Attorney for Dade County. Look at the reward she received for keeping quiet. Do you believe that a storm that big would not be visible to the weather service soon enough to give an effective warning. On second thought, maybe they did see it but couldn't figure out where it would hit. Refrigerator trucks full of body parts. Another example of our free press.
There is a very clear message here. Prepare, stock needed supplies and try to be somewhat self sufficient if there is a disaster. If you survive the initial event, you would at least have a fighting chance to survive until things get stabilized. Also the Democrats are foolish to burn the bridges to the Republicians in Washington D C. Why should the Republicians help when the Democrats themselves did nothing to resolve the current power crisis? Is the faulty deregulation legislation being corrected? If so, it is top secret. Sensible people live and learn. Democrats consume and hope.
-- Tom (Tom@ABC.guv), June 01, 2001
You know, I have seen this account of Hurricane Andrew before around the Internet and I seriously doubt its veracity. I live in South Louisiana - a native of New Orleans - and I can tell you, hurricane warnings are broadcast for DAYS before the actual arrival of the storm. No one is caught unaware of the approaching danger. It is individual choice to remain in a flimsy building during a hurricane. The narrator of this tale is trying to pin the blame for her own stupidity on the government. If she is untruthful about one part of her story, why should we believe any part of it?
-- tee (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 01, 2001.
This story has been floating around the web for years, and it has repeatedly been proven false by people who were there. It now qualifies as an urban myth, and should be treated as such.
-- Cash (Cash@andcarry.com), June 01, 2001.
I live in Florida and you can ask anyone that was in the middle of that mess and they will tell you this story is nothing but Bull Sh@%! I don't know why anyone would write such a thing other than for the excercise of creating a good tale. Its taking on a life of its own and as hurricane season starts we will hear/see it again and again and again. Its like the when the Martians landed in Orson Well's story.
-- Taz (Tassie email@example.com), June 01, 2001.
Tne source of the Andrew post. Buyer beware.
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-- Martin Thompson (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 01, 2001.
Huge unreported death toll? How absurdly unlikely. I won't bother reading the article. Our local news feels obligated to report every single, individual drowning on the news and its repeated over and over at 5, 6, 9 and 10 pm. That's a simple accidental drowning. If it was a disaster like a hurricane, news teams from all over the nation would be on it like, st@nk on sh?t. To believe otherwise is to also be a member of the flat earth society.
-- Guy Daley (email@example.com), June 01, 2001.
I saw this in early April, some points are valid, others are unprovable, remember it's someone story. No reason to jump down on Tom, he was reporting on something that shocked him. Without people that post stories & news here or on other sites; the only news you'd get is what CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS & FOX wanted you to have. Its called Free Speach, no one says you have to believe it, but you can always investagate the stories if you want to put in the time to do so.
I have lived in SW & South Fla since 1980. When Andrew hit Homestead it all but wipe the city off the map ! The area is south of Miami, and had a huge population of illegals, migrants, regular middle and low income working people and military for the Air base.
The Warnings for Andrew & its possible direction were broadcast on the weather & news channels (as to how late I can't say) I boarded up and went about my business as I have for the other Hurricanes. In Fl, until Andrew; we had so many flase alarms, alot of people are very unprepaired for anything.
A few facts: 1) People did leave the area (that is the smarter one with the money to leave & a place to go). 2) After Andrew hit, the whole area was block off to EVERYONE by FEMA, the National Guard & Police. NO ONE WAS ALLOUD TO ENTER OR LEAVE WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION . (most roads were impassible anyway) 3) There was not electric, no water, no food and no medical help in the area, unless someone tried to store it before the storm. 4) Hundreds of BILLIONS of Dollars of damage was done. 5) What NEWS there was released at the time went only thru approved sources. 6) All housing in the area had to meet the building codes in the area. 7) It was 2 weeks before any type of outside help started to show up & do any good (even thought people all over south Florida were sending what they could to help. 8) I never investagated the Tampa deal with the USGC guy, there were so many different body counts the first 2 days it was a laugh, No one will ever know how many died. If one person died it was to many. 9) Several Insurance Companies pull out of Fl after Andrew and the ones that stayed tripled there rates. And yes a few went belly up because of Andrew.
I could go on but thats my 2¢, read whats posted if you have a interest in the subject, believe the post if you want or prove them wrong. And thank the posters that bring you the news.
-- awdragon (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 01, 2001.
"Hiding the warnings if there are too many people to evacuate."
What does this mean? When a hurricane season arrives the Media is on it like Jellow jackets and hamburger. Where are they going to hide these warnings? The system does not work that way. As a Meteorologist for near 40 years I find this is the stupidest statement I have ever heard.
My 2 cents
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