Austin Police Cite Bush Daughters

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Thursday May 31 8:15 PM ET

Austin Police Cite Bush Daughters

By NATALIE GOTT, Associated Press Writer

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Police on Thursday cited President Bush (news - web sites)'s 19-year-old twin daughters for allegedly violating state alcoholic beverage laws.

It would be the second offense for Jenna Bush and the first for her sister, Barbara.

Police accused Barbara Bush of being a minor in possession of alcohol and Jenna Bush of misrepresenting her age for allegedly trying to use false identification to buy alcohol, according to a statement from the Austin Police Department.

Both are Class C misdemeanors under the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code and carry a fine of up to $500, attendance at an alcohol awareness course, community service and 30-day driver's license suspension.

If convicted, Jenna Bush could lose her driver's license for up to 90 days because it would be a second offense, according to the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

A third person, Jesse Day-Wickham, also was cited for being a minor in possession of alcohol. An associate of the Bush family said Day-Wickham is a girlfriend of the Bush twins.

A police investigation determined that Jenna Bush allegedly ordered a margarita and was asked to produce identification proving she was 21. She showed a valid driver's license belonging to someone else, police said. She was not served.

Witnesses told police that Barbara Bush and Day-Wickham were served alcohol.

Assistant Police Chief Jimmy Chapman said the bar checked IDs, but he did not know what ID Barbara Bush and Day-Wickham used. The ID Jenna Bush allegedly used was confiscated and charges could be forthcoming, he said.

Chapman said other patrons at Chuy's Restaurant recognized Jenna Bush and told restaurant employees before the manager called 911 Tuesday night to report that minors were attempting to buy alcohol.

Chapman said Bush's daughters and Day-Wickham were very cooperative. ``I'm sure there's a certain amount of embarrassment, but nobody said anything specific like 'I'm going to be in trouble,' `` he said.

The sisters signed the citations at their lawyers' office Thursday morning.

``We sincerely regret any inconvenience this has caused the first family,'' the restaurant said in a statement released Thursday afternoon.

Just over two weeks ago, Jenna Bush pleaded no contest to charges of underage drinking. She was ordered to take alcohol counseling and perform community service.

Prosecutor John Wall said Wednesday that another citation for Jenna Bush could lead to her punishment for the underage drinking plea to be revoked. He said authorities could then seek a conviction.

A spokeswoman for first lady Laura Bush called the matter a private family issue.

``Both daughters are private citizens and this is a private family matter. We respectfully request that the media treat it as such,'' said spokeswoman Noelia Rodriguez.

Earlier Thursday, the White House asked the media to pause before pursuing more stories about the daughters' legal problems stemming from alleged underage drinking.

``I would urge all of you to very carefully think through how much you want to pursue this,'' press secretary Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) told reporters in Washington, D.C.

``I understand that there's a question of law. I've never called anybody or suggested to anybody that the coverage today is in any way inappropriate. But to go beyond that I would urge you to be very careful because any reaction of the parents is parental; it is not governmental. It is family. It's private and the American people respect that.''

Police would not say where Secret Service agents were at the time the sisters were in the popular Mexican restaurant. The Secret Service (news - web sites) wouldn't comment.

Jenna Bush's earlier no contest plea stemmed from a ticket Austin police issued while checking for minors in possession of alcohol at nightclubs April 27.

The twins are scheduled to see their parents and grandparents this weekend, for a long-planned rededication ceremony at the Camp David chapel.

Jenna Bush has an apartment in Austin, near the University of Texas where she is studying. She plans to live there for the summer. Barbara, who was visiting her sister this week, is expected to spend most of her summer in New Haven, Conn., where she attends Yale University.

-- Dumbya the dry drunk (alcoholic scandal @ first. family), June 01, 2001

Answers

Thursday May 31 11:33 PM ET

Bush Daughters Cited for Underage Drinking

By Hilary Hylton

AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - Police issued misdemeanor citations to President Bush (news - web sites)'s twin teenage daughters on Thursday for alleged underage drinking at a restaurant in Austin, Texas, earlier this week.

Jenna Bush, in her second such run-in with the law in just over a month, was cited for misrepresenting her age as she tried to buy alcohol while her sister Barbara was cited for possession of alcohol by a minor, Austin police said in a statement.

Both women are 19 while Texas law prohibits anyone under age 21 from buying or drinking alcohol.

Jenna, a student at the University of Texas, pleaded no contest earlier this month to a charge of possession of alcohol by a minor after undercover police found her drinking beer as they checked for underage drinkers in an Austin bar.

She was sentenced to eight hours of community service and a six-hour alcohol awareness course.

A third person, Jesse Day-Wickham, was also cited for possession of alcohol by a minor in the latest incident.

The manager of Chuy's Mexican restaurant in Austin called police to the premises on Tuesday evening and told them that minors had tried to buy alcohol, police said.

Jenna ordered an alcoholic drink and was asked to show identification to prove she was 21.

``Jenna Bush allegedly displayed a valid driver's license that belonged to someone else. Jenna was refused the alcohol beverage,'' the police statement said.

Witnesses told police that Barbara Bush, a Yale student, and Jesse Day-Wickham ordered alcohol and were served.

Police had already disclosed on Wednesday that the Bush twins were under investigation for alcohol-related offenses.

REPORTERS WARNED OF BACKLASH

In Washington, a White House spokesman had little to say on Thursday as he fended off questions about the president's handling of the alcohol-related incidents.

``You know what my answer will be: This is and shall remain a private family matter,'' White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said at a contentious White House news briefing.

Fleischer was asked repeatedly what Bush -- who discussed his past drinking problems during the presidential campaign -- might have said to his two daughters.

Fleischer did not take issue with the coverage to date, which has been based primarily on police reports. However, he said earlier in the day, ``I would urge all of you to very carefully think through how much you want to pursue this.''

``Do you want the American people to know that you're asking about private conversations that took place between the president of the United States and his child?'' Fleischer asked at the news briefing.

``I think the American people agree with the president that it is his purview, even as president of the United States, to have private moments with his family. That includes his two 19-year-old daughters. And like any parent raising a child, they expect the right to talk privately with their children no matter what position they hold in life,'' he said.

The White House also faced questions about whether Secret Service agents protecting the daughters had a duty to intervene when a law may be broken.

Secret Service spokesman Marc Connolly said the Bush daughters are provided with 24-hour protection. The agency would not comment on the ``private lives or the on- or off-the-record movements of our protectees,'' he said.

However, he said ``Secret Service agents are sworn federal law enforcement officials and have not and would not condone any violation of the law.''

-- Where's Kenny Starr when you need him? (the american people are just as interested in this @ as they were. in Clinton's dick), June 01, 2001.


It’s a family affair

If the Bush girls’ foibles are off-limits to the media, then let’s pledge to ignore the private lives of all politicians

If Jenna Bush's missteps shouldn't be fodder for the media, then neither should anyone else's,

By Eric Alterman MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR

May 31 — George W. Bush’s twin daughters — Jenna, a student at the University of Texas at Austin, and Barbara, a student at Yale — allegedly tried to buy alcohol illegally on Wednesday. Jenna Bush allegedly used another person’s ID card. Two weeks ago, Jenna pleaded no contest to being a minor in possession of alcohol and was sentenced to serve eight hours of community service and pay $51.25 in court costs. In recent weeks, the Enquirer, a supermarket tabloid frequently relied upon by many respectable news services for its reporting skills on the president’s family, also featured reports on alleged marijuana use by Jenna Bush and on an alleged drunken spree by Barbara Bush in Mexico.

George Bush campaigned on a pledge that the quality of his private was a measure of his ability to govern. Now he says it’s none of our business.

WHITE HOUSE spokesman Scott McClellan declined to discuss the incidents. “If it involves the daughters in their private lives, it is a family matter,” McClellan said. Nevertheless, observers were quick to point out that “family matters” have become the staple of political discussion in the United States in recent years. Moreover, President Bush shares with his daughters a history of incidents involving the illegal consumption of alcohol, including driving while intoxicated and threatening to punch his own father after another such drunken-driving incident, in which the police were not called. Bush has also admitted to hiding his own arrest history regarding drinking and driving from the nation and from his own daughters, until it was exposed by the national media.

None of our business?

May 31, 2001 — Police say President Bush’s daughters, Jenna and Barbara, tried to use someone’s ID at restaurant to purchase alcoholic beverages. NBC News correspondent Jim Cummins reports.

PRIVATE LIVES, PUBLIC INTEREST

Below are a few quotes uttered in recent memory by national commentators on incidents involving the “private life” of a president and his family.

Speaking on “Meet the Press,” an outraged William J. Bennett once complained of the “moral and intellectual disarmament” that threatens the country when its president is not “being a decent example” and “teaching kids the difference between right and wrong.” He added his own view that the lack of reaction was due to the American public having become too “complacent,” or too “prosperous,” or too “fixed on the Dow Jones.”

Writing in The New York Daily News, Cokie Roberts once explained that what was necessary in this, as in all cases, was to ensure “that people who act immorally and lie get punished.” She added on ABC News’ “This Week,” “I approach this as a mother… We have a right to say to this president, ‘What you have done is an example to our children that’s a disgrace,’”

Fox News commentator and Weekly Standard editor William Kristol, also speaking on “This Week,” once said he was infuriated by the president’s “defiance,” his “contempt,” his “refusal to acknowledge some standards of public morality.”

Also on “Meet the Press,” Stuart Taylor of National Journal informed host Tim Russert once said, “I’d like to be able to tell my children, ‘You should tell the truth.’ ” He added, “I’d like to be able to tell them, ‘You should respect the president.” And I’d like to be able to tell them both things at the same time.”

Jonathan Alter, writing in Newsweek, once described the president as someone “who has made it virtually impossible to talk to your kids about the American presidency or let them watch the news.”

Conservative commentator Mona Charen, speaking again of the president’s private family life, added, “This ought to be something that outrages us, makes us ashamed of him.” THAT WAS THEN Neither the Clintons’ private lives nor the Bush girls’ exploits have anything to do with the way the president governs the country.

OK, so the pundits were talking about lying about adultery, rather than hiding your own arrest and alcohol abuse history to your children. Is there an important difference? For the nation’s purposes, I think not. Both have no relevance whatever to do with the job we elect a president to do and hence, ought not to be any of our business. For the record, I am guilty of everything the Bush girls have been accused of and then some. From what I can tell, they are nothing more than healthy, spunky, authority-rebuking adolescents, who, unlike the rest of us and by virtue of their father’s job, are not going to be allowed to make their own mistakes. (In this regard it may be worth pointing out the incredible maturity and self-discipline of another former adolescent in this regard, one Chelsea Clinton.)

But President Bush long ago forfeited his family’s right to personal privacy when he announced — while campaigning for the right-wing religious vote — that what happened in the privacy of his own bedroom was somehow the nation’s business. He said he thought it a job requirement of a president to remain faithful to his wife.

And the national media has also long ago decided that the personal foibles of the president’s family are fair game not merely for reporting, but also for kind of sanctimonious moralizing that makes watching public affairs television feel as if we are living in an Orwellian republic run by a committee of virginal aunts and great-grandmothers.

NONE OF OUR BUSINESS

Now might be a good time for politicians of all stripes to come to the aid of their country — and their profession — by informing the rest of us that their private lives are none of our business, period. Republicans might wish to offer a blanket apology for the unnecessary distractions they caused to the nation during the impeachment imbroglio, as well as the damage they did to our Constitution when they ignored this nostrum.

Such a revolution, however, can only come from the top down. Well, Mr. President, is your family’s business our business or not? Enquiring minds want to know.

-- (hypocrisy is the norm @ in. Dumbya's world), June 01, 2001.


Bullshit. The Bush daughters are no different than other private citizens. Their mistakes have nothing to do with the governance of this country. Making a public spectacle of them is nothing more than petty revenge by those who are still enraged that Bush was elected. What a bunch of losers.

-- Remember (the@ld.forum.com), June 01, 2001.

Their mistakes have nothing to do with the governance of this country.

Just like Bill Clinton's lying about getting a blowjob in the Oval Office.

-- (private@is.private), June 01, 2001.


George Bush campaigned on a pledge that the quality of his private was a measure of his ability to govern. Now he says it’s none of our business.

This is exactly true. Bush's "private" is none of our business. I suppose you want to know if he is circumcized? The nerve!

-- (Paracelsus@Pb.Au), June 01, 2001.



Bush Law Has Daughters in Trouble

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - President Bush himself signed the zero- tolerance underage drinking law that has his 19-year-old twin daughters in trouble in Texas.

rotflmao.....

-- (oh@the.irony), June 01, 2001.


First, unlike what is reported here, the penalties could be stiffer -- that is, if she's treated like a PRIVATE American citizen:

"Should Jenna Bush, now cited for her second offense, be charged and found guilty of a third one, the punishment could get much stiffer. In accordance with a 1997 amendment to a law, she could be jailed for as long as 180 days and fined as much as $2,000, said Sam Smelser, the assistant chief of enforcement for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission. That amendment was signed by her father when he was the Texas governor."

Second: This has everything to do with Bush's stance on improving the "moral tone" of the country, and his social engineering, even going so far as to attempt to coerce people into marrying.

Third: It was fair game for a Republican commentator to talk about the KILLING OF CHELSEA CLINTON just because she had the MISFORTUNE to EXIST.

Fourth, the administration's press secretary should not be threatening reporters. But it's a bullying strong-armed tactic in line with an administration that, like the Mafia, "has a long memory."

The hypocrisy and bullying of this administration stinks. If Clinton had "appealed" for anything he would have been hung and quartered, drag to death by a ruthless media which is merely the propaganda arm of the far-right.

YOU KNOW if this was Chelsea, Rush and the cable channels would be on the 24/7, and it would keep escalating until the public would turn against them.

June 1, 2001

Appeal for Privacy After Bush Twins Are Cited for Alcohol

By FRANK BRUNI

WASHINGTON, May 31 — As the police in Austin, Tex., charged President Bush's 19-year-old twin daughters today with violating Texas liquor laws, the White House beseeched reporters not to use the situation to tread too far into the family's privacy.

The daughters, Barbara and Jenna Bush, received misdemeanor citations for their behavior at a Mexican restaurant and bar in Austin on Tuesday night. The police charged Barbara for underage possession of alcohol and Jenna with using false identification to try to buy alcohol.

It was the second alcohol-related charge for Jenna, a student at the University of Texas, who pleaded no contest to a previous citation just two weeks ago. It was the first citation for Barbara, a student at Yale.

And it threw both the White House and the press corps into turmoil, with each trying to figure out how to deal with the other and struggling to define what was and was not appropriate for public examination.

At both his morning and afternoon news conferences today, Ari Fleischer, the White House press secretary, was besieged with questions about what the president was saying to his daughters and how Secret Service agents had been instructed to behave when the daughters break the law.

"I would urge all of you to very carefully think through how much you want to pursue this," Mr. Fleischer told reporters as the atmosphere around his remarks turned slightly tense.

[WHAT THE F*CK IS THIS? DOESN'T THIS SOUND LIKE SOMETHING FROM A MAFIA MOVIE? "VERY CAREFULLY THINK THROUGH"???? IS THIS A STALINIST STATE OR WHAT?? LAST I CHECKED, THE PRESS STILL HAD FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO WRITE ABOUT WHAT EVER THEY WANTED!]

"I understand that there's a question of law," he added, meaning that the daughters' identification by the police as people who had broken the law made the incident itself fair game for reporting.

But, Mr. Fleischer insisted, it did not provide any justification for journalists to delve into the family's private conversations or emotions.

"I would urge you to be very careful because any reaction of the parents is parental," he said. "It is not governmental. It is family. It's private, and the American people respect that."

White House officials and friends of the Bush family took a similar tack, declining to provide any details about the way the president was dealing with his daughters.

Jenna Bush in particular has drawn public scrutiny for her behavior; a photograph of her in a wild pose at a campus party ended up in The National Enquirer shortly before her father's inauguration.

One White House aide said this afternoon that President Bush had indeed spoken to Jenna on the telephone since the incident on Tuesday night and had let her know "he was not happy that it happened."

Another White House aide said that the president and the first lady, Laura Bush, would be seeing Jenna this weekend at Camp David for the first time in a month and a half, but that Jenna's visit had been scheduled before the latest incident.

She and Barbara, who has visited the White House more recently than Jenna, are both traveling to the presidential retreat in Maryland for a family reunion connected to the 10th anniversary of a chapel there.

The aide said that the first lady had reacted to the news of the incident with "disappointment, but, more than anything, concern."

During his presidential campaign, Mr. Bush and his advisers said that his daughters had not wanted him to run for the presidency specifically because of the impact they feared it would have on their private lives.

They almost never showed up at campaign events and were not used in campaign commercials. But Mr. Bush often referred during speeches to the joys and heartaches of raising adolescent daughters.

Paul Costello, who was the press secretary for former First Lady Rosalyn Carter, said that the way in which politicians have turned family values into political fodder justified reporting on their children, especially if the children were being arrested or investigated by a public agency.

"Once you move to that ground, you open yourself and your family up to questions," Mr. Costello said. He added, however, that he did not think the White House had any obligation to discuss how Mr. or Mrs. Bush was dealing with their daughters.

At several pivotal junctures of his campaign, Mr. Bush or people close to him cited the example he wanted to set for his daughters as the reason he would not provide — or had not provided — detailed information about whether he had taken drugs or been arrested in the past.

But he made no secret in general of his past drinking in college and beyond.

According to the Austin police, officers responded to a call from the restaurant, Chuy's, that people under the legal age of 21 were trying to buy alcohol. Both Barbara Bush and a friend, Jesse Day-Wickham, had apparently gotten drinks. Jenna had been asked for an identification and had presented a valid driver's license that belonged to someone else.

Toni Chovanetz, a spokeswoman for the Austin Police Department, said, "Some of the patrons said, `That's Jenna Bush, and she's only 19'."

The charges are misdemeanors that carry a possible penalty of a fine of up to $500, attendance at an alcohol awareness course, community service work and the temporary suspension of a driver's license.

Should Jenna Bush, now cited for her second offense, be charged and found guilty of a third one, the punishment could get much stiffer. In accordance with a 1997 amendment to a law, she could be jailed for as long as 180 days and fined as much as $2,000, said Sam Smelser, the assistant chief of enforcement for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission. That amendment was signed by her father when he was the Texas governor.

Marc Connolly, a spokesman for the Secret Service, declined to answer questions today about whether the agents assigned to Barbara and Jenna should intervene if the daughters engage in behavior that breaks the law but did not pose an immediate danger to their health or safety.

But a federal law enforcement official familiar with the workings of the Secret Service said that it would be wrong to assume that agents were always hovering close enough to the daughters to see their every move.

"They are able, dependent on the situation, to afford their protectees a great deal of security and protection and still allow them some distance and some privacy," the official said.

-- Grand Hypocrisy Party (gop@scum.com), June 01, 2001.


bump to the top, cause it matters.

-- (bush@twofaced.scum), June 01, 2001.

After all the whining, the books and movies will flow...make a note of this prediction.

First up? MTV

-- (bush@twofaced.scum), June 01, 2001.


LOL!! All of a sudden privacy is very important, know that the shoe is on the other foot! ROTFL!!

-- (Dumbya=@sleazebag.hypocrisy), June 01, 2001.


I predict Dumbya will bomb Iraq within the next week.

-- (here comes @ wag. the dog), June 01, 2001.



-- (seeing@W.ya), June 01, 2001.

back to the top

-- (this@is.news), June 01, 2001.


This is exactly true. Bush's "private" is none of our business.

but clinton's was?

-- and another hypocrite (cr@wls.out), June 01, 2001.


I am quitting my job in order to devote my life to posting these articles about dumbya's daughters to Unk's full time.

-- I hate dumbya (I@really.do), June 02, 2001.


up!

-- (daytwo@bumping.this), June 02, 2001.

Bush's daughters are just as dumb and irresponsible as their dad. They make it too EASY to nail them! After Jenna's first bust she should have known better but apparently didn't learn from her mistakes. What a chump!

-- TheCapDoesn'tFallFar (From@TheBottle.com), June 02, 2001.

Hey, back to the top!

-- (day34@bumping.this), June 04, 2001.

inbred reality check

-- (day5@bumping.this), June 05, 2001.

hey pa he pickin on us

-- (day6@bumping.this), June 06, 2001.

We need to bump it every hour. When I voted for Jenna, I had no idea she was going to do this.

-- Impeach Jenna (do@it.now), June 06, 2001.

up she goes!

-- (day7@bumping.this), June 07, 2001.

Too the freaking top Jeeves!

btw there is a process to this madness. Yep there is. You will know why shortly.

-- (day7@bumping.this), June 07, 2001.


if this don't beat all ..... Bush Speaks of Fatherhood Challenges

rotflmao

-- (keep@bumpin.this), June 07, 2001.


AAAHH hahahahaheheheWhOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhehehehaha are you Repuliberals really freaking stoopid.

Have a read of Dumbos latest.

The meltdown is on!!!

-- (whocares@bumpthis.dubya), June 07, 2001.


up they blow!

-- (day8@bumping.this), June 08, 2001.

bumped again

-- I will bump it until dumbya is impeached (I@really.will), June 08, 2001.

Please don't remind people about my slutty behavior, if my Daddy finds out I've already had 3 abortions he'll start drinking again and slap me around.

-- Jenna "The Easy Bush" (i'll take it up the butt @ for. a long island iced tea), June 09, 2001.

Hey if we are going to bury the Squire threads, at least do it proper.

Up they go the JB Twins!

-- (day34@bumping.this), June 15, 2001.


Belated Fathers Day bump.

"We love ya Pop!"

JB

-- (daywh@teverbumping.this), June 18, 2001.


Hey who is this Chandra Bitch? WE are the story you dorks, not that Lesbian Hillary tramp.

Up we go Barb! ya up we go Jen hahaha! I winder if any of these peasants here have any ice? my t is warm, hahahaha".

-- (jenna@bush.con), June 19, 2001.


Whew almost fell-off the page,,,,up she goes.

-- (day34@bumping.this), June 26, 2001.

Sheeesh, what a couple of lushy-sluts!

They need to get to a church and do a confession immediately! Pray for forgiveness, pray, pray , PRAY!!

-- Jimmy Swaggart (dembush.hos@is.lushysluts!), June 26, 2001.


Court does what Dunya is incapable of doing, telling his daughter to grow-up

-- (too@funny.haha), July 06, 2001.

Wonder how much Dunceya paid that Texas judge to go easy on his lushy-slut daughter. If that was Jane Q. Public, she would have done at least 6 months in jail.

-- (what @ spoiled. cunt), July 06, 2001.

6 months in jail?! Where do you live, China?

-- What (an@sshole.you.have.to.be), July 06, 2001.

What ‘what’ meant to say ‘What’ is that HE would do a 6 month spin for this infraction, what with his previous sexual molestation convictions on record.

-- Another (hair@brained.liberal), July 06, 2001.

Let's be fair here folks. The ONLY reason this ever went before a judge is because it is Dunceya's daughter.

Let's just appreciate the irony for what it is.

-- (too@funny.haha), July 06, 2001.


"Let's be fair here folks. The ONLY reason this ever went before a judge is because it is Dunceya's daughter."

No, the reason this went before a judge is because the law in Texas (which the President approved and signed when he was Governor of Texas) requires it, and because Jenna has multiple alcohol offenses on her record. The ONLY reason YOU are complaining appears to be because you would like Miss Bush to be let off easily on these charges simply by dint of her parentage.

And THAT'S the real irony here.

-- Already Done Happened (oh.yeah@it.did.com), July 07, 2001.


Wrong, go back to Chuys and start over with your "analysis".

-- (too@funny.haha), July 07, 2001.

what an,

If they lived in China they would be executed. Of course if we all lived in China we would all be gone under the new crackdown.

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), July 07, 2001.


"Wrong, go back to Chuys and start over with your "analysis"."

If you think my analysis is wrong, then you are free to tell me or show me how. If you choose not to, then I see no merit in your lame post, and no substance in your contention.

If, on the other hand, you simply don't agree with me, that's fine, too, as far as it goes.

In either case, you are hereby invited to kiss my shiny white ass. You dare do nothing more than that, for you know what your fate would be -- that of the leash-troll.

-- Already Done Happened (oh.yeah@it.did.com), July 07, 2001.


I love you JBT, and otherwise, speak for yourself.

ADH, it wouldn't shine so if you would powder it.

-- helen (good@morning.children), July 08, 2001.


Helen,

Are you forgetting about that day in 197?, whenever, that you mentioned during Unk's Love Post Day?

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), July 08, 2001.


I knew there was some immoral behavior admitted to somewhere!

I love you Unk. This was a fine idea and I had a great time. I haven't loved that many people in one day since 19-THREAD DRIFT!

-- helen (can@we.do.this.again), July 01, 2001.

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-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), July 08, 2001.


Ah...JBT, since when is loving others immoral? Only using others is immoral. And that's all yer gonna get on that subject from me, so just quit it.

-- helen (dont@remember.anything), July 08, 2001.

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