Will the real coward, please stand up?

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sThe sad part of all this is her children suffer. She was probably so bombed while her children were growing up she didn't teach them about safe sex and now her son has AIDS. She is still so bombed she's never in any shape to help him.

Watching a human being melt down is sad to watch in cyberspace as well as real life.

At least Mr. "Fun" doesn't have children. It's sad he encourages her though. Isn't this considered "enabling? With friends like him you don't need enemy's.

-- (sad@sad.sad), May 09, 2001.

Ok, so i've posted while on vacation. My bad. After the above, do not worry, I wont post EVER again. That was uncalled for and hurt me bigtime.

Capn thanks.

I know its unmoderated, but sad, it is too bad you have to stoop to such all time lows, w/out even admitting who you are.

Capn, email me babe I'll send you pics.

-- MY LAST POST (shh@aol.con), May 09, 2001

Answers

I've got some free advice for you, Holmes. Nobody even knows what the fuck you're talking about, and I would image very few care. Red-faced yet?

-- Whata (G@D.numbskull), May 09, 2001.

Hey Sumer-

Leaving this board is exactly what this slime ball wants. Don't give him/her the satisfaction of chasing you away.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 09, 2001.


'Sumer: Never say NEVER. The forum has, indeed, been seeing lots of activity of late by folks that disagree INTENSELY with the folks who originally started posting here. So what? Hell...I agree with that poster who said Capn was the guy posting all those racial slurs. Does that mean I think anything less of Capn? No. Capn treated ME nicely when I met him, and I don't give a SHIT about what he thinks of my choice of mate or his feelings on mixed relationships in general.

'Sumer: There are some new posters here who would like to run everyone off but themselves. I don't use sun-screen, because I tend to tan and not burn, but that racially-mixed mate of mine burns his first time out in the sun. After being exposed to the sun, one's skin SHOULD be thicker. [Is that true, or only an old wive's tale?] Anyway, don't worry about what some anonymous posters say. To do that would be conceding to their plan. You wouldn't want THAT, would you?

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 09, 2001.


Good friggin’ riddance. But sumer will be back…she has bid these brain dead farewells before, only to re-appear like last weeks trash. Seek help woman and put your problems in the hands of professionals. Even in the wide-open unrestrained format of this forum you stick out as seriously disturbed.

Monkey boy, you can take your puss nut, worthless ass down the road too.

-- Lay Down (on@the.couch), May 09, 2001.


don't leave sumer. You are the last vestige of intelligent life left on these forums.

-- sumer fan (most@of.time), May 09, 2001.


Sumer will be back, she is an addict. As another poster pointed out, she has "left" before and returned shortly after.

I don't think anyone is trying to get anyone to leave. Alcoholism is a serious problem, and there are several on this forum who do have serious problems with it. Others usually notice the signs before the addict does and they bring it to your attention for your own good, but you must be willing to change. Denial and escape is typical behavior of people who have a problem, but it never works. For those who have progressed into the late stages (you know who you are) there is little time left. You will either confront it or die.

-- (there are signs of @ serious. problem), May 09, 2001.


Tarz: We posted simultaneously, but we've seen the same thing. Every poster on this forum who uses a consistent name has been accused of being a drunk, drug addict, yapper, idiot, [Need I bring up how all females were accused of having abortions?] Then there's the obese angle. If the women haven't had abortions, they MUST be obese. It's all so laughable that I'm surprised that 'Sumer even cares about it.

Enjoy the rest of your vacation, 'Sumer, and share those pics with ME, as well.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 09, 2001.


"I'm surprised that 'Sumer even cares about it."

Stress will do that. With her son's AIDS, she is under enormous, constant stress to deal with everything and not let her feelings interfere with it all. On vacation she let down her guard. I'm guessing that's why this big time jerk got through to her. If I had to deal with what 'sumer is dealing with, I'd be a mass of sore nerves underneath whatever calm front I could manage to put up. Away from my responsibilities, I would probably overdrink every night. If 'sumer does, it would make perfect sense to me.

This jerk is a big time asshole, but (s)he (or should I say "it"?) certainly knows where to kick to get the maximum pain.

'Sumer, if it makes any difference, the better people here are rooting for you and your son.

-- Little Nipper (canis@minor.net), May 10, 2001.


**Hell...I agree with that poster who said Capn was the guy posting all those racial slurs. Does that mean I think anything less of Capn? **

Anita you bitch...you obviously do, if you can post this crap

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001.


LN,

Drowning oneself in alcohol does not make problems or tragic situations disappear, it only makes them impossible to deal with. It is particularly during difficult times that a clear mind and good judgement are most important. Your recommended strategy of getting stupefied with alcohol and destroying the nerve cells is the worst possible approach. The only thing worse you could do when you are called upon to be strong is to put a bullet in your head.

-- (denial is not @ river. in egypt), May 10, 2001.



and excuse me you cold-hearted asshole, but I don't recall anyone asking for your opinion

do you?

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001.


Since when does anybody ask for opinions Cin? Did Anita ask you for yours? I like your spirit and for what it’s worth, I’ll put my money on you when the cat fight commences.

-- Lay Down (on@the.couch), May 10, 2001.

LOL!

I offer sympathetic advice that may help save lives, and some bitch calls me a cold-hearted asshole!

The aggressiveness of those in denial is amazing! "Cin" is undoubtedly another person with a serious problem who would rather hide in a bottle than face life's challenges head-on.

-- (denial is not @ river. in egypt), May 10, 2001.


So...by your theory, anyone who does NOT heed your advice, becomes cast as a hopeless alcoholic.

Wow you really are a genius

NOT

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001.


Never said you had to heed my advice, and I don't deserve your shit-mouth comments just because I posted it.

-- (denial is not @ river. in egypt), May 10, 2001.


Now,now...temper,temper.

The prescribed meds must be taken at regular intervals to work properly.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), May 10, 2001.


Anita you bitch...

Wow...how many times have I uttered that same sentiment under my breath? It's that self-righteous passive-aggression that makes me wanna' slap her face sometimes. With 'sumer....well, she's just addled and sloppy, 'ya know, and can easily be ignored. (And I'm sure there are those who may think the same of me!)

But we're not too much different from any other dysfunctional "family", are we? Which goes to say that even though some people thoroughly irritate, annoy and piss me off, it's still one helluva' group to hang with. (How''s THAT for a back-handed compliment?)

-- 1 (2@3.com), May 10, 2001.


That's right Capnfun, the alcohol must be consumed at regular intervals every day. Without it you are a nothing but a spineless quivering shadow of a human being.

-- (alcohol @ is. a drug), May 10, 2001.

Without it you are a nothing but a spineless quivering shadow of a human being.

Wow. You have a flair for the sweeping Dramatic Insult.

-- Keep (camping@it.up), May 10, 2001.


Anita you bitch...you obviously do, if you can post this crap

You don't have to worry about us thinking less of you, cin. It would be difficult to think any less of you than we already do.

-- (cin@is.a.bitch), May 10, 2001.


Oh I'm sorry...

were you under the impression that I care what you think?

LOL

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001.


OK cin. I've had about enough of your shit. One more remark out of you and I'm going to post the picture of your son and your last name.

-- (cin@is a fucking.bitch), May 10, 2001.

were you under the impression that I care what you think?

No. We were under the impression that you don't care about anyone but yourself, unborn fetuses, and rabid muderous dogs.

-- (cin@is.a.moron), May 10, 2001.


For one thing, my son's pic is on my website. What's your point here?

Aor another, what you think is my last name, probably isn't.

What I think you should REALLY do today, is call and make an appointment at your local mental health clinic.

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001.


Sumer don't let this crap get to you. I thought you said at one time you have a thicker skin. Keep that in mind. The comment on your son was stupid and don't give it any weight by reacting to it.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), May 10, 2001.

If the name in that old family photo isn't your last name it won't be hard to look through public records to find out what it is.

Quit fucking around bitch. Anita only expressed an opinion.

The choice is yours.

-- (cin@is a fucking.bitch), May 10, 2001.


I'm going to have to call your bluff

And be very careful not to do anything illegal, because you WILL be prosecuted.

Now go and do the right thing.

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001.


I'm not gonna get in any cat fight with Cin. She can call me anything she wants. Besides, sometimes I really AM a bitch.

Just for YOUR benefit, Cin, I'll explain the thing I said about Capn. I blew off that thread about the typing weirdnesses of Capn being identical to those of that anonymous poster, but sometime in the past month, I noticed those typing weirdnesses again and they're REALLY tough for someone to simulate. So...I agree that he's most likely the guy that posted the stuff. Now...as to it bothering me, I think that racism is pretty much like religion in that folks tend to believe what their parents taught them and either get these beliefs reinforced by the society in which they live, or find that people are just people by exposure to all different types. I agree with [I think it was] 1 2 3. This forum has all different types. It's why I enjoy it. A difference of opinion on one issue, or six issues or XX issues doesn't constitute reason for me to dislike someone. I'd no sooner prefer to live in a Stepford society than I'd prefer to post on a Stepford forum. I enjoy diversity.

Regarding 'Sumer, I don't think she HAS a drinking problem. She's a slight woman and two drinks could be enough to slur her speech or cause problems with typing. I've always thought of folks with drinking problems as those who hid their indulgence. As far as I'm concerned, she's on vacation, finally found out what a Tiki Bar was, and is having a good time and thought she'd share it with folks on this forum who she THOUGHT were her friends. Next week [or sooner], she'll be back home and back at her desk at the Insurance Company.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 10, 2001.


I won't be posting anything you haven't already made public.

I'll be back after I've checked the law.

-- (cin@is a fucking.bitch), May 10, 2001.


Sumer, hang in there and keep cool, kiddo. Pay the trolls no mind. Those "suppositions" on you and your son were obviously made by someone with self-esteem problems who was just out looking for someone to trash. These people get a temporary "buzz" from this kind of stuff; they're actually a very dependent (on others) type of personality -- reality is too tough for them, so their primary focus is on finding other people to insult, which gives 'em that "rush."

And they LOVE the attention, too -- positive OR negative. So the best thing is to just try and ignore 'em.

-- Eve (eve_rebekah@yahoo.com), May 10, 2001.


Anita,

I'd prefer an SO that stood by me to you. How would you introduce Capnfun to your SO? "Here's the Capn, he believes in dragging niggers to their death behind his pick-up, but he's a good guy to me"? Again, there's a difference between being accepting and having no judge of character.

-- Get (_@.grip.now), May 10, 2001.


Get: When we first moved to Texas, my kids met some other kids who were raised to be racist. I'm talking about teens here. Once they met SO, they weren't racist anymore. I still think the whole concept is based on lack of exposure or believing things others have said, or even seeing things in one's own community that reinforce the beliefs.

My mom, for instance, had never in her life met a black person before I invited one to dinner. Dad had more exposure, since he worked at the mills. Yvette and my folks got along famously and when she left they said, "Lovely woman. VERY nice."

I heard the very same things that the anon poster said when I was growing up. I don't remember the anon saying anything about truck- dragging. It was more stuff like, "Only 400 lb. white women would go out with a black guy" kindof stuff. I noticed, when I was a kid, that the women seen with black guys were heavy, myself. I can't say I can pinpoint when all this changed. My guess is that nothing even DID change, except my perception of it. *I* grew into a teen, saw folks of various ethnicities dating, marrying, etc., both the male and female being of normal weight and maybe even above average looks. The folks living in these neighborhoods had their previous misconceptions dashed. Sometimes it's just that simple.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 10, 2001.


To quote what a very wise man from another thread -

... "Why are you people responding to this asshole?"

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), May 10, 2001.


"Now go and do the right thing.

-- (cin@cin.cin), May 10, 2001."

LOL!!!

Now I see why Cin is such a fucking bitch!...

SHE IDOLIZES DR. LAURA THE PSYCHO BITCH!!!

Bwaahahaahahaaahahaahahaa!!

She sits on her ass all day collecting welfare while learning how to imitate the psycho lady!

-- bwahahaha!! (cin.is@trailer.trash), May 10, 2001.


Sorry couldn't let this one go...

From an undisciplined mind: "sometime in the past month, I noticed those typing weirdnesses again and they're REALLY tough for someone to simulate."

"A difference of opinion on one issue, or six issues or XX issues doesn't constitute reason for me to dislike someone." (Yet it was reason enough for her to leave to seek like-minded left-wing people. And also reason enough for her to come back and defend her friend against me.)

And "Once they met SO, they weren't racist anymore." (Like you know what's in these teens hearts. Liking one black person doesn't make a person non-racist.)

Anita, cin is right that remark was extremely stupid. How would you know? On another thread you accused Unk writing "in Maria mode", saying he made the comments that I actually wrote. What was that all about? Point is, you can't possibly know for sure who any of these posters are. Anybody can sign Capn's name to any kind of post, so could Unk or me, and so could you.

-- Maria (anon@yous.com), May 10, 2001.


What was that all about?

THAT was all about Unk's statement that all posters were actually HIM. I'd just read that before I posted to your thread.

The anon poster didn't use Capn's handle, BTW. In fact, he's E- mailed me and was hurt that I thought the anon was him.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 10, 2001.


You know Maria, we’ve all spent time around people like Anita. Nosy and intrusive, think they have the ability to read others minds. Anita’s own life and family are so fucked-up that she gravitates towards those that live on the boundaries of accepted behavior. This somehow allows her to live peacefully as the weird little outcast that she is. My guess is that she is actually alone in life and makes up all of this shit as her way of coping with her sad existence.

-- Days (of@our.lives), May 10, 2001.

You know what all this looks like to me? Like some idiot throwing a few random punches in a crowded barroom, trying to start a donnybrook just for the sheer hell of it. I never could understand the attraction of that, but some folks seem to think it is fun.

-- Miserable SOB (misery@misery.com), May 10, 2001.

Days,

You said,

"My guess is that..."

Well, unless and until anyone has even a clue as to who or what the "my" refers to, I'm not sure why anyone here would care to take your word for anything. Especially after what you posted about Anita.

While I can't be familiar with everything Anita's written, I've communicated (through posts and some e-mail) with her and read probably hundreds of her posts for about a year and a half or more, and she comes across to me as a woman of honesty and integrity. I specifically recall small details that come up in her posts now and then that I remember from her writings a year or more ago. I haven't met her in person yet, but I still guarantee you -- she's about as real as they come.

-- Eve (eve_rebekah@yahoo.com), May 10, 2001.


Oh geez...and I just got through talking about ignoring the trolls...

-- Eve (eve_rebekah@yahoo.com), May 10, 2001.

Eve, you’ll just have to be punished ;=)))

-- Days (of@our.lives), May 10, 2001.

Dear Ms. Strub**,

I have strongly disliked you since you called Helen a bit*h. I was also online that night and looked around your "site". I won't give away your whole name, but if "cin@is a **.bit**" posts the other letters are you going to sue both of us? What are you going to sue us for? Posting a name you lead us to? That is ridiclous. Besides, you would have to find out who both of us are and I post from the library with an anonymizer. No one here knows who I am so it would be very difficult to sue me.

If you weren't so dumb you'd know people can find out all kinds of info about you by keying in your name on google. Isn't that right, Ms Samantha Kane?

-- (Just@keeping.score), May 10, 2001.


I would love to hear more of this story, Just...

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 10, 2001.

On second thought, maybe I don't.

-- Tarzan the Ape Man (tarzan@swingingthroughthejunglewithouta.net), May 10, 2001.

Just, please don't do this.

-- helen (oh@no.stoppit), May 10, 2001.

WOW the age of bashing-sarcasm-meaness-lawlessness-self-love. boy prophesy is so accurate-and it's gonna get worse. ever heard of''do unto others-as you would want done to you'' and ''don,t lower yourself to the level of the devil'' but gee this is cyber-land--very few real e-mail & I.D.s here when did [put someone down] become so popular?? ahhh but that's the nature of the BEAST. is it cool to be cruel??

-- al-d (dogs@zianet.com), May 10, 2001.

Hi,sumer, Keep on posting.Doesn't everyone have the right to let their hair down whilst on holiday ? I thought that was the point of the exercise!

-- Beenthere (done@that.com), May 10, 2001.

“let their hair down” ROTFLMAO. Now that you’ve ‘let your hair down’ you might want to wash out the footprints.

-- Lay Down (on@the.couch), May 11, 2001.

sumer,

You could probably offer to meet this little boy face-to-face and scare him off...it worked at least once in the past...

:)

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), May 11, 2001.

LOL, that's a laugh! Sumer is scared of her own shadow! That's why people like her and Capnfun drink so much, they don't have the guts to face up to reality.

-- (face@reality.now), May 11, 2001.

*people like her and Capnfun*

Why yes we do like them. A Lot

-- (well@sa.id), May 12, 2001.


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