AZUSA 2001-Are We Ready For This New Move In The Local Church??greenspun.com : LUSENET : A.M.E. Today Discussion : One Thread
I have been attending a revival with Bishop Dwight Pate, Pastor of Church Point Ministries of Baton Rouge LA. God has given him and awesome healing and deliverance ministry. 6 years ago, the Lord instructed Bishop Pates that if he would pray over olive oil that God will turn the whole world upside down. He did so and millions from all over the world use this anoniting oil. God's Soverign Power has shown up in this oil. People have used this oil and tumors have fallen off or disappeared, this grandmother was blind, her son took the oil and poured it on her eyes and she regained her sight back. This man who was deaf since birth, someone poured the oil in his ears and now he is hearing like you and me. This happened at the revival that has been going for 9 weeks now, this woman who has a goddaughter with AIDS. This child contrated the disease from the womb. This woman found out about the Holy Anonited oil and took it home. She had her goddaughter bathe in it, drink the oil, anonited her head with the oil. Three weeks later when it was time for the child check up on her viral load count, the doctor's report came back the Cd4 count came back at 1900 (when it was 15) and the viral load was at zero. In otherwords, the HIV left her body...this little girl got a miracle! This man who smoked cracked, his wife took the oil and put some in his grits, guess what, after the man ate the grits, started shaking and fell to the floor speaking in tonuges. God not only delivered him of the crack addiction but also filled him with the Holy Ghost. This woman had colon cancer, Bishop Pate prophesied to her "In 24 hrs after recieving this oil and using the cancer will pass out of your body." This woman also bathed, and drank the oil. 24 hours later, the prophet's words came to pass and she passed (in parts) the cancer that big a grapefruit. The doctors gave her a clean bill of health. This my testimony....I was struggling in the area of my finances. The Lord told me to get the oil and pour it on my bills. Guess what!!! Checks from unexpected sources are coming in the mail for me, I got favor with my creditors, God is blessing my finances!! IF WE LOOK BACK IN THE PAGES OF CHURCH HISTORY IN AMERICA, WE SEE THAT WHEN TRUE REVIVAL BROKE OUT, THE PEOPLE GOT SAVED HEALED DELIVERED AND THE NEEDS WERE MET. WE SEE IN EARLY PART OF THE 20TH CENTURY AT THE AZUSA REVIVALS, WILLIAM J SEYMORE STRATED THIS REVIVAL IN A METHODIST CHURCH.....SO THE HOLINESS MOVEMENT BEGAN IN METHODISTISM...HUMMM, THIS WIND OF REVIVAL LASTED FROM 06-09 ONLY 3 YEARS!! WHEN CHARLES MANSON, THE FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST COMPROMISED WITH THE WHITE BROTHERN TO SEPERATE SO THAT THEY CAN START ASSEMBLY OF GOD, WHY DID THIS MOVEMENT DIE OUT? WAS THE AZUSA REVIAL THE HOLY GHOST'S WAY OF UNITING THE CHURCHES TOGETHER? WE IN THE LAST 50 YEARS SINCE THAT SPLIT IN THE CHURCH, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE EMERGING OF THE NATION OF ISLAM, THE BLACK POWER MOVEMENTS, THE ASSINATION OF THE GREATEST BLACK PREACHERS, SUCH AS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING. WE HAVE SEEN PRAYER TAKEN OUT OF SCHOOL, THE GAYS WHO WERE A MINORITY, BECOMING A MAJOR ISSUE IN THE AMERICAN AGENDA, ABORTION HAS BECOME A CONVIENT WAY OF POPULATION CONTROL, AND OUR CHILDREN BEING KILLED LEFT AND RIGHT IN AMERICA'S CLASSROOMS STILL, WE WHO ARE SO CALLED SAVED AND HOLY GHOST FILLED OH YES!! WE WHO ARE MINISTERS, WE ARE PREACHING A GOSPEL WITH NO ANOINTING, WITH COMPROMISE, A BURNT OUT MESSAGE, THAT WONT MAKE JOE THE RATTLESNAKE GET SAVED. I SEE ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD, THAT WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING THE REAL ISSUES, WHERE HAVE WE GONE WRONG IN TODAY'S CHURHES? I READ WHERE SOME MINISTER ASKED CERTAIN RELIGIOUS GROUPS OTHER THAN CHRISTIANS TO PRAY FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS SICK ON HERE....WHY GO TO THE HEATHEN TO PRAY FOR GOD TO MOVE? THE HEATHEN CANT DO ANYTHING FOR US? THE COMPROMISED CHRISTIAN CANT DO NOTHING EITHER, JESUS TOLD THE LAODEICIAN CHURCH, I WISH YOU WERE HOT OR COLD...WE COMPROMISED WITH THE DEVIL TOO MUCH ALREADY, AND NOW....YOU SAY YOU HAVE A MOVE OF GOD IN OUR CHURCHES? ALL OF CREATION IS WAITING FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD TO TAKE OUR RIGHTFUL PLACE ON THIS EARTH. IT IS TIME TO THAT THE PULPIT MUST DECREASE AND GOD IN THE PEOPLE MUST INCREASE. THE DAY OF THE BIG TIME PREACHERS ARE OVER....GOD IS NOT GOING TO TRUST HIS MOVE TO ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AND THE BACKSLIDE, NEITHER HE IS GOING TO TRUST THIS NEW "AZUSA" TO SOME WATER-DOWN MILTOSE COMPROMISING CHRISTIANS, WHO JUST WANT THE GLORY, BUT DONT WANT TO SUFFER FOR IT. YOU AS A PREACHER, ARE AFRAID OF CONFLICT, GOD WILL TAKE THE VICTORY OUT OF YOUR MINISTRY. IF YOU REFUSE TO CHALLENGE THE RELIGOUS MACHINE THAT IS RUNNING THE CHURCH, YOU ARE NOT FIT TO BE CALLED ONE OF GOD'S SERVANTS. NO CONFLICT NO VICTORY. THE REAL ONES WHO HAVE DEVIL PROBLEMS, MEANING THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS ON THEIR TRAIL, ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CASTING OUT DEMONS, HEALING THE SICK, SETTING THE CAPTIVES, MOST OF US HAVE A MIND PROBLEM, BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS CLONED US INTO BELIEVING THAT TWO HOURS ON SUNDAY WILL CURE OUR WHOES....WHAT THE AVERAGE SAINT GET IN CHURCH ON SUNDAY IS SPIRITUAL CRACK, JUST A HIGH THAT LAST FOR A FEW MINUTES. WHO PROGRAMMED US INTO BELEIVING THAT WHAT WE ARE GETTING IS A MOVE A GOD? WHO LIED TO YOU? WE ARE SO CLONED THAT IF WE WANT TO VISIT OTHER CHURCHES WE HAVE TO ASK THE PASTOR FOR PERMISSION. THE CHURCH THAT WE KNOW TODAY IS WHAT MAN MADE NOT WHAT GOD MADE. IF WE LOOK IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, PETER PREACHED ONE SERMON AND 3,000 GOT SAVED. THE APRONS AND CLOTHS OF PAUL HEALED MANY, PHILIP WAS SENT TO ETHOPIAN EUNICH PREACHED THE GOPSEL TO HIM AND THEN TRANSLATED TO ANOTHER PLACE. YOU KNOW TODAY, IF YOU DONT MAKE IT TO A BENNY HINN CRUSADE TO GET A HEALING, BACISLY YOU ARE LOST. BUT IN THIS MOVE, GOD IS ENPOWERING THE SAINTS, NOT THE PREACHER AND DO THE GREATER WORKS. IN CHICAGO, THE WINDS OF REVIVAL ARE BLOWING HARD AND EVERYONE WILL FEEL IT FROM AROUND THE WORLD. THE TRUTH IS BEING PREACHED IN THESE MEETINGS AND GOD IS HEALING PEOPLE WITH AIDS, CANCERS, DEBTS BEING PAID, IS THAT GOING IN YOUR CHURCH, OR HAVE YOU ALLOWED YOUR CHURCH TO BECOME A RELIGIOUS SOCIAL CLUB AND BLOWING SMOKE UP EACH OTHER'S NOSES.
-- Anonymous, March 26, 2001
I have been praying for the church of the U.S.A for over a year. Everything God has given us we have messed it up. HIS WORD, HIS CHURCH, HIS ANOINTING. The church had decreased the Holy Spirit down to just speaking in tongues. Where is the power that the book of Acts talks about? I am convinced that most of the people in the church don't know who God,Jesus and the Holy Spirit are, they dont have a relationship with Jesus or the Holy Spirit. They have become too busy in the ministry and the world to spend time with Almighty God, they don't know His voice or the whole charater of God.The pastors have taught all what God can do and give us prosperity. But what about what God wants Gen.6:6 says God was grieved in His heart that He made man that let me know that God has feelings. What about what God wants, how does He feel?We have decreased Almighty God down to the image of a man.That's why the church can't believe what God says. He means what He says and says what He means. Every one is too busy to study His Word not just read but to study, most don't know how to pray. He gave us a pattern in Matt.6. We need to know His name because His name reveals His character.We don't even know how to cry out to God.We can't trust someone who we really don't know.It's all about a relationship that cost to have it takes time we need to turn the t.v. off,not answer the phone, go to that secret place so we can be alone with God.You can never truely trust who you don't know. We are too busy tring to make more money to buy more things that will take more time away from our devotion time with God.Most of the pastors are so busy running here and there til they haven't heard from God then they try to bring a message and say that God gave them this message.Where is the power in the churches today?We have used the Glory wrong , when the Glory comes we won't be able to stand in the presence. It has made me sick to my stomach I can image how God feels. Why don't we have a hunger for God, not for what He can and will do for us, but only for His manifested presence. We dont have to wait til Heaven to have a manifestion of God Almighty. I will continue to call, cry, and study until I recieve the manifested presence of God and to be filled and filled and filled with the Holy Spirit. There are a lot of religious persons that are not filled with the Holy Spirit.I believe we have to completely hungry for God and nothing else.It is time to stop playing church.Most of the churches the Holy Spirit is not even there. Jesus is standing on the outside, that's why it's so dead.We want to start church at 11 and be out by 2 so when did the Holy Spirit have time to do anything Im not saying that the Holy Spirit could not do anything in that time, but we have to stay true to the program. Throw the programs away yes I know that there needs to be order but my goodness.I want to be in the manifested Glory of the Lord and not just when I die.
-- Anonymous, October 06, 2001
Each generation must have its own "close encounter" with God. Children must have their own Pentecost. Decay within Christian movements comes from the children's faith being less powerful than their parents, so that by the third generation many no longer know how to pray and minister as their grandparents did. Many times the later generations don't even know anything is wrong. It doesn't have to be this way, but it often is.
Many in the Christian community are seeking revival, but are stumbling blindly along not knowing how it comes. But God is faithful, and will lead seekers to the Book of Acts once again. Revival is popping up here and there, and many are praying for it all over. We'll get there.
-- Anonymous, October 06, 2001