103 film width

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Hi all

Can someone tell me the exact width of the 103 film ?

(Not with the spool only the film)


-- Christian Nze (cnze@club-internet.fr), March 25, 2001


Christian: Can you give us a little more info on "103 film"? I have never heard of it. Is it a roll film, and if so, what does it fit?


-- Doug Paramore (dougmary@alaweb.com), March 25, 2001.

the 103 spool fit in special holder like a roll of 4 inch width to give 4*5 images . It was also use on ld camera like Bull eye 4 and Panoram.

I asking bergger to make me some film which has the same width as this film but I don't know the precise size.

Is it 4 inch or a less.

-- christian nze (cnze@club-internet.fr), March 26, 2001.

See the web page The History of Kodak Roll Films by Chuck Baker.

Unfortunately, all it has to say was the image size was 4x5, but it is an interesting place to look up that odd film size for the camera you find in the attic.

103 was made from 1896-1949.

-- John H. Henderson (jhende03@harris.com), March 26, 2001.

Divide by 24.4 millimeters/inch. 103/2.54 = 4.055 inches.

-- neil poulsen (neil.fg@att.net), March 26, 2001.

Let's try again!

Divide by 25.4 millimeters/inch. 103/25.4 = 4.055 inches.

-- neil poulsen (neil.fg@att.net), March 26, 2001.

Christian, I checked out Walker Mangum's Kodak Collector's site, and he lists (with Thom Bell's site as the source) 103 film as having a "picture area" as 3 3/4 in. x 4 3/4 in. If you go to this site, it's under the heading "History of Kodak Roll Film". With production dates from 1896-March 1949, it's a safe bet that the original film was nitrate base. I suppose you could check with Film for Classics to see if they stock a substitute, or have any more info. Here this is Mangum's site: http://www.nwmangum.com/Kodak/

-- DK Thompson (kthompson@moh.dcr.state.nc.us), March 26, 2001.

Hey Christian, I guess I spoke too soon...go to the Film For Classics website. They offer Verichrome Pan in 103 size. It's not cheap though...

-- DK Thompson (kthompson@moh.dcr.state.nc.us), March 26, 2001.

In fact my idea is to order a roll of bergger to use it . But I need to give them a precise size. At the same time I haven't any spool so I can't give it.

Thanks all for your help

-- christian nze (cnze@club-internet.fr), March 27, 2001.

You could always order a roll from Film Classics, and forward it (or the measurements) to Bergger. That should solve your problem! Regards, ;^D)

-- Doremus Scudder (ScudderLandreth@compuserve.com), March 27, 2001.

Yes doremus,

I think about that, And I already contact them to order some roll. but as Bergger hvae a 8 weeks delay. I want to order it as soon as possible

-- Christian Nze (cnze@club-internet.fr), March 27, 2001.

Christian, I think part of the cost (or an addition??) to the Film for Classics stuff, is a deposit on the spool itself. They have varying amounts for the different types of film. I can understand the price of the film given the limited market for this stuff, but I'm just curious about Bergger. Is it any cheaper to get them to custom make the film for you? Unless you have a collection of the spools to begin with. I don't have any experience with Bergger so if they do alot of special order stuff, never mind the question...

-- DK Thompson (kthompson@moh.dcr.state.nc.us), March 27, 2001.

in fact Bergger make all special order without tax and limit. They got a price for the square meter and I just have to ask for rool , sheets or what ever the thing I want they to it and from a little pieces to a big one

-- christian Nze (cnze@club-internet.fr), March 27, 2001.

The last time I spoke with film for classics (RECENTLY) they were *not* selling verichrome 103 anymore. however, i buy 5" aerial plus from them. it ain't cheap either: $20 for a 4' roll. they *might* cut aerial to 103, but i wouldn't count on it. btw, 103 is only about 3-11/16" wide, at least what i bought from them was that wide, and it fit a kodak panorama #4 perfectly, which was designed for that film.

-- andy (buckwiet@yahoo.com), March 31, 2001.

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