Are there murmerings of discontent with BR?

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His training / motivation methods seem to have been questioned by ex players and the fans are starting to think that there could be something in it. If we lose against the Boro what will the feelings be like towards Bobby Robson and the rest of the training staff? Will we still put up and shut up or will he start getting a bit of stick?

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001

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He has to be accountable for the job he does but I cannot see the fans turning on him. You only have to think of the alternatives i.e Gregory or Graham to think how fortunate we are to have him.

Maybe Bobby has got all the ideas but he just may be having trouble getting it through to the players. My main concern is the fitness and the injuries because if that was sorted out to normal proportions the rest would work. Spiritless performances this season may be down to players being half a yard off the pace due to their fitness levels.

That is one area where I thought Robson would excel.

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001


the sanctity of bobby robson has been part of the bbs dogma all season, in the spirit of intellectual debate let me challenge that:

bobby's selling & signings:

players such as bassedas,cordone, lua lua and even acuna have all been criticised on here for their performances, yet nobody has criticised the man who signed them. none of bobby's signings have hit maric or marcelino proportions but none have made a significant impact either. on the sell side, bob got rid of players who were seen as under performing or injury prone, some have since done ok (howey) since others not

verdict: bobby has signed a lot of average players and overall the team is no better than 12 months ago. replacing pistone (ultimately) with wayne quinn smacks of insanity or at least dementia.

Player management:

very few of the current team look like they'd die for the cause (shearer & hughes excepted) many look like they couldn't give a toss. the public humiliations of domi, solano and to an extent ameobi served no purpose, the departure and wicked words of goma suggest that this is not a happy ship.

verdict:

bobby has failed in this area

Training/Injuries: nothing new to add here, another debacle.

Overall i think BR must take a chunk of the blame for a crap season, yes he saved us last year but this season we've stood still. i'll give him until christmas to turn things around, if he can't i'll be recommending he spends his days feeding the ducks in leazes park.

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001


Georgie - it all depends on whether YBR's hands are tied by FS et al. Of course, you could argue that given the resources he has available, then he should be able to make a better job of it. Who knows? TIme for a drink, methinks...........................

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001

can't anyone see the link?

it started with TSM, TDO had the same problem and now YBR is having trouble:

THE PLAYERS! Specific players in my opinion. If i was a real cynic i might even suggest that the problems started with signing of AS....

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001


We still need someone at the top to be strong enough to take control of the beast that is NUFC and start sorting things out. Make a plan and policies and start acting on it. For every person/entity that's singled out as "the cause" of our problems, there's plenty of reasons why sole blame can't fall on their shoulders. It really is so frustrating. Especially when there are folks on this board who have given very clear plans on various problems. It seems so berloody obvious, but we're stuck wondering if those inside realize this and are at all willing or trying to do anything about it.

As for dressing room attitudes, I don't doubt that the seeming untouchability of Alan Shearer doesn't create some problems. Even subconsciously. He's been a great player, still has plenty to give, is willing to die for the cause, is a nice enough guy, etc, etc. But he's still a human being, and I don't think it does anyone any good for successive managers to keep putting him on a pedestal. Nor can it be much good for younger players and those bought in to face a dressing room apparently ruled by Shearer and Lee. Ok, they're senior players and strong personalities, but as far as I know they aren't Managers or Coaches.

Much as it pains me to say anything good about SAF (;-) ), he's never had a problem dropping his 'stars' when he feels they aren't cutting it, in play or attitude. And no problem telling them to lump it if they don't like it. A little bit more of that around CLS wouldn't go amiss. Bobby has shown a tough streak with many players, but not with "teacher's pets".

Sorry for the rambly babbling. I'm outta here in 10min to pick up my contribution to the booze-up my friend is hosting at her place this evening. :-)

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001



It's our very own version of the The Magic Roundabout - blame the manager(s), blame the players, in particular blame Alan Shearer and Rob Lee (yet again), blame the coaches, blame the medics, blame the Frogs - we've even blamed ourselves for being too loyal, not passionate enough, put too much pressure on the players, etc., etc.

There is still one other constant factor in our gradual slide towards anonymity and nationwide derision - IMHO "the buck stops there".

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2001


The issue with TSM and TDO and YBR IMO is that they all have a TLA cos we can't cope with owt more than five leta words

-- Anonymous, March 17, 2001

George Best esq, The sanquity of Bobby Robson has been the BB`s dogma all season, let me challenge that, as far as this forum goes you are so correct , Even though I have been critical, at times I have had to bite off my typing finger to stop myself from the thought of that I may be hurting peoples feelings, Football brings out the senseitivity in Geordies, I need the hardness to come to the fore,

I will not expand on GB points , agree with them all, the buys in particular but I forward a point which has never been discussed on here and in my mind is a major contribution to how Bobby goes about his job. From his media interviews , his opinions of certain players IMHO that if you look at everything in depth he was/is attempting to run Newcastle the same as when he managed England . Then he had the cream of the country , he was a lot younger , limited contact, top coaches around him , he is a football man , I respect him , but when you get older you will revert to tried and trusted methods, the main difference being he is now surrounded by crap coaches and players who frankly not good enough. He will not be able to change his methods, now or in the future , and on record to now £30 mill is a lot to risk.

I watched the influence of Shankly in the Glory Games last night , that`s how to build a club, another story

-- Anonymous, March 17, 2001


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