I visited EZBoard for the first time since it's inception and opened an account to post. What do I find? "zog", still posting about chemtrails (see below - he seems to be giving up the ghost!)

In that same thread, some posters admitted that they still think the Y2K bug is with us and secretly wreaking havok.

I think that might be a funnier site than The Onion.

Re: [gvt] TROLLS, Proof
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---well, ta heck with the pics then, how about all the other lebenty zillion links put up? Why do the link putter-uppers bother? What sort of "proof" of anything is ever on the internet anyway? What does it take? Senate testimony that reluctantly the DOD finally adnited they have ben doing just all sorts of nasty experiments on people and crops and the weather and things on the ground, from aerial spraying, for only 50 years now and all of a sudden we're supposed to believe THEY STOPPED? Say what?? ..... 

...ranting continues...

.... How about "aerosol research"? what the heck is an "aerosol, anyway?" Ain't that some sort of "spray" or is there an official skeptics dictionary internet word definition that's different from what I'm familiar with? or what?



It's like, why bother anymore with this, I know I've tried hard, so have lots of other folks, look at this official bozo they trotted out, his actual name and title, what he's in charge of, part of it contains the word "aerosol". either some clues can be looked at, and thought about, or they ain't looked at, it ain't thought about, but it gets discussed anyway, with a constant "where's the beef" attitude, when it's been presented on a plate dozens of time s now here. maybe not prime rib yet, but we've sure dished out a lot of chopped meat so far. fuzzy pics, phooie. I asked a friend who's a pro photographer and videographer, any idea what a stabilised high speed super telephotic lensed camera costs that can take clear non fuzzy pics from the ground to altitude? SERIOUS FOLDING GREEN, that's what. Most teevee stations don't even have one. How many folks got that hanging out in their house? It ain't happening.



I mean, this is old now, real old. No more links from zoggy here, that's for sure, they ain't looked at, obvious as a pile of manure in the hot sun. 

-- Bemused (and_amazed@you.people), March 09, 2001

Answers

Sorry about the formatting. The cut n' paste from EZboard kept it all in one line in the "pre" block. Either that or that's how Zog actually types.

-- Bemuses (and_amazed@you.people), March 09, 2001.

I think he's saying quite a few people are too stupid to know if what they're seeing is normal or not, and he's tired of dealing with them.

I can definately relate.

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 09, 2001.

Zog never met a conspiracy he didn't like. I think he wears underwear with Art Bell's picture on it...

-- Chuck the fat driver (blah@blah.com), March 09, 2001.

Good to see that you are still here. One correction: they have changed the name from Time Bomb Y2000 to Abby 24/7 as I understand it.

DB

-- Debunker (DB@nomore.xxx), March 09, 2001.

"I visited EZBoard for the first time since it's inception and opened an account to post".

Biggest % of lurkers are from right here and Poole's Roast.....everyone knows that, who you kidding!!!

-- NoteVer (pay@to_veiw.toll), March 09, 2001.

I still believe in them there Chemtrails and always will. At midnite on the 12th of every month right before daybreak you can hear em. When the sun rises you can see the word ZOOKS plain as day in the eastern sky. In about fifteen minutes it rearranges and spells NOTPOE. Then everybody around here starts sneezin. Happens every month without fail!

-- Boswell (cjseed@webtv.net), March 09, 2001.

You're safe Boz. You need only worry when it spells "GADZOOKS" and rearranges to "POTNOE". What you are seeing is just a test, 'gadzooks' is the real thing.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 09, 2001.

* Not to worry.The fine folks at USA today are working to get at the bottom of this controversy.*

"If you try to pin these people down and refute things, it's "Well, you're just part of the conspiracy." says atmospheric scientist Patrick Minnis of NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton Va. "Logic is not exactly a real selling point for most of them".

Nothing is "out there" except water vapor and ice crystals, say irritated scientist who study scientist. Some, such as Minnis, are outraged enough by the claims of chemtrail believers that they have trolled internet chat rooms to correct misinformation or have gotten into arguments with callers.

*There's no such thing as a paid government troll. Everybody knows this is fringe rant.*

The cloud-forming contrails that conspiracy theorist find so ominous are "perfectly natural", says Minnis. The odd grid and parallel-line patterns are easily explained as contrails blown together by the wind, scientist say.

*Nature is very mysterious, that's all*.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/sience/2001-3-07-contrails.htm

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 10, 2001.

My proofreader didn't come in today.

That should read:

say irritated scientist who study contrails.

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 10, 2001.

Greetz Boz,

This'll distress you no end, but we don't get chemtrails in OZ. Don't really get much of rain either. We've had 11 millimetres since the first week of October last. Maybe we should get some chemtrails. Nothing else seems to help & things are looking ordinary now. You Yankees seem to be into the thick of things & have all the fun...damn boring Down Under - just more endless blistering blue sky frying us to a crisp.

Zaadz in OZ

-- Pieter (zaadz@icisp.net.au), March 10, 2001.

Hey KoFE It is the same KoFE isn't it? Its ALF. I tryed to answer you contrail questions as well as I could over at tb2k but haven't heard back from you. The thread is down around page 4 or 5 by now. BTW I post everywhere I don't have to register with this name if your interested.

-- Just passin through (nobody@nowhere.com), March 10, 2001.

You make some good points over there, Alf. However, I have photos of jets laying trails directly over federal buildings on the DC mall. As for your suspicion that this controversy is designed to cloud bigger issues; that could be, as well.

I don't have a personal stake, except that my normally healthy son has a re-occuring illness that 3 courses of anti-biotics didn't kill, not to mention my sister-in-law with the same. They are showing the same symptoms that other people in "sprayed areas" are showing. There are some areas in the country where there are no reports of trails at all. (I suspect that this is where our forum commedians live)

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 10, 2001.

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Now I’ve been known to partake in some comedy now and then, so the ‘Chemtrail Conspiracy Playhouse’ is right up my alley. I have yet to actually meet any of these ‘true believers’ so I must assume we live in one of those ‘special’ places, where flyovers are banned.

The crop dusters in Oregon must be on the endangered species list

-- So (cr@t.es), March 10, 2001.

More science from Socr@tes. Or, is that Minnis? Tell me some more about the contrails blown into parallel lines by the wind. LOL!

-- KoFE (your@twn.USSA), March 11, 2001.

There are some areas in the country where there are no reports of trails at all. (I suspect that this is where our forum commedians live)

So if I read this correctly KoFE, you are saying that the "chemtrails" have an anti-comedic effect on the sprayed?

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), March 11, 2001.

Can't be, Unk. I "see them" all the time here, and I'm still funnier than ever. (Seen a couple of them there black helicopters, too; noticed that ALL helicopters at a distance against an otherwise beautiful sky look black. Whooda thunkit.)

-- (PatriciaS@lasvegas.com), March 11, 2001.

Pieter, sounds like you're drier than a popcorn fart down under. That's no fun when your water tables goin down and the ponds are dryin up. Raises hell with the evergreens and the pinetrees. But it makes them put their roots down deeper to go after it, and it gives them more resistance to a strong wind. But in them strong winds I here them kangeroos can't stand up so they use their tail for support.

-- Boswell (cjseed@webtv.net), March 11, 2001.

"Tell me some more about the contrails blown into parallel lines by the wind"

Planes going to the same destination that don't want to fly in each others turbulance wake. All the pilot sees in the contrail and flies next to it to be out of it. Thus parallel lines.

-- Just Passin Through (nobody@nowhere.com), March 11, 2001.

Uncle D; yup.

Just passin thru, or maybe you really are Minnis, which is it?

Is the wind blowing the trails into a parallel pattern (like the article quotes,) or is it pilots flying beside existing ones?

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 11, 2001.

Hey Boz, Monday morning here, & wouldn't you know it. By writing a brief note to you on this chemtrail thread I made it rain overnight. This cannot be coincidence, but is proof of mighty eavesdropping going on and someone finally listening to our dry dispair. Mind you, it's only a passing infatuation of the precipitation, but it smells wet and that's a beginning.

By the way, our kangaroos are in plague numbers. I'll dig up a recipe or two for you, especially that one for skippy tail soup - I'm partial to soup-la-roo-tail, and so are many others which accounts on the many tailless critters here-abouts...

Chow from OZ

-- Pieter (zaadz@icisp.net.au), March 11, 2001.

Tell me some more about the contrails blown into parallel lines by the wind. LOL!

Here ya go, KoFE... Picture a motorboat leaving a dock and crossing a stream. Now picture another motorboat crossing the stream after departing from the same dock as the first boat. The visible wakes from each boat are now parallel to each other. Amazing! What do I win?

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), March 11, 2001.

You won the jackass award, CD.

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 11, 2001.

My little analogy fly over your head, Kofe? (pun intended)

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), March 11, 2001.

-- this is the mighty ZOG? (ROFL@online.com), March 11, 2001.

-- yep it's real (yatta@yatta.com), March 11, 2001.

Here ya go, Kofe. Perhaps you can better understand how parallel contrails can form if I rephrase my analogy using terms you're more familiar with...

Picture an evil gubmint-owned motorboat as it leaves a dock and travels straight across a flowing river until it reaches the other side. Trailing directly behind this boat is a wake which is caused not only by the turning propellor, but also by the soup of anthrax vaccine which is being sprayed from a secret compartment within the motor's lower unit. As the boat reaches the other side of the river you can clearly see the very visible wake stretching across the width of the river as it slowly floats downstream.

Now picture a second boat which the evil gubmint repossessed from a guy who thought he could get away without paying his taxes. This boat leaves from the same dock as the first boat and follows the exact same course straight across the river until it too reaches the other side. Once again there is a trailing wake visibly stretching across the width of the river. Unlike the first wake, this wake contains a mysterious glowing poison which is being sprayed into the water in order to cull the school of fish unwittingly swimming below.

Now then... Being that the wake [contrail] from the first boat [airplane] has drifted with the current [upper-atmospheric winds], it is now 20 feet downstream from where it began. The second boat's wake has not yet drifted as far downstream and therefore it is seen as PARALLEL to the wake which the first boat left.

Of course, if a person has been dumbed-down by all that spraying I guess they wouldn't exactly be able to understand this analogy/explanation now would they. How 'bout you, Kofe? Can you now grasp the concept of how two planes can travel the exact same flightpath yet leave two distinctly parallel contrails?

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), March 11, 2001.

You won the jackass award in 2 catagories, CD.

The second is for elaborating on a point well missed from the beginning.

The idiot Minnis is claiming that "trails" are "grouping" into parallel lines and "grids" of their own accord, on a regular basis, thanks to wind currents.

When this actually happens, I'll make Boswell kiss your ass.

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 12, 2001.

I ain't kissing nobodies ass unless it's washed, powdered, and don't have any hair on it!

-- Boswell (cjseed@webtv.net), March 12, 2001.

Kofe- You asked for an elaboration ("Tell me some more about the contrails blown into parallel lines by the wind.") and I obliged. It's obvious to me now that I should have refrained from entering into a discussion of contrails with someone who considers a NASA atmospheric scientist an "idiot". Apparently you are one of those who Patrick Minnis was referring to when he said; "Logic is not exactly a real selling point for most of them".

-- CD (costavike@hotmail.com), March 12, 2001.

I'm trying hard to point out that Minnis is not making sense, and you're too goddamn dumb to figure it out CD. Contrails don't have the ability to line themselves up in rows, and/or grid patterns. If the wind starts acting like an draftsman(no pun intended), then natural law is gonna have to be re written.

This is a dumbed down, disinformation article, and it's working very well, apparently CLUE^

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 12, 2001.

"Logic is not exactly a real selling point for most of them".

Pretty much sums it up!

-- So (cr@t.es), March 12, 2001.

So predictable........

-- KoFE (your@town.USSA), March 12, 2001.

This report is the result of research into the science of contrail formation and an analysis by observation and measurement of contrail persistence. This research was inspired by the claims of an unnatural type of trail known as Chemtrails as an attempt to detect such trails.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml

What was found is that highly persistent trails that last for many hours were seen above Houston, TX on a majority (60%) of observable days during the data collection period. However during this time period none of the 46 Flight Explorer confirmed contrails observed persisted for over 30 minutes and most contrails were under 30 seconds of persistence. Additionally it was discovered that the jets that were responsible for leaving highly persistent trails that last for hours did not ever appear on Flight Explorer and were documented for 8 separate instances, including one instance with two jets in formation. These unidentifiable jets were found to produce a contrail that was consistent with confirmed contrails during the periods when they weren't leaving highly persistent trails. Highly persistent trails are often seen in the form of isolated relatively short strips, as well as large areas of cirrus aviaticus clouds, but on rare occasions have been seen in totally unique grid and wheel formations.

-- Frodo (x@x.com), April 06, 2001.

We had them there chemtrails on the 1st, 3rd, and 4th of this month. They come swoopin down amd blew the panties right off Mrs. Marker our neihbor. Her husband come home in the afternoon and found her in that condition behind the house and accused her of other stuff. Two days later the town people found Jeff Nyland's dog up in the church belfry howlin and sniffin at the trails like he knew something we didn't. And the next day to top it all off, County Sheriff Nelson caught young Reggie Tyler a wankin off on the Judge's windshield in the parking lot in broad daylite. They said it run down that glass in paralell lines like them chemtrails and Tyler told em that the voices from above told him to do that! The whole thing is totally unexplainable!

-- Boswell (cjseed@webtv.net), April 06, 2001.

What I'm wondering now is...

How many "Boswell's" doe we have here?

The latest is actually fun to read.

-- Bemused (and_amazed@you.people), April 06, 2001.

Hello there Bozwell,
Fancy that. Thanks for resurrecting this Chemtrail thread. Sadly we've had none in the duration, but we've got rain now, so no need to send any aerosols - we're doing fine without the assistance you Yankees seem so earnestly keen on sharing.
Your tale about the spraying of sundry constabulary windscreens reminds me of a time when the lark was to join the bar shout and drink 'till bursting or eviction, which ever came first at Corcoran's Tantanoola Tiger Shanty, and then make a rush to de-ice the mercedes of a member of the local squatocracy of OZ lore. We refrained from this rather dashing example of pissed demeanor after a particularly hot-n-virile jet cracked the glass into a million fissures and shards, and after one of the more inebriated souls was dragged before the circuit magistrate at Millicent to answer a summons of gross public exposure and such. Indeed we all went to ground for quite awhile, preferring the cave and quarries of Mount Watch to blow some steam instead of a more civilising session in nearby townships on the lookout for mischief.
So as you can see, I appreciate your candour and study of the natives. I've been studying the local variety for donks as well.
Regardz from Zaadz in OZ

-- Pieter (zaadz@icisp.net.au), April 07, 2001.

Actually Pieter, I didn't try to resurrect this Chemtrail thread cause it seemed to appear out of thin air. Uncle Del told me last week that he can remember chemtrails clear back in the fifties when they first started this poison spraying. They'd pick out a patch of blue and just start writin. A calm day would let it stick around for hours. That stuff would come swoopin down on us out in the hay fields when I was growin up and we'd all head for the water sack. The dogs would howl and the rattlesnakes would start buzzin for no apparent reason. We finally just headed for a shade tree when we'd hear a B-36 a thunderin over head. We had no idea what they were trying to do. But it's all out in the open now I quess!

-- Boswell (cjseed@webtv.net), April 07, 2001.