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That other topic is too long, but damn, we need a place to talk about last night.

It just occurred to me that someone from Kucha is almost certainly going to win it all. I'm assuming that both teams will essentially remain aligned, following the Tagi strategy of picking off the other team one by one.

Given that, you can assume that next week will be a 5/5 tie, with everyone on each team voting for the same member of the other team. If they break the tie the same way they did last time, Ogakor has a problem: only one person on Kucha has ever received a tribal council vote (Jeff, from Kimmi last week), because all of their votes have been unanimous. But if Kucha picks Keith or Jerri -- which they very well might, if they're trying to nail the leader of the other tribe -- they've each got votes against them.

Of course, they might go for Colby. Then things could get wacky. But I'm guessing they'll go for Jerri (as leader and supreme annoyance factor -- picture her and Alicia together), and Ogakor will go for Alicia, Jeff, or Nick. In either case, Jerri has at least two votes against her, so she loses ... and Kucha has a numerical advantage that will let them pick off the other team one by one.

Anyway, that was some nasty television last night. But I'm so very glad I got to see Colby hit Jerri in the face with that bucket of water. I just wish it had been the bucket.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001


Oh, wait. Jeff actually has two votes against him, too. I forgot that Debb voted against him the first week.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

I thought that reward challenge last night was one of the most exciting i've ever seen. Just in case Nick wasn't enthusiastic enough i made sure to help them out by also yelling encouragement to the Kucha tribe. As i jumped up and down in my living room screaming "To the left! Now go! GOGOGO! YES!" i was very relieved that i was alone in the apartment and vaguely wondered what the people downstairs may have thought was going on in my living room.

I'm not entirely sure what the big controversy was about showing last night's episode. If someone had died, say bitten in half by a crocodile, i would understand, but as bad as it was and as serious as it was, it wasn't THAT graphic (though the loose and flappy skin was pretty gross) and no one died.

Did anyone catch Brian Gumble talking with Mark Burnett this morning? I wasn't able to catch it and forgot to set my VCR.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

I thought the accident was pretty bad - obviously not as dramatic as viewers were lead to believe, but burns are wicked painful, and 3rd degree burns on his hands - he could have lost a lot use from them.

What I did find interesting was that team practising - right away, I was cheering them on - how smart! What drove me the most nuts though was when Mike ran in the water, and was bellowing, only Elisabeth waded out there with him for the longest time, and the rest just stood on shore, staring at him. Way to be caring.

My completly uneducated guess now is, Elisabeth wins - maybe just as a backlash - last time, a totally corrupt guy won, and she is the opposite - a really nice, trustable person.

I hope Colby goes next - way to support team spirit by throwing the water. I think it was a bad move, displaying the team weakness in front of the others, and also, how childish. Like, he would have been better. Lets face it - a challenge that needs a screamer has Jerri's name all over it, and she did have a pretty loud yell.

He should have waited until they got back to camp, and then stoned her.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

I'll pay good money to watch Alicia beat Jerri's ass. Good money.


Watching the burns last night nearly left me twitching. I had similar burns when I was 18, and I can't *fathom* having to go through that outside of a city, away from immediate medical attention (that camp wasn't really prepared for burns, I think). I'd rather break both my legs than ever go through that again.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

Kucha may be favored to win, but there are still immunity challenges to muck things up. (Kelly won like 3 or 4 times in a row in the first one?)

I saw Michael on the Early Show -- I'd say 2nd degree burns, and he healed up without skin grafts. (though they were recommended)

Not much harmony in the Ogakor tribe, but they may end up being even more lean & mean losing all those reward challenges. At first I thought Colby was pretty laid back, but he now seems the most competitive of that bunch.

I also saw Jerri on "Blind Date" before she went off to Survivor 2. Her date called her "the perfect date". Hmmm?

The producer (I forget his name) was also on the Early Show. He was asked if they had footage of Michael falling into the fire. He wouldn't say if they did, but said they weren't all about making things "too graphic". Of course, this would have shown Jeff Probst pushing Michael into the fire after being ordered down there to "even things up." (my conspiracy theory for those so inclined)

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

The "Survivor" website said he had 3rd degree burns + surgery.

I don't know if anyone in Kucha is aware of what happens in the event of a tie, but the Ogakors definitely do. This could give them a significant advantage if they're able to figure out who has had votes against them.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

I expect Kucha will see the tie coming and find out what will happen. I expect each tribe to try figure out who on the opposing tribe got the most votes against.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

For what it's worth, I think the website is full of shit when it says he's completely healed now.

That doesn't mean they were third degree burns, though.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2001

Although I hear the DVD of Survivor I had almost no additional tape, I'm thinking that michael might be the star of the SurvivorII DVD. First of all they can show all the nasty killing and butchering that went on in Kucha, then they can show more of this accident... I sound like i have a bloodlust, which maybe I do. I don't think I could watch Michael falling into the fire, but I do do do do do want to see how the hell he caught and killed that pig!

-- Anonymous, March 03, 2001

My theory for next week (which is probably completely wrong) is that Jerri will be ousted by nearly everyone but Lamber. I'm sure Kucha (particularly Jeff and Alicia, who will definitely not like not being the only bitchy girl around any more) will notice right off what she's like, and given how Keith and Colby and even Tina are utterly sick of Jerri (I suspect the guys would like to defect to the Kucha side, especially Colby, who I can easily imagine squealing to the Kuchas about what she's like), I think it could happen. Especially if she plans to go down making herself as awful as possible.

I hope, I hope.

And way to go with the water bucket! I was cheering. I think the guy is just utterly sick of her in all ways. The chocolate/sex/bongo drum/screaming bit in particular. Oy.

-- Anonymous, March 03, 2001

I saw an interview with Michael on a local show where the first question they asked was "show us your hands". They do appear fully healed. He said the 3rd degree burn was on the heels of his palms and up towards his pinky fingers because he pushed himself up from the fire while his hands were in the coals.

In The Morning Show interview with the producer, he said they wouldn't tell whether they had film of the falling in. He went on and on about how if they did have it on tape, they wouldn't show it because that's not that kind of a show. It's a "family" show, CBS is a "family" network, and they know kids are watching. Well if you know kids are watching, then why don't you have an issue with airing Jerri's sex fantasies? "I want to pour hot chocolate all over some hot dude's bod..." (speaking of 2nd degree burns!)

Nothing like a good old double standard to keep those ratings up!

-- Anonymous, March 05, 2001

Kristin, you said what I was thinking -- I can't believe how everyone just stood around uncomfortably while Michael is howling in pain just a few feet away. My estimation of Elizabeth (I didn't like her at first -- now I'm not sure why) has gone up quite a bit.

And then, when Jerri comes running back with the news to her tribe -- dig how it took like 30 seconds for them to turn "Oh my god, how awful" to "Oh my god, how will this affect the upcoming merger...?" Then again, to be fair, as everyone's always saying, the effect of the editing has to be factored in. It's not as though we saw their reaction (or the accident itself, for that matter) in real-time.

And finally, in closing -- was I ever disgusted with myself on my own reaction to the incident...! There I was, expecting (not unreasonably) a croc attack, and then it turns out to be a tumble- into-the-campfire thing. This is the very worst kind of bait and switch -- not only do they get you slavering for something "juicy," against all your better instincts, but then they "fake the throw" and give you something else. So now not only have you been "cheated," but now you feel really GUILTY about it.


P.S. This seems not very urgent, but it has been bothering me. I read most of my Xeney bulletin board posts via e-mail (probably lots of other people do, too). I don't read them here, at least not at first. ...So, my point. Because I read them in e-mail, I don't know who's posting what...and although that doesn't detract from the messages themselves, it does make putting them into context difficult if not impossible.

-- Anonymous, March 05, 2001

Sei: that happens with certain e-mail programs, unfortunately. No way around it unless people sign their posts. But the new forum IS happening, because I already bought the software and the new domain. We're just trying to get past illness (me) and midterms (Jeremy), and then it shouldn't take too long.

I should just shut up about the new forum, because none of you believe me anymore, right?

-- Anonymous, March 05, 2001

>>Watching the burns last night nearly left me twitching. I had similar burns when I was 18, and I can't *fathom* having to go through that outside of a city, away from immediate medical attention (that camp wasn't really prepared for burns, I think). I'd rather break both my legs than ever go through that again<<

I would like to point out that the survivor camp is NOT in the outback at all. There is a 5-star hotel visible just across the campsite. Trust me, I'm Australian and that which they claim is the outback, is just a pissy little campsite.

-- Anonymous, March 07, 2001

so where were the wildfires that were burning nearby?

-- Anonymous, March 08, 2001

I actually live in North Queensland (in Townsville just south of the Herbert River where Survivor was filmed) and we often get small fires in spring where there is any sort of bush (we get them in the hills around our University campus at that time of the year a lot). And Cathy is right the Herbert River area is certainly not what any self- respecting Australian would consider to be the outback. Also there are no crocodiles in the Herbert River (well not that I have ever heard of) - it is too far south. My friends and I have been bitching about the sort of misconceptions of Australia that Surivivor plays up, although I must admit that I am addicted to the show.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

Oh, man, how could Kucha have been So Wrong! They went for Colby, and now they're just ripe to be picked off one by one. I know the previews made it look like Jerri's in line to go next, but I've finally learned that whenever MB edits it to look one way, you can be sure that person is safe. I'm not sure I can stand two more months of watching all the Kuchies go one by one.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

I don't know--I'm not sure if the Ogakor team is really tight enough to stick together. There's obviously a rift in the tribe, with Tina/Jeff/ Colby on one side and Jerri/Amber on the other. I don't think it's going to be too incredibly hard for some of the Kuchas to convince Colby et al. that he'd be better off with them sticking around rather than Jerri.

That being said, I agree with Susan that Jerri is safe next week, given the preview's clear implication that she's in trouble.

On the "Survivor" website, Jeff was quoted as saying that Ogakor knew he'd had a vote against him. Anyone know how they knew this? And if he knew they knew, why'd he give up so early in the immunity challenge, knowing that it could hurt not just him, but his whole team?

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

Kimmi told them. At one of the early challenges, someone asked her who Debb had voted for, and she told them.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

I hate Kimmi. That stupid dumb bitch. Ogakor sucks and I don't want certain jerks there to win. That's all I really have to say. I was actually feeling all mushy and happy during that episode until the end.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

Wow. Beth, you saw last night coming a mile away.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

Except I thought Ogakor would be smart enough to figure out that Colby was unlikely to have any votes against him. Ah, well. I'm sure there was stuff we didn't see.

I think Ogakor will hold together and pick off Kucha now. How depressing.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

I hope no one from Ogakar wins either, but if one does have to, i would love for it to be Keith because he seems genuinely nice and because it would royally piss off Jerri.

I'll still keep my fingers crossed for a Kucha winner, and in the meantime i am VERY upset that they voted off my eye candy.

-- Anonymous, March 09, 2001

What ever happened to Keith's vow to make sure Jerri lost? He could have easily just told the Kuchas about her vote. Or he could have defected.

I don't think the tribal alliances will hold together. Keith has to know he is the first one voted out of Ogakor after they pick off all the Kuchas, and I don't know if Colby will put up with Jerri's crap.

I'm getting my butt kicked in Fantasy Outback.

My newest Survivor piece is up.

-- Anonymous, March 13, 2001

Last week's show was great. I was rooting for the Ogakor tribe (somehow I find myself attached to the members of the Ogakor tribe, Colby, Keith, Tina, Amber, and even Jerri) and loved the way they played the game while the Kucha tribe seemed to be going into it with their eyes closed. Jerri being careful not to diss Keith. Colby subtly pretending to be a little abrasive to make it look like he may have received votes in the past. Tina handing the immunity to Keith for the sake of the tribe. Brilliant. Well played. And in the end it all paid off for Ogakor.

Although... one of the things I find immensely frustrating about this show is that we do not know what really happened -- we only know what the editors show us. Anyway, it sure looked like the Kucha were outplayed last night. Which is cool, because I find myself not much liking the Kuchas. It was great seeing Mr. I-like-to-pull-the-wings-off-flies get his ass voted out of there.

Now, next week.

The previews tried to make it look like Kucha might be able to recruit one of the Ogakors, specifically Tina. This seems highly unlikely.

I mean, are Tina's chances with the Kucha better than with the Ogakor? Of course not. They'll vote her off as soon as they're rid of the rest of the Ogakor. But what if they guaranteed her that she would make the final three or somesuch? That might sway her, but I wouldn't trust them, would you?

Tina knows Keith is on her side. She also knows Colby doesn't really like Jerri. Jerri could be the first of the Ogakor to go. If I were Tina I'd like my chances with the Ogakor much better than with the Kucha. Tina doesn't strike me as that dumb.

(And if you think about it, Colby's decision to break the alliance and vote off Mitch was brilliant. Had he voted off Keith or Tina then Kucha would have been able to recruit the one not voted off, since they would know they were next anyway.)

No, if anyone does defect it'll be Jerri, or maybe even Keith, and it will be out of spite.

I can't wait for tonight's episode! (Don't forget that this week's episode is on Wednesday instead of Thursday.)

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2001

Since the show has not yet played on the West Coast, all I can say is that I hate this ***** show and those ****** idiots.

Jim, who is so ashamed.

-- Anonymous, March 14, 2001

Pooh! (about the outcome)

But, the strategy was probably correct.

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

I think Jerri's gonna go next week. Tina, Keith and Colby so wanted to lose her tonight, but if they voted her out, they would have stupidly thrown away the Ogakor majority. Next week, they'll have the margin to lose one of their own. After that, though, I predict they'll be back to picking off Kuchas.

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

I agree 100%. It would have been so stupid for any Ogakor to vote against the tribe. As I was watching I'm going, "do you want to win or not?" Sure they wanted to get rid of Jerri, but they have to play the game.

So it looks like it'll be Jerri, the Kuchas, and then Amber voted off in that order, with Colby, Tina, and Keith being the final three.

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

Or, wait! That's not right. If they vote off Jerri, then Amber could know she's next and join the Kucha. They can't vote off Jerri next week unless they first get Amber to agree.

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

I sort of think jerri is getting voted off next time too, and thank god. But maybe its better strategy to have her stick around. Who is hated more than Jerri? (although I really dislike whiny keith right now, I have to say...) She's a good person to have opposite you as the final 2 (unless people think she is really a conniver, when really she's just a control freak).

The only thing that makes me feel good about jerri is that she has to live with her evil self, not me!

I am sad to say I think the Kuchas are getting picked off. I like elizabeth. too bad she's kind of incompetent. Hell, maybe she'll form an alliance, who knows?

I don't trust colby as far as I could throw him, though.

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

No, I don't think Jerri is going to go next week, just like I never thought she was going to go this week. They're going to keep teasing us so we don't realize how goddamn boring this is, with one team picking off the other team just like last time. Everyone wants the million dollars this time, and the best way to get it is to let Jerri into the final two (since everyone hates her).

It's totally predictable now. I think Elisabeth might be first up next time, since she's the schemer, but it could also be Nick. One of them next, then the other. The Kuchas absolutely do not play into Ogakor's strategizing; they are all concerned about how it's going to play out when it's down to five. Each group of three thinks they have Colby locked, which means that none of them has any reason to vote against tribal lines. As for Colby, he's in the sweetest position possible, so he has no reason to break ranks, either. Hell, he can just wait and choose who he wants to take with him into the final four. And I'd bet on Jerri/Amber plus Tina, since Keith seems to be the biggest immunity threat and Jerri is the one you want in the final two.

It's all completely predictable, but it's not so bad since I now think Colby is going to be our winner. I don't have a problem with that -- he's cute, he's reasonably likeable, he's pretty capable physically (which makes it palatable for him to win), and if he takes this route, he's played the game well and deserves the money.

Plus, did I say cute?

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

Kucha is doomed, doomed, doomed *sob* I suspect there's no hope there at all. (Though I was proud of Elisabeth trying so hard.) I don't really want any of the Ogakors to win, albeit Keith and Colby I wouldn't mind as much. Now I'm not really enjoying the show any more because it's turned into "oh joy, the Evil Empire is going to win."

-- Anonymous, March 15, 2001

Boring? I don't think so. This show has plenty of life left in it. Plenty!

For starters, the death of the Kucha is by no means certain. After one more Kucha is voted off we could well see either Keith/Tina or Jerri/Amber joining up with the remaining two Kucha to form an alliance of four and knock off the other three Ogakor. They (Keith/Tina and Jerri/Amber) have got to realize that Colby has promised both pairs they'll be in the final three, therefore Colby has to be lying to one pair. Which pair is it? If one pair decides it is them they could decide to join forces with the Kucha. It would be a bad move though, as none of the Kucha has any votes against. Jerri and Keith do have votes against. So if one pair does join the Kucha to form a final four the Kucha would have the power to vote the pair off.

Also, in order for Jerri to make the final two, Colby would have to change his mind. He currently plans to take Keith and Tina into the final three.

And of course there's immunity. Immunity could put anyone into the final two. Remember what happened in Survivor I? Kelly won immunity a number of times (4?) in a row to make the final two.

-- Anonymous, March 18, 2001

what's up with survivor? Is a new one on this week or not?

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2001

No, tonight's is supposed to be some sort of recap episode. I heard there's going to be some "previously unseen footage" in it, though.

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2001

It's on tonight (Wednesday) and it's a new show, but it's not a regular episode. It will be a recap, with "never before seen footage." Nobody will be voted off.

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2001

Well... that was a waste of time, wasn't it? We were basically sucked in to watching an hour long show for some 5 minutes worth of not-all-that-interesting, "new" footage.

-- Anonymous, March 22, 2001

I just heard an interesting rumor. I have no proof to back it up, but I thought someone here might have heard something.

Rumor has it, Jerri and Colby were caught in the "outback" doing the nasty, and that CBS has footage! It's supposedly available somewhere on the net. Anyone believe this?

-- Anonymous, March 24, 2001

That would explain why I am getting so many hits to my site from people searching for "Colby Jerry sex Survivor". I also get tons of "Kimmi naked pictures" and "elizabeth filarski naked survivor."

-- Anonymous, March 24, 2001

How come no one's gloating about Jerri? Come on, people!

Who's next? I think it will be Nick for sure.

-- Anonymous, April 04, 2001

Okay: ha! I was so right about Jerri!

Anyway, I think Nick is most likely to go next, too, but the whole Jerri thing really throws a monkey wrench in the works. Amber could go next, or else she could form an alliance with Rodger, Elisabeth and Nick.

I do think the Amber/Kucha alliance is kind of unlikely, though, because I think Kucha really doesn't like her. Did you guys notice during last week's immunity challenge that everyone was kind of laughing and making jokes while they were up there except when it was Amber vs. Elisabeth and they looked like they were out for blood? Maybe it was just because Elisabeth felt like she had to win, but it seemed to me like there was some real tension between those two.

-- Anonymous, April 04, 2001

I agree, Jen. There was definitely something nasty about that particular round of the competition.

-- Anonymous, April 04, 2001

That episode rocked - so glad to see the back of Jerri..

The next few weeks are going to be so much more interesting now that it's just not Ogakor picking off Kucha.

When the episode aired here it came complete with a government issued warning about how it is illegal to take coral from the barrier reef, and that individuals doing so will be fined AU$22,000 - which, lucky for Colby, under the current exchange rates, will be about US$2.50

Actually, it's about US$10,000, and there's some major controversy brewing here over it. Looks like he might be needing that million dollars

-- Anonymous, April 04, 2001

Now *that* was stupid. Would it have killed them to spend 3 more days with Jerri? Fer cryin' out loud! I just can't believe how stupid that was. Were they paid off to make the show more interesting, or what?

Tina, Keith and Colby had a lock on making the final three (barring imunity complications) and now they could be the next three voted off. All to get Jerri out of there 3 days sooner. WTF?

I just hope Amber joins the Kucha - it would serve the other Ogakor right. Poetic justice. Stupidity such as this should not go unrewarded.

The teasers for this week are sure interesting:

- "Having poorly allocated their rations of rice, the tribe has never been this hungry. As a result, they negotiate a major deal, which will hugely affect their lives in the Outback, in exchange for more rations. What will the deal be?"

- "The reward challenge brings joy to all... but not without its 'natural consequences' for all but two."

-- Anonymous, April 05, 2001

I thought last night's was one of the most boring episodes ever. Maybe that was just because it was so obvious that Nick was going to get voted off, and who cares because he's so damned boring, right?

Interesting, though, that everyone still on the show, except Amber, is very likeable. There was so much talk at the beginning of the season about how "ruthless" this group was supposed to be, but it looks to me like they've frequently abandoned strategy in favor of voting off people who were not likeable.

I think that Tina, Keith and Colby would be incredibly stupid to have any Kuchas go into the final four with them, because if there's a final two with one Kucha and one Ogakor, the Kucha person will almost certainly get the four Kucha votes, plus Jerri and Amber.

-- Anonymous, April 06, 2001

Hey, did y'all notice Jerri sneering at Tina during last night's tribal council when she made that remark about wanting to keep people on who were likeable? Actually, all the jury members looked pretty pissed off.

Amber getting voted off surprised me a little bit. I figured it would be either Colby (if he didn't get immunity) or Rodger. The recent episodes haven't really shown people discussing strategy, which makes it hard to guess what'll happen.

-- Anonymous, April 13, 2001

Amber's getting voted off didn't surprise me. She was physically strong (she almost beat Colby in that rope contest), which made her a threat to win immunity, so they turfed her.

I was a little surprised to see that Colby didn't vote for Amber, though. I mean, I have long expected Keith and Tina to turn on Colby eventually, but I don't see why they left Colby out of the plan to boot Amber. *However*, perhaps Colby knew they were voting out Amber but placed a strategic vote against Rodger, perhaps in an attempt to placate Amber in the jury and also to have some votes against Roger in any tiebreakers. This most likely would have been a team decision.

I do expect Colby to be out of there the minute he loses an immunity challenge. So if he doesn't win the challenge he will go tonight.

If he does win the challenge, on the other hand, which seems likely, then it also seems likely he'll join up with Keith and Tina to get rid of Elisabeth or Rodger. (What about the fight with Keith? That won't be a factor - too obvious.)

-- Anonymous, April 19, 2001

That was so funny seeing Colby fuming over Keith's marriage proposal. Considering that stunt Colby pulled with the coral, behind Jerri's back, he's being quite the hypocrite.

I have long felt that Colby won't win it all. Betraying an alliance (ie w/ Jerri and Amber) is just not gonna do it. It has got to be obvious to Jerri and Amber by now that Colby, Keith and Tina are tight.

Considering that Colby stood by Keith and Tina in the last round, I expect they will stand by him even if he doesn't win immunity this round. So Elisabeth is out of there unless she wins immunity, and we all know how likely that is... not gonna happen.

-- Anonymous, April 26, 2001

OK, did anyone else bust out laughing when Colby compared his mother's visit to a "conjugal" visit? Was anyone else relieved when it became clear in the next sentence that he didn't actually know what "conjugal" meant?

-- Anonymous, April 27, 2001

I guess I didn't pay any attention to whether he knew the meaning, although I thought at the time it was a rather unusual comparison for one's mother.

Well, he has been emphasizing they are really "close" [creepy creepy}

-- Anonymous, April 27, 2001

You "bust out laughing" at incest?

-- Anonymous, April 27, 2001

I almost fell off the couch when Colby said it was like a "conjugal visit." Especially since he said this just after they showed his mother taking pictures of him in the shower. Gross! I realize that the shower "stall" was tall, but it was still a little weird to me.

Until it became apparent that he had no idea what conjugal meant, I was highly creeped out.

-- Anonymous, April 27, 2001

It's just like Greg and his sister.

-- Anonymous, April 27, 2001

Come on people!!! There is nothing going on in the "outback" with Colby and Jerri!!! those 2 are virtually mortal enemies! On the final episode it was clear that Jerri was clearly holding a grudge! I don't know where the heck you guys get these stupid rumors!!!!

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2001


-- Anonymous, May 04, 2001

Jerri, Jerri, Jerri, I know you're embarrassed because he screwed you and then dissed you on national television, but even if you must post under fake names, you don't have to do it twice.

-- Anonymous, May 04, 2001

I really can't believe they would do that. If there was film of them doing teh dirty it would have flooded the net by now!

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2001

I get *so* many search engine hits for people looking for that tape. My two most popular searches are "colby and jerri fucking" and "elisabeth filarski naked". Actually, that second one makes me really sad. It got really creepy when I found a referer that was someone searching for "how do i contact elisabeth filarski."

-- Anonymous, May 07, 2001

Well, I still can't get over this. I mean, Colby basically handed Tina the $million by picking her instead of Keith.

And it seems very few people think he's an idiot for having done so.

He should have picked Keith, dammit. Keith cooked their food and put up with all their petty bickering about it. He did everything Tina did and more. Yet Colby acts like it would have been the end of the earth if Keith had won - so bad that he didn't want to risk it even if it could cost him $900,000.

-- Anonymous, May 11, 2001

That was an unadvisable gamble Colby took, indeed.

-- Anonymous, June 29, 2001

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