If You Live In Central NY look at the Sky *Being Sprayed @ 9:25 AMgreenspun.com : LUSENET : Grassroots Information Coordination Center (GICC) : One Thread
Hi,if you live in central NY look up at the sky right now. planes are leaving trails that are forming a haze that looks like it will cover the whole horizon at this very moment. I have read about this in the past and thought the people were crazy.last Monday I saw this (noticed) this for the first time. For an unknown reason we are being sprayed.9:30 AM Saturday February 24th 2001.
-- jax (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 24, 2001
WHO is spraying WHAT.
-- Martin Thompson (email@example.com), February 24, 2001.
Martin,no one seems to know or is giving any answers.However my research-which I just started is showing that the whole of the North American continent is being sprayed.If you follow this link you will be at the most accurate site I have found with photos of what is happening.I might add that I have read about this and dismissed the information as coming from paranoid individuals and until I saw this myself with my own eyes I did not believe it.Now I am amazed and have seen it myself.All I can say is pay attention to the skys and the jet trails above you and watch what happens.Best I can tell this is happening about everywhere there is a concentration of population in North America. http://www.carnicom.com/conright.htm
-- jax (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 24, 2001.
-- nondog (email@example.com), February 24, 2001.
Martin, Good question. While it is possible that there may be somebody spraying something, the vast majority of what people are claiming to be chemtrails are simply condensation trails resulting from high flying jet aircraft.The hot compressed emitted jet gas expands and cools. Depending on the climatic conditions at 30,000 foot altitudes and up all sorts of interesting patterns occur, including nothing at all under some conditions. Certainly trying to make clouds to affect weather patterns is possible, but requires the right atmospheric conditions to get the results. Spraying to adversely affect anything on the ground would be extremely ineffective. Note that crop dusters operate right on the deck, for good reason, the greater the altitude the more the dilution. Suggest Ian Goddard's Journal for a reasoned analysis
-- Warren Ketler (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 24, 2001.
Hello.In response to this last post and with all due respect.Regular jet stream "contrails" is not what I saw.I like most everyone in this country knows what they look like,and they do generaly disipate.What I saw for the first time,and I repeat I had to see it for myself to believe it,was this.If you picture the complete blue sky above you.Then draw verticle white trails going from east to west,"there were many of these trails",these begin to spread out.These didnt just appear they were being laid down.And then the interesting thing happened.Beginning on the eastern horizon and now traveling South to North the white trails began to cross the east & west trails,as this was happening it was producing a haze,the sky became more solid,as this progressed it became more solid.It was obvious to me that this was being produced and that it was not natural.****BUT****Dont take my word for any of this!!!!Start paying attention.This whole process took about 3 to 4 hours,by the time it was done there was no more blue sky,I was outside and could observe this and as I said I did not believe these reports that I have been hearing either.Look for yourself is my best advice but do look.As to the purpose it is unknown because by and large it is being denied.Amazing isnt it!!!Now I am not supposed to believe what my own eyes see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- jax (email@example.com), February 24, 2001.
Its very sad that the chemtrail theme has found its way back to Grassroots. Listen, jax - If you wear tinfoil on your head, then you'll be protected from the effects of the evil sprayers; works everytime; since we've found the solution to being "sprayed", its no longer an issue and so its not mentioned here anymore! DONE DEAL!
-- Guy Daley (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 24, 2001.
Sorry you were offended Guy.This is all new to me.I have only just now discovered this phenomal happening in the sky.If your view is the general view of the board you will not hear from me concerning it again.I thought I was doing a service to the community at large by reporting my experience.My apologies.
-- jax (email@example.com), February 24, 2001.
You did a good thing, Jax. Many people see and still refuse to believe what they're seeing.
I have been seeing these "trails" since late 1997. I live in South Louisiana and we have been hammered by this stuff, day after day for weeks on end. I live in a small community - NOT in an air corridor - and we see the lines and X's in what should be a clear sky. They expand until the sky is hazed over.
I have observed this "spraying" being done high in the sky ABOVE what would normally be rain clouds. In just a very short time, the rain cloud dissapates and all that remains is the haze. My thought is that they - whoever THEY are - are doing something to control moisture in the atmosphere. As I said, we have been sprayed quite a lot - and we are now into our third year of drought.
You may want to also check out this forum:
Best regards... Tee
-- Blanche Fleur (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 24, 2001.
I've beend watching Chemtrails for over two years. They are NOT contrails. They are often sprayed low (relative to Contrails) which are found about 20,000 feet. They are also sprayed in checkerboard and fan patterns; standard patterns used by the military for defoliation. Furthermore, contrails dissapate into the air within a matter of minutes, chemtrails will sometimes sit for hours, spreading out to blanket the sky. Watch them and you will see that CONSISTENTLY a highly sprayed sky will merge trails together into a gray crappy murkiness. They will turn a blue sky into muck every time. I happen to be outside with a straight arrow, guy the other day and I pointed to the sky, it was filled with checkerboarded chemtrails. Look at those I told him. He asked what they were and I told him what I have learned from Cliff Carnicom's site. I also said..."I guarantee you the beautiful sky you see now will be turned to murky gray crap this afternoon". Sure enough, two hours later when we came out of the building we were in; the sky looked like a totally different day. All the clear blue was gone, replaced by a yucky gray- green haze. This guy was convinced enough to go to Carnicom's site and do some reading and listening to audio. And, now he's VERY concerned. I suggest anyone interested in this strange phenomenon do the same thing.
-- meg davis (email@example.com), February 25, 2001.
Gee, I almost don't want to respond to this :( but I want now to know about this, Back in January of this year i stepped out around 10:30 in the a.m to walk out and get my mail..looked up, something I always do, nothing unusual.. and saw 3 of these things you are talking about, big, huge, but they were in some sort of a pattern, like one plane went by and another went through the previous planes cloud, trail, whatever you call it and it made what was like an x or an y or something.. maybe like a Y ??? Anyway, there were 3 of these Y or x things and they were real close, didn't say anything about it but wondered just a bit and then didn't think about it anymore... But just figured it was planes passing through other planes clouds (trials) or something..
-- Tess (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 26, 2001.
They are X's not Y's. They are being sprayed over every major city (and countryside in the US). Furthermore, they are reported in the UK, and Australia. It has been hypothosized that the X is being used as a "target" for some sort of satellite involvement in the project. I have never read where the X pattern is used in standard defoliation or pesticide type spraying, but (as I mentioned above) the grid pattern and the fan pattern are.
It is interesting to note that "weather warfare" is quite advanced in technology. Our govt. and no doubt others are capable of amazing feats (like moving storms with the help of the HARP project). Back in the early 70's the US signed treaties which outlawed the use of weather warfare for hostile use. That was the 70's!...THIRTY years ago. Rain making is child's play....yet, one might wonder why, when we had record dry spells and horribly devastating fires out West last summer, the idea of making a little rain never was brought up. Hmmmm.
It seems every day we have news of the "global warming", the devastating droughts and floods we can expect. A paranoid person might wonder what's up. Of couse, the CIA defines a "paranoid person" as "one who knows too much".
-- meg-abear (email@example.com), February 26, 2001.
I appreciate all the responses that have been given.It seems that there is something going on with regard to these jet trails.If I did not observe this myself I would not have believed it.This is all new to me as I have stated.Hopefuly this has provoked some of you to look for yourself.You have a right to think for yourself and to look for yourself and you should do both.It costs you nothing to observe the skys above you.I have only really observed this twice where I was actualy paying close attention.The process took a few hours to develop,when done there was a murky sky.This was not a natural clouding over,it was produced,and they were not normal clouds-they were murky.It is up to you what you do with this information.There are several boards that deal directly with this issue.I have read some of the posts there,many posters are a bit radical sounding,this is unfortunate, however it doesnt alter the facts.I hope this has stirred you to think *** and to look for yourself *** then and only then will your thoughts on this issue be your own *** not mine or anyone elses.Thank you for taking a moment to read this.Good will to all.
-- jax (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 26, 2001.