Hey whats up? a dont know how many differnt/variations their are, but a friend of mine had a tv card that whatever he was able to see on his monitor (did not matter what it was), he was able to run it out into his tv set and/or vcr to record. I asked him a shortime ago what his card was called and he said he was using the ATI all in wonder card. Now here are my questions for you: :) A: I would be looking for an external card hopefully using a usb port B: DOES this card truly output anything you see on your monitor? the main reason i want to ojmow is i would be using the card to record those films that are just online and i cannot download or "steal" them online (atomfilms.com, some ifilm stuff, etc) C: whuch ATI card should i go qith as im trying not to spend over $200. thanks again

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 13, 2001

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Hey whats up? a dont know how many differnt/variations their are, but a friend of mine had a tv card that whatever he was able to see on his monitor (did not matter what it was), he was able to run it out into his tv set and/or vcr to record. I asked him a shortime ago what his card was called and he said he was using the ATI all in wonder card. Now here are my questions for you: :)

A: I would be looking for an external card hopefully using a usb port

B: DOES this card truly output anything you see on your monitor? the main reason i want to ojmow is i would be using the card to record those films that are just online and i cannot download or "steal" them online (atomfilms.com, some ifilm stuff, etc)

C: which ATI card should i go qith as im trying not to spend over $200. thanks again

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 13, 2001.

I have the ATI All in one 32 MB card and it has tons of inputs and outputs, it has an s-video connection that could go to a TV, but I havenčt been able to make mine work yet and havenčt spent much time at it. I wonder if the output quality would be decent enough to record though. I think there might be an alternate way to grab these vids. Usually when you play them, the sites have to stick a copy of the file into cache, if you can grab it out of there after its done playing, you might be able to keep it. try it out.

tygrus

-- tygrus (tygrus2000@hotmail.com), February 13, 2001.

Hey Tygruss,

yeah i tried that method already along with quite a few others, in short of using a screen capture program. Sites like Atomfilms.com have most of their films as a streaming file meaning it buffers and loads as it plays along. It will not load up first then play (if it idi i could get it in the cache). I did make one method that did grab the vidoe only, but then i would have to do another thing for audio. running the file out to record then back in is probably the best option i can do. thanks for the info though

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 13, 2001.

Video capture should not be confused with the video out capability of a video card.

Many of the high end video display cards for PC's come with video out as standard. The video out these days is pretty much restricted to an s-video jack and an adapter cable for RCA jacks.

Video capture (with tuner)gives one the ability to capture video on a PC's hard drive from an external source (i.e., live camera, VHS, DSS, possibly DVD).

The ATI ALL in Wonder series of video cards have three functions, PC display, capture, output.

To enable video out, the PC display resolution needs to be set to 800x600 or 640x480 to get the TV out box in Display settings in the Control Panel to become highlighted. You will probably find that your output quality for output to TV or VCR will be best if the display is set to 640x480.

-- me (snake_mountain@hotmail.com), February 14, 2001.

One thing to keep in mind is that the ATI All in Wonder does come with Macrovision copy protection built into it. Be prepared to order a Macrovision descrambler if you get this card. Also, just as a side note, the capture feature of this card has a really bad tendenacy to encode a low stream of white noise in high action sequences. Usually it is pretty minor, but still very noticeable.

However to the credit of ATI, it does do a fantastic job on the TV tuner and on screen play from the input side of the card.

As for the ability to output from the web, I don't know if an external type of device would be fast enough. USB is somewhat limited when it comes to speed. You may be able to physically get the video out of your pc and into some kind of recordable medium, but the final output may be a little jerky at best, and totally unviewable at worst. But that is just a guess....

And yes this card will trully output anything you see on your screen.

The All in Wonder will run you close to $300. There are many features that the All in Wonder provides that may not suit your needs. For example - a built in tv tuner, a built in TiVo recorder, etc. ATI makes their 64 MB Radeon DDR available with in/out. That one runs closer to $200.

Definately stick with AGP though, some of the All in wonders come in PCI variations. AGP will give you more bang for your buck.

Hope this helps

-- Russell (attrofy@yahoo.com), February 14, 2001.

thankyou all for the info. I picked up today the ati all in wonder Radeon card. It cost me about 300$ but i am very happy with it as it not only runs stuff outto my tv (which is the main reason i wanted it), but it does capture mpeg 2 at 704x480. I am aware of its macro vision but i also own a Dazzle and using my method on that i get very good results,. I also have owned a macro-remover for my older vcrs so as far as capturing goes im in good shape. Hey isnt their a patch that fixes the macro thing with ati? Thanks again for all the info cant wait to fully start playing with this card--

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 15, 2001.

PS I did pick up the agp version of the card

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 15, 2001.

WOW!! this thing works great!! i had a full screen strwaming live video playing on m,y tv flawlessly with no problmes at all. Now if i can just get this stupid thing to pick up the sound when i run into it i will be all set

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 15, 2001.

How do i make the mpeg 1 capture tranfer to VCD 2.0 for the ATI 32 MB all and wonder.

-- Minh Nguyen (mnguyen45@hotmail.com), February 16, 2001.

If you are having a hard time getting a good TV output signal with your ATI card, the problem may be your cables (with RCA plugs}. I was getting a lot of interference so I got a heavy duty set of cables at Radio Shack and my TV output is now good.

-- Bob Lexington (bobfromri@usa.net), May 25, 2001.

I'm not sure what are the "real" minimum system requirements to get this card to work the way it should. My system is AMD 1.2MHZ, 512MB- DDR memory, Win2K, 80Gig-ATA100 hardrive. Man, I tell ya, this card is rock. I do all thing like pause live TV, record movie at best quality setting. None of those activities make my system freeze or bluescreen or anything. Everything is smooth and fast. 3D performance is excellent. Halflife and UnrealTournament is fast and good more than enough under my standard. I think if you can't afford a system like mine, don't choose this card. Man, think about it, if you run a PII 400mhz, 128mb-Sdram, hah! what do you expected ? the card won't replace the machine!!..good day

-- noLIE (ccao2@hotmail.com), July 19, 2001.

Question, on the Macrovison, it seems some video I can capture especially from tape, but some pick up the macrovision, is there a way around this?

THe best quality I got was capture to Mpeg, then used MS new encoder to convert to a .wmv file, it took 2.65g mpeg to 364mg, in 320 by 240 totally sweet quality. If I can get around macrovision, heck this would be great for me to move all my old video's to cd, especially old family home tapes and beta......Hint helps email me........thanks, RJ,,,

-- RomeoJett (romeojett@hotmail.com), August 14, 2001.

What the shit, ok. An if you are a Macintosh fairy you can get a firewire All-In-Wonder.. But that would be worthless because it would be and a mac and firewire... bleh... I suggest an All-In-Wonder Radeon 64mb which has MANY functions. It functions as a killer gaming card, a TELEVISION TUNER(duh!), video output (S-video/Composite), video input (S-Video/Composite), and a shotty webtv crack smoker... Ok, you can NOT NOT NOT capture everything! You must be at a lame 800x600 at best and some 3D shit wont show up... But, oh well.. So it does not matter if a video is streaming if you have a Fast I-Net con. Just play it in full screen mode 800x600 tv dsp on and record away.. Cmon guys, a little common sense.. if you can play the video on your PC you can CAPTURE it on the TV.. Call me crazy, but maybe thats why they call it a capture card? well, have fun and remember, if its a capture card, it is made to capture video...

-- Benny B (l0zt@mailcity.com), September 25, 2001.

All of the All-In-Wonders are great at out puting the video to the TV. Some take a little tweking with the centering size and distortion but just take some time and you will get it right (Do give up on haveing a perfect picture on the monitor and TV at the same time, if you montior isn't perfectly compatible it can't be done but its no big whoop). I use the Coax out to a VCR for the picture and then AV/RCA cables right out of my sound card into my VCR for sound. assuming there is no lag in your connection you can record a perfect live stream if you play at full screen(dont forget to move the mouse pointer out of the way). a couple things i have done on a T1 line look like i recorded off TV. Another plus to this is that it is perfectly leagle (assuming its not a bootleg movie or something along those lines, even then you have some wiggle room). even if the streaming file is encoded so you can't copy it to your computer, Broadcasting law apply to it which states you can record any signal comeing into your house for none profit personal viewing. Cable TV lost I big battle about this concerning Pay-Par-View movies. When they made the laws/rules they were vauge enough to allow for future media. the government has some law too about recording signals for record keeping and personal protection that I hear can apply to bootleg stuff assumeing you dont sell it, I have never found any offical stuff on it so I suspect it is just internet crap talk (in other words don't bank on it unless you do your reasearch). Recording from Atomfilm and sites like that is all good, internet only preview and clips is all good, if for some reason a studio wanted to live stream the premere of a movie that would be all good to record. I'm tired of typeing now...

-- Jay Mazz (mazzkicks@aol.com), March 18, 2003.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a program that you could download that will enable you to descramble the cable using an all in wonder or a tv wonder. thanks

-- Andy F. (abercrombie61986@comcast.net), March 11, 2004.