Excellent articles and arguments on the abortion issue

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Go to Leadership U. for very good articles and essays on abortion and the church's response to a culture of death.

http://www.leaderu.com

-- Anonymous, January 24, 2001

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Robin....

Just wanted you to know that I am still in the process of researching to what degree these "non estrogen" based pills are being dispensed and how widely used they are.

However....you will be happy to know that in my process of pre- marital counseling I have alerted two couples of these "RU 486 type" of pills and steered them away from them.

I have also made it clear to students in my college classes that a truly pro-life stance should reject this form of birth control.

Thanks for alerting me to this change that took place in the method of prescribing.

-- Anonymous, January 24, 2002


Just wondering....

It is my understanding that all types of Birth Control Pills (The Pill), except possibly one, work by having the uterine wall reject a FERTILIZED egg. If one believes that Life starts at conception, then doesn't one have to take the stand that The Pill causes abortion? There is not much difference between the use of The Pill and the new drug RU-486 (except intent, I suppose). The church is a Very vocal voice against abortion... but remains quite silent about the use of The Pill. Thoughts?

-- Anonymous, January 30, 2001


More:

BreakPoint with Charles Colson Commentary #020122 - 01/22/2002 Never Again: Abortion and a World that Never Was

"Never again!" abortion advocates intone. "Never again will women be forced to go to back-alley butchers and have abortions performed with coat hangers. Keep abortion legal and safe."

But that argument has one major flaw. "Never again" never was! Most of the scenario of what allegedly happened before the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision is fiction!

Pro-choice rhetoric claims that before Roe nearly a million women obtained illegal abortions each year, "performed with rusty coat hangers in back alleys" -- resulting in five to ten thousand deaths.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Bureau of Vital Statistics reports that only thirty-nine women died from illegal abortions in the year before Roe v. Wade. You need to go back to 1942 to find one thousand deaths, but remember, that's before antibiotics were available. Government data reveals that the reduction in deaths from abortion didn't result from making the procedure legal, but from antibiotics.

Then where do the abortion activists get "five to ten thousand deaths a year"? One source answers, "The claims . . . are based on inaccurately calculated extrapolations from flawed and erroneous data of the 1920s and 1930s." That is, they took inaccurate death rates before penicillin and multiplied them by the population growth after penicillin. It never added up.

And as co-founder of the National Abortion Rights Action League, Dr. Bernard Nathanson now acknowledges, math wasn't the primary reason for the inflated numbers. Nathanson, now a leader in the pro- life movement, says, "I confess that I knew the figures were totally false . . . But in the 'morality' of the revolution, it was a useful figure, widely accepted, so why go out of our way to correct it with honest statistics? The overwhelming concern was to get the laws eliminated, and anything . . . which had to be done was permissible."

What about the claim that nearly a million illegal abortions were performed annually? Dr. Frank Beckwith, Associate Professor of Philosophy, Culture and Law at Trinity Graduate School answers, "There is no reliable statistical support for this claim." One sophisticated study estimated that the number of abortions before legalization averaged about one hundred thousand per year. That's a far cry from "nearly a million."

And how many of those were performed by "back-alley butchers, with rusty coat hangers"? As far back as 1960, Dr. Mary Calderone of Planned Parenthood acknowledged that eighty-four to eighty-seven percent of all illegal abortions were performed by licensed physicians. Dr. Beckwith comments, "It seems that the vast majority of the alleged 'back-alley butchers' eventually became the 'reproductive health providers' of our present day."

As the website "roevwade.org" aptly says, "'Never again' never was." And as Dr. Beckwith contends, " . . . it would go beyond the duty of kindness to call such claims an exaggeration . . . the pro-choice movement was simply lying."

"Pro-choice" ideologues, and the moneyed interests behind the abortion industry, continue to circulate unsubstantiated claims. It's time to point out "Never again" never was -- and it's time to rethink our national position in the light of real facts.

For further reading:

"The Myth of Mass Back-Alley Abortion Deaths"

"More on Illegal Abortion Deaths"

"Light in Darkness: Womb with a View"

-- Anonymous, January 22, 2002


Robin -- I'm not sure what percentage of the pills are abortive in nature, but I do know that many are, and yes, we should preach against the use of these types of pills, as well as the IUD devices that do the very same thing. They are just a form of very early abortion, and many Christian women use these items, maybe without even knowing what they are doing.

ON A SIDE NOTE -- I returned late last night from Washington DC and the March For Life. I took my oldest son (Daniel, 9 years) with me. Of the tens of 1,000's of people marching, I would venture to guess that well over 90% were Roman Catholic, with some other Orthodox religions, and then the "evangelicls" for lack of a better term. It can safely be said that if it weren't for the RC's, there would not be a viable Right to Life movement in America today.

BUT -- the gentleman who opened the rally at the Washington Monument with prayer was a prof from Lincoln Christian College/Seminary ... though I did not catch his name.

-- Anonymous, January 23, 2002


The term "culture of death" was coined by the pope. The Catholic Church strongly opposes birth control because they are aborticants. The American Catholic Church is okay with barrier method birth control, in spite of what the pope says.

Here is another arena which the Catholics are active and the Protestants absent.

http://www.cogforlife.org/

I think the Protestant Churches need to give up their prudishness and get educated on the facts of life....and death.

-- Anonymous, January 26, 2002



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