37,800...now take away what the Villa took and then subtract from 52,000....that leaves?

It leaves the world's most passionate and loyal football following......doesn't it?

Did U go Ken???

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Answers

Shrimps 0 - Tractor Boys 3.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Oh eff off - it was still by far the highest attendance of the weekend. And the bottom line is that a lot of people just can't afford extra money besides season tickets. Fact of life, mate.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

whatever U say Douggie.....whatever you say :-)

still over 10,000 stayed at home....so that means NUFC have NO other fans that want to turn out other than yer "regular" 50,000.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

It doesn't mean any such thing - remember how many we were getting in the Worthington. The fact is, Newcastle got the highest attendance of the weekend at normal prices. Villa only brought about 1000 so we had about 36800 there.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

So that means you were OVER 10,000 down...more like 15,000 down. I bet there were loads of clubs on 3rd round day that were less than 15,000 down Ya see Douggie...it's all relative.

BTW..1000 Villa fans made a lot of noise as far as I heard :-)

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

It is a poor show, I quite agree, there looked more there but I lost count at 32,000. Friday night at the toon was a poor turn-out aswell, you would think that everyone wasn't loaded or summat. The obvious and unlikely silver lining is that the final tickets will be easier to get a hold of.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Top attendance of the day and infinitely more than Manure's attendances in the FA Cup last season. An interesting historical note here is that Newcastle also had the highest crowd of the day on the opening day of the Premiership - and we were in Div 1!!

Why does this subject ever get mentioned at all? I will say it time and again, we are the best fans because of the quality of the support not the quantity. It is well known that Manure has more "fans" than all other teams combined. That's what makes the vast majority of them ignorant prats who don't know where Manchester is. Manchester is also a very much larger city than Newcastle so comparisons on numbers alone are an irrelevance.

No - you want to compare fans? Chuck away attendance figures - look at how they behave when 5-0 down! The valiant Manure fans slunk away like whipped dogs from SJP. In Corporal Jones words "They don't like it up 'em". Not a peep was heard from them. Compare that to the noise made by United fans in the 0-5 against Arsenal. After every goal the pathetic strains of "You're not singing any more" (their first and only song, apparently) was immediately drowned out by "Newcastle, Newcastle". They didn't know what had hit them.

I don't give a monkey's how many follow Man Utd. Geordie fans have more passion, more identity with the place as much as the team, and have invested more of themselves in their team than any Manure fan.

A more accurate measure might be decibels raised per trophy won. We're light years ahead of everybody!!!!

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Tony..I agree that some can not afford it...but what about the thousands that can not get to League games?.....they must surley have dosh cos they haven't been all season :-)

It wasn't just U lot....the Mighty Liverpool attracted 23,000 homers ffs!!

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

I confessed to not going, Skint, and my credit card was full up. I,m gonna start saving my pennies for the Leicster game though.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Jonno - I wish you'd been at WHL last week. We were awesome - the Spurs players, stewards amd fans were watching us rather than the game - hence the coaching staff, subs and entire team coming over to applaud us. It is disappointing that there were so many spaces but 1st week of January plus having to pay on top of STs plus there being no trains south after the game (as I discovered to my cost) plus it being on telly (yes, that's a factor) accounts for it. Games which weren't televised and were on Saturday at 3pm had worse attendances. We also had more homers than last year in the first week of Jan - Sheff United brought about 4000 and we only had a capacity of 36000.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Jonno...there wasn't a single United fan that I know who wasn't 100% GUTTED at last year's farce....I was freakin' depressed come last term's 3rd round day..... How you can mention QUALITY and NUFC fans in the same sentence amazes me!!!...I've witnessed The Myth...and I watched yer game on Sunday too.....Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Jonno...let's not talk about the Manchester United fans who don't know where Manchester is...let's talk about the fans that DO know where it is....and who also know where every single away ground is and most of 'em even know about the home ends...as we infiltrate them too.

No one was comparing City size...like I said to Dougal..it's all relative....but then we do have two MASSIVE :-) clubs in Manchester..and anyway...no one from Manchester supports United so surely that's a tosh argument:-)

I'll tell you a little story too, about five nils....mid 80's away at Everton...5:0 down and singing our heads off...7,000 of us at least. The Toffees didn't have a scooby what we were doing...they all thought we were mad. Cut any ice?....Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...just like your fairy tales cut none with me.

Jonno,,,I've SEEN and HEARD yer famous atmosphere......Hans Christian Anderson couldn't tell it any better:-)

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

...lol...Douggie.....U could publish a book of excuses. :-)

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

LR, it's true. The atmosphere wasn't great by any stretch when you played but you were very average by PL away support standards and you should have been there for the Leeds game three days earlier - best atmosphere I've seen anywhere for about three seasons.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Our fans are better than Morecambe fans.........period!

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

LR, I'm a United fan & i thought it was funny that Manchester Heath weren't in it. No-one noticed after round three, it was just as if you were knocked out. Much as I am guilty as a stay away (TV - 600 mile trip work the next day is my excuse) Manure's end at Fulham did not seem full - I use the accepted model - if you can see the barriers on the terracing it's only about 75% full.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Getting our best FA Cup crowd for 23 years when the match was live on terrestrial telly and half the team was missing strikes me as quite respectable LR. And before you ask, yes I was there and so was my better half and so was my nephew. What do you reckon you'll get agains the Hammers? You'd better hope to God you sell out after all this!

Incidentally, how come Newton Heath were allowed to start in the competition on Saturday? I thought the FA rule was that if you didn't play in the previous year's competition you had to start in the first preliminary round along with Tipton Miners Welfare.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

"but you were very average by PL away support standards "

sounds like sour grapes to me Douggie....why?.....cos I know better, and so do the one or three mags on here that also commented on our performance that day. Songs?....how many?.... :-) Go ask the Sunderland or Watford or Leicester fans what the real United are all about :-)

Douggie let me tell you what happens when we come to town......all of a sudden the home team sell all their briefs. V's Man U...52K V's Villa...35K

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Errrrr....Freaky...wanna know WHY you got the impression that United's end at Fulham was not full?...TERRACING my friend...and err safety.

We were given 5000 terracing tickets...we SOLD 5000 terracing tickets.

BTW..did U see our banner? WATPOAE

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

That's the difference between winners and also-rans Jacko....things like that to you do seem acceptable, but not to us. Why do U think 62,000+ United fans turned out on Petrol night with the game on TV. If there was ANY game for a dougal then that was the game :-)

If we don't top 62,000 for the Hammers I'll eat my hat.

And don't try to get clever with me about why United started the compi. on SUNDAY and the FA rules...it was the freakin' FA that wanted us to go to Brazil. Fuck me....short term memory or mythical stupidity...I dunno!!

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Nice wind up LR. Yes we'd love to be 52000 for every game, but it was the highest crowd of the weekend by a long way.

Here goes ...... we didn't go, my wife was in California on business (it's tough), I'd have to find a day time baby sitter for my daughter, we are (relatively) broke after Xmas, the Sunday travel from Scotland is appalling at the best of times, it was on the box.

I am one of the missing 15000 (we are 2 of them). I'm not proud but I understand how it happens.

There is no way of proving what you lot would have got, and a 4th round tie is slightly more enticing, although it'll give a reasonable comparison. Away fixtures are completely different.

62000 for West Ham I feel is a bit ambitious, we'll see.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Ambitious Mac.....that's me :-)

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Look LR - if you can't take it, don't dish it out. You come on hear with an obvious wind up intending to provoke a response and as soon as someone has a little wind back, however infantile I agree, you have to resort to personal abuse and obscene language. Is that the best you can do? Not very gentlemanly is it me old fruit?

By the way, just so you continue to abuse me personally and give the others a rest, I've just got home from watching Port Vale in the LDV Vans Trophy Northern Section First Round against Notts County. The crowd was 1,919. That was me third game in four days. And quite frankly, I don't give a monkeys what you think about that.

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Jacko,

don't let it worry you. Jonno's point was about quality v quantity. It's a measure of the man that he resorts to infantile wind ups and i think he's proved the point countless times. He'll more than likely go on to prove it again after my posting...

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

>>>>>I am one of the missing 15000 (we are 2 of them). I'm not proud but I understand how it happens.

I really can't understand why anyone should feel the need to say this. You go to the games you want to go to with due regard to other commitments of work, home, children, health, finances etc. and whether we're likely to win something this year oohwaddagiveaway!

I'm reminded of that wonderful line in the Play, "Close the Coalhouse Door". Geordie is asked if he saw the match on Saturday, to which he replies -
"Nurr - th' nivvor came te see me when aa was bad."

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Jesus, LR throws a bone and you all bite. When are you going to learn. (Large key in middle of back, give it a twist and see them get wound up.)It appears it works for the Lanky one every time. ;-))

-- Anonymous, January 09, 2001

Dear Jacko....please direct me to where it was I slung personal abuse and I'll see what I can do about an apology. I've searched and searched and can not for the life of me find it......and if as you say, you've attended 3 games in 4 days.....me TYPING the word "fuck" must surely pass over your head as easily as a trophy opportunity passes Newcastle United.....what with the language HEARD at football matches y'know! C'ya :-)

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Jonno....any news on the American landing on Tyneside yet?

BTW....I never made it to Fulham on Sunday anyway ......lol

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Jonno...just noticed this line from you...."You go to the games you want to go to " etc etc etc

This isn't the same for most fans of United..we go to games cos we have to...not want to. That's the way The Religion is.

WATPOAE

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

If you can't get a crowd in when you're winning everything going, them I don't know when you will.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

very true Douggie....but we got 'em when we were not winning everything as you put it....

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Probably not many more than 37000 thousand, though, and that was in the days of massive away attenadnces.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Our fans are better than yours na na na na na!!!! God wot a load of tosh. Its like the Where were U when U were sh1te, Well we are still sh1t and were still here. We have averaged No Less than 17,000 every season since the war, and that INCLUDES the times when foorty went through the unpopular stages and us in Div2.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

"please direct me to where it was I slung personal abuse"

Well mate, if you don't know it must be you who is mythically stupid. Or is it just that folk from your part of the world have never learnt how to talk to each other in a civil manner?

"me TYPING the word "fuck" must surely pass over your head as easily as a trophy opportunity passes Newcastle United.....what with the language HEARD at football matches y'know!"

Yes I'm used to hearing it all the time. Yes I hear it at football matches. And yes, I hear it from young kids in the playground. We hear it on the telly, cinema, everywhere in fact. That doesn't mean that I have to accept it as standard English.

Why do people like you goodself use the word? Is it to shock? Surely not, because you assume from your posting that no one could possibly be shocked by it. Is it to make you sound like a big boy? No, same applies as above. Is it because everyone uses it now and it has become an accepted part of the language? I think not - my Mam, bless her heart, would still clip me round the ear 'ole if she were alive today and heard me say it. Do you use the expression in "polite company"? (Perhaps you never are). So why do you use it - is it just to demonstrate the limited nature of your vocabulary? Now that one I can believe!

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

I have this vision of LR on a weekday evening. He's sat behind his computer, posters of Harley Davidsons and David Beckham on the wall, nodding his head to Status Quo, whilst he studiously reads attendence figures . He ignores the Coventrys and the Leicesters, laughs at Ipswichs and Bradfords, but pays great attention to Liverpools, Leeds, and ours. Everytime they dip below capacity he smiles, punches the air, and gets on the internet to wind the respective clubs fans up. Then, cracking open a tin of Carling Black Label, he sits back smug in the knowledge he is one of the loyalist and most passionate football supporters in England. Well the stats 'prove' it don't they?

Yawn LR, I've read this sort of thread at least a dozen times. Isn't this sort of gloating just a wee bit pathetic?

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Stevo - he must have left his webcam on - you really shouldn't be looking!

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

NO KENNY...I have never said our fans are better than yours..THAT is childish....I just find it piss funny that this here forum..backslap.com...likes the trumpets blown about how great the Toon Army is...when it's clearly not. CLEARLY not. Silent for long long periods of games...non-existent when John Logie Baird's boys are in town.

In fact, it's the Geordie fans who regularly tell the country and each other how much better thay are than the rest of us.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Off yer high horse Jacko...no amount of self righteous lecturing from you will make me blush. Yeah I curse...who doesn't? In general on here I'll type fcku...NO ONE complains but they ALL know what it means.....naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, but YOU have to chuck the baby outa the pram blah blah blah. Tell ya what Jacko...stick to sixth form poetry and whimsical mythical hippyism and errr.....Port Vale...or wil it be Stoke City next season :-)

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Tell ya what Stevo...you stop telling the footballing world how great you are,........and I'll stop disproving it :-)

You wanan do yerself a favour mate and look around some other sites....they all at some time or other have commented on the Toon Army..and the shroud of Arthuresque mystery that goes hand in hand with it.

I rip the piss outa Liverpool too....don't bother with Ipswich or any of the others you mentioned cos they don't proclaim to be owt special.

WE don't proclaim to be owt spewcial...or we didn't ...until EVERY man and his dog comes out with the same old boring shite about us....prawn munchers......glory hunters...cockneys etc etc etc.

Dish it out Stevo and accept it back...that's what I say.

BTW....Harleys ain't my brew...either are posters.......but I do nod me 'ead to the odd bar or twelve from time to time.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Hey LR you still sportin' that handlebar moustache or what???????????

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Eeee LR! You'll be telling me next you couldn't see the personal abuse in that posting either.

Why am I on a "high horse" when I express an opinion about the use of bad language? Yes I swear, but I don't do it to people I've never met (although in your case I might just make an exception) but just because you admit to doing something which isn't actually very pleasant doesn't make it the right thing to do does it? I may be wrong, you see I'm not sure I understand "laddish" culture but there you go - too old I suppose.

What has my job got to do with anything by the way and why do you make such infantile assumptions about what it involves and how I do it? Has your job got any bearing whatsoever on your postings on this board?

What has my affinity to another club as well as Newcastle got to do with this discussion?

Do you sit at home each night thinking about different things you can say to try to upset Geordies or does being such an unpleasant character come naturally to you? Would you speak to me like that if you met me in a pub or is it just the anonymity of the computer that makes you behave so offensively? When people ask me why I don't like Manchester United fans I always think of you before answering - I don't know why.

Are you really as horrible as you try to make out or are you just someone seeking excitement by attempting to create cyber-conflict?

Are you indeed, not a real person at all but a computer virus? Is this the reason why you never answer a question?

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

More like a walrus that a handlebar methinks:

LR on the left, Rik on the right.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

WE don't proclaim to be owt spewcial...or we didn't ...until EVERY man and his dog comes out with the same old boring shite about us....prawn munchers......glory hunters...cockneys etc etc etc.

Dish it out Stevo and accept it back...that's what I say.

Didn't claim to nowt special! Oh come off it LR. I went to a comp. in West Yorkshire in the 70s and 80s half full of self proclaimed Man Utd fans. The rational seemed to be that every wretched little glory- hunter was for Liverpool, so much so that it was becoming a bit passe and boring. Better Man Utd, an alternative big club, bound to win something sooner or later (ring any bells LR?). Preferable to the evil NF sods who were into Leeds (fair point). The less plastic amongst their ranks were always wittering on about the Stretford End, Norman Whiteside, and how 'they' were actually the biggest club in the land and would one day claim their rightful place. The rest of us soon aquired a loathing for their arrogance, and ability to attract dozens of hangers-on who had apparently only the vaguest familiarity with the game of football. (I was completely alone in my black'n'white fixation incidently). Besides wasn't it your club captain who started complaining about the prawn-sandwich brigade?

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

At this juncture I should point out how fond I am of prawns and seafood in general, please don't feel ill of me.

Why don't you think we are the best supporters then LR, c'mon you must think we are a bit special.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Job?..lol..where did I mention your job?....please don't tell me you teach poetry to 17 year olds...

....if you wanna know how I talk to people in the pub why don't you ask some of them.

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Rings no bells at all Stevo..nice little story though......I once saw a play on the telly a bit like that mind....'twas called Man United ruined my life....justified as it goes because it was about a Manchester City fan...but what's your excuse?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh..Roy Keane....the club captain from a humble background who thanks to the "prawn munchers" earns around 60,000 pounds a week but can't find it in himself to acknowledge his fantastic support at the end of a game home, away or abroad....yeah..as if a man like that is gonna get my respect. As long as he plays football well I'm clap and cheer the guy...off the pitch I think very little of him.....not fit to lace Robbo's boots.

next!

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

Tony...the best supporters would turn out even if the game was on the telly wouldn't they?...after all...how is screaming "Toon Army" at the box gonna help rally the troops when yer one down against Aston Villa?

BTW...the thread was only a ........ :-)

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

You manage it every time don't you LR ? You only need to hold up a tiny mackerel and, however smelly it really is, the seagulls on here come squawking after your trawler every time eh ? ;o)) If only I could do the same with the lasses ... !

-- Anonymous, January 10, 2001

You know LR, if you kept your mouth shut people might THINK you were daft. Every time you open it, you leave them in no doubt whatsoever! ;-)

-- Anonymous, January 11, 2001

Loony.....and I can usually guess who'll follow ze trawler.....Oui?

-- Anonymous, January 11, 2001