Bassedas

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How much did we pay for this lad? and why are we not using him yet? he has been match fit for a while. Acuna has three games in a week, I think the link between the two will be great. Barton doesn't expect to come straight back in does he?

-- Anonymous, November 06, 2000

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Syme, I posted a few weeks ago on this subject (Midfield Minefield) and your opinions mirror what I am trying to get across, I feel the problem if there is one, cos I can just go on the regulars report is the continued selection of Lee and Speed in the midfield area and then fitting in the likes of Solano and Dyer around them with Gallagher and Glass awaiting the call, Acuna and Bassedas appear to be the next double act but the fact that YBR has to address which is basically the best four man formation, the one which will create the right balance between attack and defence, I do not feel that he is any closer to achieving this, with the tough matches ahead and inclement weather for our South American players its my guess he will be reluctant to change things around. Nov/Dec will be a time to grind out results to lead us into the New Year, Gallagher should play alongside Shearer for work rate alone,read Softies report on Dyer was interesting , if a guy is going through the motions, not putting in tackles etc this can have a unsettling effect on the rest of the team who may have less ability but are putting in a hard shift to compensate. To summarise IMHO that YBR has made a rod for his own back with his midfield buy`s and also his reluctance to either rest/drop, Dyer, Lee, Speed,

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

Bassedas hasn't played for seven months and there is no point in rushing him back like we did with Barton when there is cover available. Bobby says he hasn't picked his best team yet because he hasn't included Bassedas, which speaks mountains for the lad.

After the trouble we went through to sign him I expect Bobby will play him when he is fully match fit.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000


Good point about Gallacher, I don't think we can afford to have both Lua Lua and Dyer in the same side, but I think we could easily play Gallacher and Lua. We would still have the pace and have a very committed player with high work rate AND be prepared to shoot. Thoughts...

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

Metro Radio are saying Bassedas will come in for Solano on Saturday.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

I would be a bit suprised if Bassedas is asked to play wide. They tried him on the left in the USA and he wasn't very good. I think they'll wait till either Lee or Speed is injured / banned so that he can play in his favoured central role. Gavilan is back in training, I fancy him to start, or even Griff playing in Nobbies position.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000


If Bassedas is in there, he'll probably be alongside Speed and Acuna because we will need to battle it out with Lennon, Savage and Izzet. Make no mistake if we are to beat Liecester we will have to beat those three, no matter how good we think they aren't, they form an excellent three.

They play three at the back as well I think so this should be a fairly well balanced game. Dyer or maybe even Gallagher in the hole behind the front two will be the most likely outcome, leaving us with no width unless Griffin or Domi get forward enough.

IMHO that is why we suffer against teams who pack the midfield because there are two ways to beat that. Over the top or round the back and over the top isn't really going to work with the likes of Elliott.

Hopefully, Lee can move intelligently into midfield when necessay releasing Gary Speed to come in at the far post a few times as Leicester will be stumped at that.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000


I would expect Griffin to come in at RB for Solano whether BR opts for 3-5-2 or 4-4-2. However, Bobby may be reluctant to drop Caldwell after his recent performances, not to mention that the back four of Hughes...Caldwell...Goma...Domi looked pretty good on Saturday.
As for width, other teams achieve width from their FB's or WB's so why can't we? Domi has to provide the width on the left, irrespective of the formation, and is certainly good enough to do so. Griffin is more of a traditional FB but can also be fairly effective going forward.
Apparently Barton is back in training so he could also come into the reckoning although I'd much prefer to see him prove his fitness in the Reserves first.
So, if either Caldwell or Griffin are the replacement for Solano, Bassedas may have to wait a while longer for his full debut.
Personally, I'd play Bassedas alongside Lee and Speed and either leave Acuna out, or play YKD up front with Shearer and leave Cordone out.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

not sure about Lee as a sweeper in this one. Akinbiyi will skin him for pace at every turn.

We need to pack the midfield and match them man for man, tackle for tackle, commitment for commitment.

4-5-1 for me.....

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000


Akinbiyi's second touch is a tackle!

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

I'd like to get Glass back in the team. We need more crosses from the left and he can certainly provide that. I feel that Glass is a little underestimated, he deserves the chance. But it's not easy to compose a midfield any longer, there's so much quality. Could be exciting with Gavilan and Dyer operating on the right for the Leicester- match. who knows?

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000


I'm with you min.
I'd play YKD just behind AS, with Lee, Speed, Acuna and Bassedas in midfield. I'd play Griffin, Hughes, Goma and Domi at the back and tell Domi to get forward up the left at every possible opportunity.
This could provide 4-5-1 when they've got the ball, and 3-5-2 when we've got it. Looks solid.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

I am so happy I started this thread coz i have no idea what I am talkin' about.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000

Im starting to think Lee with a sweeper formation is a bad idea. Good thing is though its an alternative for YBR when he needs it.

Its time to stop thinking Dyer should be an extra man in midfield just cos hes better than any left winger we have as alternative. Of course hes better than Glass/Domi in midfield but from a teams point of view we need a left side...if only to stop opponents doubling up on our right and to get the best out of our left sided defender. Its all too easy for our opponents at times cos they know exactly where were likely to attack from i.e right.

Im very much for a solid central midfield, Glass(even Domi or the up and coming Dimas) on the left and then the right wing shared between Nobby+Dyer. Dyer isnt coping with the free role yet and I think wed get much more out of him in a 30 min burst 2nd half. A proper 4-4-2 could work great espec if Acuna/Bassedas turn out to be 'creative'- Speed has many good qualities but creativity isnt one of em.

-- Anonymous, November 07, 2000


I think Bobby will see Acuna and Bassedas as the central pairing for a few years to come. Well balanced and we have a ball winner who likes to pass the ball for once.

I agree we must get the left wing sorted out, someone has to play there to start making Domi effective again. Domi will be anxious not to get too far forward in fear of leaving the defence exposed, can't blame him for that.

Ditch the free role.

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2000


Mt attempts to defend Dyer against the critism he had levelled at him for his game vs Ipswich (BBS wouldn't let me post) had much the same views on this free role malarky. I feel he does not have the experience to compliment his talent and thus often runs into a brick wall. Lua Lua will suffer this handicap aswell. Premiership sides already know what these players are capable of and what they can do to minimise the threat but when their passing is on song it is indeed a beautiful game.

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2000


It's good to see us talking about options for once. At this stage it's difficult to see what our best midfield will be, as we have come nowhere near to trying out all the variables. But we have options, and we have flexibility. Acuna has started well. We've still to see what Bassedas can produce, and we have Gavilan waiting in the wings. Speed and Lee have been solid professionals for us for a good while. We are no longer 100% reliant on them, but by the same token they still have a lot to offer. Speed's contribution to the goal tally last season was first class, and having one, perhaps two other midfielders sharing defensive, ball winning and distribution duties, he may again be freer to venture forward. Although lacking in width, a midfield of Acuna, Bassedas, Speed, Dyer and Solano could dominate a game, BUT we would need a healthy goal contribution from all of them to take the excessive burden of Shearer or whoever is playing effectively alone upfront. On the width issue, isn't Bassedas left-footed? Obviously Speed is too. We might not have outright pace , but I see no reason why we can't use the full width of the pitch IF the aforementioned feel comfortable enough to leave the central area of control in the good hands (or feet) of others. In the past you felt that if Speed, say, ventured to far wide, we'd never win the possession of the ball to make it worthwhile. Hopefully in Acuna and Bassedas we have players who will do their fair share of graft in midfield, AND be able to do something with the ball

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2000

No other option for it, I will have to agree with Windy. :o)

What is wrong with EITHER Nobby or YKD on the right, Acuna and Bassedas in the middle and Speed on the left?

Speed is left footed, one of our quicker players and can time his runs to the far post for the crosses from the right.

He has been needed in the middle, but now that we have cover why can he not be used wide left?

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2000


Just remember Gus that GS played wide left for us when he first came here - he was sh*te; too slow.
In fact, he's actually been playing left-side of m/f recently, and has not shown his best form from last season.

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2000

I think Speed is suffering a bit because our game has altered somewhat. Last season the lack of options in front of goal allowed us to play for corners secure in the knowledge that Shearer, Ferguson, Dabizas and Speed would be strung across the 6 yard box. Nobody could afford to ignore Al and Dunc, so Dabs and Speed would normaly be better in the air than the remaining markers.

This season we are still playing for corners when we run out of ideas but are scoring precious few goals from the tactic. Nobby's crossing ability which had looked so good on paper because of the number of assists he was getting has been exposed as somewhat suspect when he now has a choice of only 2 serious threats to aim for (Goma, Hughes and Domi try but aren't in the same class yet). We are now looking more dangerous in open play than at set-pieces (really!) but need more players willing to have a pop. Bobby knows this better than anyone though, if my reading of lips and body language is anything to go by.

-- Anonymous, November 08, 2000


Yes clarky he still is shite.

However he has 2 new central midfielders, a new left back and a new striker to deal with as well.

The number of players used and the combinations mean that anyone on the left will need a couple of games to settle in. Even if they have been at the club for a couple of years.

-- Anonymous, November 09, 2000


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