How can this be? What is it about 8 years of prosperity that apparently disagree with so many?

-- What's up with that (need@nswer.please), November 01, 2000

Answers

I guess we're tired of being TAXED TO DEATH...what good is prosperity when 40% of it goes back to the government for thousands of wasteful programs that produce no results? Under George BushBs plan, a family earning under $35,000 a year pays no federal income taxes. . . a 100% tax cut. Earn 35 to 50 thousand? A 55% tax cut. Real money for YOU in YOUR pocket...

Gore is proposing three times the new spending President Clinton proposed . . . wiping out the entire surplus, and creating a deficit again...and once again...it would come out of OUR pockets.

-- Here's what's up wit dat! (OneAnswer@coming.up), November 01, 2000.

Yea, I'm tired of having to worry about what the most ethical administration in the history of the United States is going to do next.

-- Uncle Bob (unclb0b@aol.com), November 01, 2000.

So, tell me, what IS in store for those of us in the 65,000 to 80,000 a year income range?

This ENQUIRING mind wants to know.

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), November 01, 2000.

DAVENPORT, Iowa (AP) - Al Gore denied on Monday that he had smoked marijuana regularly, even daily, with a Tennessee friend as late as 1976 as the man now contends.

The question came up when a reporter said to Gore at a diner: ``It's been reported that after you came back from Vietnam you were smoking on a daily basis.''

Gore responded, ``No. When I came back from Vietnam, yes, but not to that extent. ... This is something I dealt with a long time ago. It's old news.''

Gore said in 1987, during the 1988 presidential campaign, that he had used marijuana on infrequent occasions, the last time about 1972.

The Tennessee man, John Warnecke, was quoted by the online magazine Salon. He said he had covered up for Gore in the past but wanted to set the record straight.

-- Oh Wow Man (GoreIS@aPOT.head), November 01, 2000.

"We are about to elect...". Throwing in the towel are we? LOL, this is getting better by the hour.

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), November 01, 2000.

Glad you asked that question Sumer,...

George Bush plans to cut the maximum tax rate for the middle class to 25 percent (versus the current maximum rates of 28 and 31 percent). Also he will greatly reduce the marriage penalty by restoring the 10 percent deduction for two earner families, allowing them to deduct up to an additional $3,000.

And here's one YOU'll like too...he will double the child tax credit to $1,000. Sumer...MORE money in YOUR pocket...not going to another government program. I don't know about you all, but I'm sick and tired of having my tax dollars wasted on a myriad of stupid government PROGRAMS that I have yet to see make any difference in our country. (remember who funded the study of cow farts on our environment?)

-- Just for you, Sumer Honey! (Answers@the.ready), November 01, 2000.

Oh and you forgot about Al Gore the traitor GORE/CLINTON FINANCED BY COMMUNIST's); Gore the "Enviromentalist/Campaign Fundraiser" gag ENVIRONMENTALISTS SAY GORE BACKED CONTROVERSIAL MALL IN RETURN FOR CAMPAIGN CASH ; Gore the oil baron SALE OF FEDERAL OIL FIELD BOOSTS GORE FORTUNE and finally Gore the slumlord Inept Landlord & Administrator

-- Ain't Gonna Happen (Not Here Not@ever.com), November 01, 2000.

Personally I'm quite happy that we've had many years of relative prosperity in spite of Clinton and his policies. And if we elect Harry Browne we'll be practically certain to increase it.

-- eve (eve_rebekah@yahoo.com), November 01, 2000.

"Yea, I'm tired of having to worry about what the most ethical administration in the history of the United States is going to do next."

Are you deeply worried that Gore may get a hummer like Clinton did? Don't get angry Bob, some guys are just luckier than you.

-- (bob@wants.hummer), November 01, 2000.

No, we're worried Gore WON'T get a hummer...! LOL

-- Gore Isn't Human (DOE!@a.deer), November 01, 2000.

I don't know that I'd bet the farm on either of them keeping all their campaign promises. Remember, neither can do much unilaterally -- they've got 535 roadblocks to consider, every one with a hand full of "gimmie" and a mouthful of "much obliged." Don't spend all that money you think you'll be saving in taxes just yet.

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), November 01, 2000.

**Why are we about to elect a former alcoholic cokehead**

This does show that he's human, if it's at all true. Not really fair to judge someone on mistakes of the past, as we have all been there (most anyway). I would also surmise that that statement is a huge exageration (sp), like most of the political mud slinging is.

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), November 01, 2000.

So, perhaps Al Gore smoked marijuana "as late as 1976"? Let's see... [counts fingers and toes...runs out of fingers and toes...starts over] ...only 24 years ago!

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), November 01, 2000.

I applied for a warehouse job once upon a time. After the initial game of "20 questions" the interviewer gave me an address and some paperwork. She asked me pointedly if I had any problems with taking a drug test. I said "no problem, is it essay, multiple choice, or we talking identify by sight, taste, touch?"

The wise ass did not get the job.

I have no problem with a sitting president smoking a joint or having a cocktail now and again. From what I understand JFK used strong painkillers. Regardless of the intended use of pain medication - recreation or relief of symptoms - one's judgment will be altered while under the influence.

Rich

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), November 01, 2000.

Bingo, LOVED the response for the interviewer. (looks around and commits this to memory, uh, whats left anyhow)

Proof, show me the proof that any of them are herbal enjoyers, cokeheads, and alkies.

IS Bush in some type of program? Howz bout Al?

Imho, I find nothing at all wrong with herbal use for medicinal purposes and it supposed to help the eyesight.

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), November 01, 2000.

I have not heard anybody say they were going to vote for me, yet.

-- FutureShock (gray@matter.think), November 01, 2000.

Put your lip back in, ya big baby. The future of the free world hangs in the balance. For shame.

You could try simple bribes. I'm pretty easy.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), November 01, 2000.

Uncle Bob wants a Hummer...

-- Uncle Bob (unclb0b@aol.com), November 01, 2000.

You have it from the horses mouth about George W's drinking.

By Jake Tapper

Nov. 01, 2000 | SAN JOSE, Calif. -- The man is crying.

It's Gov. George W. Bush's last campaign stop in California, and instead of an ocean of rah-rahs and the three-fingered "W" sign his fans make by thrusting out their three middle fingers, Bush has chosen instead to come to a house of God. We're at CityTeam Ministries, a privately funded addiction program and homeless shelter -- which Bush is heralding as an example of the kind of faith-based program he thinks government should be helping to fund -- and in the midst of the tour, one of the recovering addicts starts crying.

The drama begins when Bush walks into a room where two of the addiction program's residents are playing table tennis while four others watch.

"I got a heckuva forehand," Bush says as he shuffles in with his wife, Laura.

"Let's see," says one of the men.

"Not that good," Bush jokes. The place erupts with laughter. "What's happening here besides a hot Ping-Pong game?" Bush asks. He sits down between two of the men, on the arm of a sofa.

"We're living for Christ here," says Mark Meeuwissen, 27.

"That's good," Bush says.

Meeuwissen, a resident for 16 months, immediately begins telling of his attempts to follow God's way. An added bonus, he says, is that "being here, we get to meet you."

"That may not be the top prize," Bush laughs. He has kept his presidential opponent, Al Gore, crisscrossing the country on defense this week, trying to shore up support in states he'd never expected to be close. Bush, meanwhile, has been the cock of the walk, prancing and mugging and dancing like a mid-'80s NFL receiver in the post-TD end zone. But CityTeam brings out a strong humility, which the men seem to respond to.

"Thank you for sharing that with us," Bush tells Meeuwissen when he finishes speaking, patting him on the arm. He turns to his right where Dominadur Limosnero, 31, sits, and asks him to tell his story. As Limosnero begins, Bush turns back to Meeuwissen, winks and pats him on the arm.

It doesn't take long before Limosnero starts sobbing. It's unclear if this is because he's nervous, or especially fragile, or supremely comfortable in Bush's presence -- or, most likely, a stirring combination of all three. But Limosnero, a recovering alcoholic and former drug-addicted gang member, says, "The Lord opened the door for me here ... I'm just sick and tired of gangs and you know, everything."

Bush and two other residents pat the man's arms and back reassuringly.

"I love it here," Limosnero says. "It's a better life." There's a pause.

"That's about as powerful a statement as you can get," Bush says. "That's why we're here. God bless you."

"OK," Bush says, calling an end to the proceedings. It turns out that the "OK" just applies to the media.

And as the dozen of us in the Ping-Pong room are escorted into the next room, Bush takes a moment alone with the men. I linger and try to eavesdrop.

"I appreciate your testimony," Bush says sincerely, no cameras or reporters around.

"You're a man," he reassures Limosnero.

It's recovery-speak with a born-again foundation. He tells them how important it was that members of the media heard their testimony, but before I can hear why that is, a Bush press aide pulls me away.

This is the most appealing side of Bush, the side that honestly seems to care -- about addicts, about kids in failing schools. The side that has taken away the substantial edge Gore once had with female voters. If every voter could see this display, Bush could put this election away for good.

You can't dismiss Bush's ample heart as a campaign strategy. Marvin Olasky, one of Bush's main advisors on "compassionate conservatism," once told me that Bush "has the view that people can change. And one reason I suspect he has that view is that he changed himself, through God's grace." Indeed, Bush touches on this himself in his Tuesday speech on faith-based programs, before the CityTeam crowd and assorted Silicon Valley guests. "I quit drinking in 1986, and I haven't had a drop since then," Bush says. "And it wasn't because of a government program, by the way. It was because I heard a higher call."

His compassion seems to extend to the borders of what he himself has gone through. But how far beyond?

Olasky says Bush is good when speaking to recovering addicts because "he can identify because of the change he himself" went through. Just as his personal struggle has manifested itself in greater empathy for less fortunate addicts, the visit to CityTeam provides insight into the limits of Bush's compassion.

Within a minute or so after I catch snippets of Bush's private thanks and reassurance to the CityTeam residents, Bush and his wife come into the billiards room, and his dedication to his evangelical Christianity -- which I found moving just minutes ago -- gives me the willies. He starts again with his standard-issue guy-schmooze.

Laura's "a heckuva pool player," he tells us, before getting serious.

"We just had a powerful testimony next door about this program," he says. "The state ought to welcome programs such as this that change people's lives." He talks about true change and recovery. "Government can't do that," he says.

But how, he is asked, will a group like CityTeam get funding without running into obstacles created by the separation of church and state? Bush says that the church can't be the state, and the state can't be the church.

"The danger is that government causes a program like this to lose its mission," Bush says. "A lot of programs say, 'I don't want to touch government money because the bureaucracy will come in and force us to take the picture off the wall.'"

He motions toward a painting of Jesus.

"What I'm saying is we're not going to let that happen."

Just as Bush is able to engage so effectively with the residents who are fellow born-again recovering addicts, he seems unable to understand why someone who doesn't believe in Jesus wouldn't want tax dollars going into proselytizing Christian activities. He similarly didn't get it when he opposed the recent Supreme Court decision that denied Christian public school students the right to force their prayers into the ears of everyone who attended their Friday night football games. These are not examples of intolerance or cruelty as much as, apparently, just witlessness.

A few weeks ago, Washington Post reporter Terry Neal, an African-American, was sitting on the Bush campaign plane listening to his Walkman.

Bush came to the back of the plane and approached him, in front of a number of other reporters.

"Whatcha listenin' to?" Bush asked Neal. "Some rap?"

Neal now will only say that he and Bush generally get along well, and that, no, he wasn't listening to rap. But the issue seemed to speak to a larger ignorance -- the self-contained cluelessness of a man who makes it to 54 without realizing it might be offensive to assume that an African-American wearing a Walkman is probably listening to Snoop Doggy Dogg.

The incident is not unique. About three weeks ago, Ron Claiborne of ABC News was getting off the Bush campaign plane.

"Hey, Bill," Bush said, referring to Claiborne by the name of CBS News' Bill Whittaker.

Whittaker has a mustache, Claiborne doesn't. Whittaker has black hair, Claiborne's hair is gray.

Whittaker has been covering Bush for more than a year, Claiborne since Labor Day. Both, however, are black.

These are not stories that damn Bush as contemptible, but they do suggest a man with limited experience with people -- at least people not just like him.

There's also Lynn Novick, a co-producer of Ken Burns' PBS series "Baseball," who had the rare treat of accompanying Bush to a Texas Rangers game in the summer of 1994, before he was elected governor. "He was a very gracious host," Novick says. "He was perfectly pleasant. Until he changed the subject."

Bush mentioned something about Yale University, from which he graduated in 1968. Novick graduated from Yale in 1983, so she brought it up, thinking it would be "like a bonding thing."

"When did you graduate?" Bush asked her, as she recalls. She told him. That's when Bush told her that Yale "went downhill since they admitted women."

"I said, 'Excuse me?'" Novick says. "I thought he was kidding. But he didn't seem to be kidding. I said, 'What do you mean?'"

Bush replied that "something had been lost" when women were fully admitted to Yale in 1969, that fraternities were big when he'd been there, providing a "great camaraderie for the men." But that went out the window when women were allowed in, Bush said.

"He said something like, 'Women changed the social dynamic for the worse,'" she says. "I was so stunned, shocked and insulted, I didn't know what to say."

She says two things offended her the most: "That he would think that, but almost more so that he would say that to a woman who went to Yale."

So the question is raised: Just how compassionate is Bush? Many of the female reporters on the Bush campaign press plane -- ones who like Bush, generally -- don't think the candidate is capable of relating to them as he does with their male counterparts.

He does indeed seem more capable of turning on his famous "charm," when he's dealing with a man, usually a white man and especially a white man from Texas who can talk about baseball.

Bush, on the other hand, is supposed to be the charming guy, the "compassionate conservative," the one who will bring people together. But his inability to comprehend those not like him --

like, say, gays and lesbians, the underclass, Jews, those offended by the race- and gay-baiting shenanigans of his and his allies' South Carolina campaign -- make this task seem all the more Herculean.

This has, of course, reared its head before. There was Tucker Carlson's article in Talk magazine last year that recounted Bush's callous mocking of the death row pleas of Karla Faye Tucker.

His constant campaign smiles when asked about the death penalty even led to one question during the third presidential debate about why he always seemed so "gleeful" when talking about capital punishment. And of course, his clumsiness and seeming indifference toward the family of James Byrd Jr. suggests, at least, a discomfort that would suggest his abilities as a racial healer may not extend much further than the multi-culti pageantry of the Republican Convention.

We know Bush can be a compassionate man, but the question continues to be over how far his "armies of compassion" extend past his own honest, but narrow, life experiences. But we know at least this much: Wealthy people and born-again addicts need not be concerned.

Oliver Willis

owillis@yahoo.com

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-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), November 01, 2000.

Not exactly sure what youre trying to accomplish by posting that Cherri, but it makes me a bit more fond of Bush. =)

-- cin (cin@cin.cin), November 01, 2000.

cin, how can that article make you more fond of Bush?

There's also Lynn Novick, a co-producer of Ken Burns' PBS series "Baseball," who had the rare treat of accompanying Bush to a Texas Rangers game in the summer of 1994, before he was elected governor. "He was a very gracious host," Novick says. "He was perfectly pleasant. Until he changed the subject."

Bush mentioned something about Yale University, from which he graduated in 1968. Novick graduated from Yale in 1983, so she brought it up, thinking it would be "like a bonding thing."

"When did you graduate?" Bush asked her, as she recalls. She told him. That's when Bush told her that Yale "went downhill since they admitted women."

"I said, 'Excuse me?'" Novick says. "I thought he was kidding. But he didn't seem to be kidding. I said, 'What do you mean?'"

Bush replied that "something had been lost" when women were fully admitted to Yale in 1969, that fraternities were big when he'd been there, providing a "great camaraderie for the men." But that went out the window when women were allowed in, Bush said.

"He said something like, 'Women changed the social dynamic for the worse,'" she says. "I was so stunned, shocked and insulted, I didn't know what to say."

She says two things offended her the most: "That he would think that, but almost more so that he would say that to a woman who went to Yale."

He's a male chauvinist.

Sure he can relate to addicts...he IS/WAS one.

Read the whole article and then see if it makes you MORE fond.

-- (he@makes me.ill), November 01, 2000.

I agree with Cin. I got a warm feeling for the guy from that piece. A portrayal of a real human being. Quite nice.

I'm not a Republican, not a Christian in the popular sense, nor a recovering addict, so no bias on my part from those areas.

Bush's comments regarding women changing the environment at Yale make sense to me. I can't imagine how a thinking person would miss this. How could it not change the social dynamic at the institution? A basic understanding of young men (hormones) is required in order to more readily comprehend where Bush is coming from. Want to quickly screw up a group of men who are living & learning together? Toss a woman into their midst.

I don't see that his comments reflect his over-riding opinion as to whether women should have been admitted to Yale. His comments, IMO, sprang from a brief reminisce of his time there. Period.

Rich

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), November 01, 2000.

Thank you very much, Cin and Bingo! I bow to your higher intelligence!

-- Political Hussy (Applaudes@for.my.friends), November 01, 2000.

How could it not change the social dynamic at the institution? A basic understanding of young men (hormones) is required in order to more readily comprehend where Bush is coming from. Want to quickly screw up a group of men who are living & learning together? Toss a woman into their midst.

Yeah right. No more jacking off in coffins. I GI.

-- (I@G.I), November 01, 2000.

Bingo1:

I'm with you, man. My first reaction to makes.me.ill's post was amazement that there was such a thing as an honest politician, who didn't lie simply because lying was expected of him. Very impressive.

My second reaction was amazement that makes.me.ill *wanted* Bush to lie, and hated him for NOT lying! And that this story is reproduced here in the expectation that we will *also* be disgusted by an honest politician. What a strange thought.

My third reaction was surprise that someone like Bush could have been as successful as he has, actually calling it as he sees it. What we traditionally reward is someone who consults opinion polls to find out what to pretend his own opinion is.

Finally, I have to wonder what makes.me.ill's reaction would have been if say, Ann Richards had lamented the loss of something valuable when men were admitted to Bryn Mawr. I imagine ill's reaction in this case, despite *precisely* the same flavor of chauvinism, would be agreement and enthusiastic endorsement.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), November 01, 2000.

I've always been fond of bush, but believe me, the shaved pussy is even better.

-- (lickin @ and. dickin), November 01, 2000.