PPL, notice for those of u in the KoA, round four is running strong. If you don't have a score in yet, get one in TODAY!

-- Chris Parsley (cparsley1@hotmail.com), October 28, 2000

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Hmm I wouldn't have put it quite like that.

I'd just say if you're going to run a tournament, take a little more interest in it & update the website a little more frequently.

Then maybe you won't get people dropping out because they can't be bothered.

Crash.

p.s. But then I guess that's just my more polite version of the previous message ;)

-- Dean Ryan (crash@tcp.co.uk), October 28, 2000.

(This is coming from a friend's computer; still unpacking :( )

Wow, yet another enlightening post from a "mysterious" poster. And people think that I'm desperate for attention.

I'm with Crash, though. It would be a lot better to update the site more often; with the page down, why not ask everyone to email the inps to you? It keeps the competition intriguing, you have to admit :) With the way that things are going (moving, packing, threatening small animals, you know the drill), I'm just going to give up this round. No offense, Chris, but ever since the golf round, it's just not fun, and the point to these competitions is to have fun. Maybe KoA2 will be more up to date; may I suggest more than one person that would update the scoreboard, that way if one person's computer is down, the other can still do the job?

I'll catch you guys in the chat room in a couple of days; still many small animals to torture. Here kitty, kitty, kitty....

Sincerely,

J.D. Lowe

-- J.D. Lowe (jedidrunkenllama@hotmail.com), October 28, 2000.

Let me see, other than JD, nobody offered to help, and if the top of MARP (not naming names) cared to put even an ounce of help into the KoA as they did in MARP Tourneys, it would be no troubles with out-of- date pages. But nobody wanted to help (ok, gb excluded). So, with one person on an outside page running the thing, there is to be some downtime. NOW, if you want to volunteer to help, maybe it would be different, if not, stop griping and complaining. Okay, the soap box is open again.

-- Chris Parsley (cparsley1@hotmail.com), October 29, 2000.

Pages updated...

-- Chris Parsley (cparsley1@hotmail.com), October 29, 2000.

Chris,

I thought what I said was more along the lines of constructive criticism, rather than griping and complaining. I was just rewording the offensive post (which was thankfully deleted) into rather more suitable comments.

So you've said that gb and JD offered to help, and I would think that three people would easily be enough. I know we'd have all preferred to have separate "K1-game" categories on MARP to upload into, but it wasn't to be as the SQL database changes aren't that easy; notice T5 being set as T4 for example.

Zwaxy has been taking a back seat at MARP for a long time, and I for one have NO criticism of that, as he put so much work into the site overall making it what it is. And with the various editors' and confirmers' efforts, for the main part it runs itself. That's nice and painless for us mere MARP players, and it's how the majority of us prefer it.

If you want help NOW with KOA updating and maintenance, then I'm offering it. I don't think you'll dig KOA1 out of the hole it's in, but I'm sure with a bit more planning KOA2 has the potential to be much more successful.

I'd just suggest as a starting point having better fixed deadlines for the start and end of the various rounds, having the ROM available for download as soon as the page is ready, and more careful use of the previous round's page when using it as a template for the next round. The various errors just make it look like you don't care, and I think that's a contributory factor in so many people dropping out.

Crash.

-- Dean Ryan (crash@tcp.co.uk), October 29, 2000.

I think maybe (no offense to anyone ok?) that we all MARPERS should stop complaining all the time to Chris, and see the simple fact that without him there is no KOA!

If we do this all the time B4to people that tries to bring up w idea, the will be no new ideas in the end...

I think your KOA is ok Chris (THe games have not been soo fun yet, but the idea is very good)

Regards

QRS

-- QRS (qrs@telia.com), October 29, 2000.

Thank you QRS. Dean, I thank you for your comments, but what happens is people expect things to run as smooth as MARP tourneys, but those boards are auto-updated, so it's not possible. I try my damnest (sorry about profane) to get everything as smooth as possible, but that's not always possible.

-- Chris Parsley (cparsley1@hotmail.com), October 30, 2000.