Goats, chickens etc..and worms

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This is probably a stupid question...I know goats get worms,had never heard chickens get worms, but have learned that, ducks and guineas get worms?? I don't know, my main question, will people get these worms? I am teaching my children to work with the animals and I certainly don't want them to get the worms. I recently bought a pygmy goat and she may be bred, so I want to wait to worm her until after she kids. My parents never wormed the goats growing up they said, and I am just getting started with my goat group. Plus, the other pygmies that I bought 4 mths ago, the guy was real wishy washy about whether or not they had been wormed before I bought them. Anyway, I thought I would start on my worming schedule in spring, then I would know, but my children are helping clean up after these animals and birds, am I endangering them? I grew up ok. ;-) I think....;-)

-- Cindy in OK (cynthiacluck@yahoo.com), October 22, 2000

Answers

How old are your children? If they are of the "pick up anything and put it in your mouth" age, then I wouldn't allow them into the barn without lots of supervision. But think how worms get transfered in animals--usually thru investion of the eggs in some way, thru food or hay contaminated with the eggs, or things like nipping the eggs off the fur. If your young 'uns wash their hands very well after beingaround the critters, and keep manure-y shoes out of the living area, I would think that they would be fine. Just don't let the dog "kiss" you on the mouth, etc. Just common sense stuff.

-- Leann Banta (thelionandlamb@hotmail.com), October 22, 2000.

Cindy, to answer the basic question, all animals get worms. Chickens get them just as easily as any other animal. Any yes, there are some worms that are able to switch from host to host, species-wise. Your best bet is to take a fecal sample to the local vet, then follow his directions. There are wormers available through vet catalogs or the local feed store that you can use. I mentioned on a similar question the other day that Hoegger Supply company has an excellent herbal wormer for goats. Their # 800 221-4628. They also have an array of goat-related products that is mind-boggling. Check 'em out, and have fun with your goats!

-- melina b. (goatgalmjb1@hotmail.com), October 22, 2000.

Ok! My youngest is 7 yrs old. I have two autistic children who are 9 that I worry the most about since I never know what they are going to do, but they are not allowed outside without me.

-- Cindy in OK (cynthiacluck@yahoo.com), October 22, 2000.

Hi Cindy,

Saw your post and that you had 2 autistic children. I teach children with autism. If you ever need any help, etc..... I'd be glad to help.

-- Bernice (geminigoats@yahoo.com), October 23, 2000.


Bernice, your so sweet! This is just the best forum and the nicest people! Isn't it everyone?

-- Carol Waldrop (cwaldrop@peoplescom.net), October 23, 2000.


Hi Cindy, Not too long ago we were talking about something natural for people to take. I have used Black Walnut capsules for worms. Someone else mentioned pumkin seeds, yum.

After reading so many forums, I decided to do an injectable worming, unfortunately too late. I recently lost my pygmy goat. We kinda think it was lung worm, something the paste wormers never reached. I hate learning the hard way.

-- Dee (gdgtur@goes.com), October 23, 2000.


== After reading so many forums, I decided to do an injectable worming, unfortunately too late. I recently lost my pygmy goat. We kinda think it was lung worm, something the paste wormers never reached. ==

Equine Ivermectin paste dewormers DO take care of lung worm. Deworm every 6 months with it. Alternate other chemical classification pastes in between these times. I keep the same deworming schedule throughout pregnancies. I used these products for many years on equine, bovine, swine, goats and sheep. *OR* what I now do, feed all your stock (chickens too) FOOD grade Diatomaceous Earth for deworming. You'll see less flies around your stock, no flies breeding in manure, no mites on your chickens, no crawling insects where it's sprinkled (does as good a job on fire ants as Amdro), etc. and a healthier glow on your stock. No poison to worry about. Approved by the EPA, USDA, FDA.

-- ~Rogo (rogo2020@yahoo.com), October 24, 2000.


My in-laws were farmers in Italy before coming to the states. They told me that they wormed all the animals AND THE PEOPLE every 6 months as a precaution. They used natural remedies of course. My mother-in law still has nightmares about being forced to drink a whole bulb of chopped garlic mixed with milk. THAT WILL KILL ANYTHING! (or so she says anyway). I don't know how they wormed the animals they dont remember. I do know that Hoeggar's told me that their herbal wormer beat out Invermec in recent studies. I like the herbal wormer and use it (it is a mix of wormwood and quassia - two well known worming herbs). But then again, I am not a real experienced goat owner - just a goat milk loving homesteader with only 4 does. Grapefruit seed extract (not grape seed extract) will kill alot of fungal and bacterial parasites but not the large worms. I have use GSE with success in my barn for minor bacterial or fungal problems.

-- Tiffani Cappello (cappello@alltel.net), October 24, 2000.

Thanks Bernice!! I will have to take you up on that offer! So nice to offer! Thank you for all the advice! I will have to try them. I just love this group!!!

-- Cindy in OK (cynthiacluck@yahoo.com), October 24, 2000.

It's quite simple to know if you're deworming is working; all it takes is your vet checking a fecal sample. Without a fecal, you really don't know.

-- ~Rogo (rogo2020@yahoo.com), October 24, 2000.


Where do you purchase food grade DE?

Thanks

Margaret in IL

-- Margaret Fox-Hawthorne (Nubian51@aol.com), October 27, 2000.


There's a current thread on it -- go to: Where can I buy DE?

-- Joy Froelich (dragnfly@chorus.net), October 27, 2000.

Along the thread of deworming naturally I recommend the book a Cure for All Diseases by Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D., N.D. She tells how to deworm humans, dog's and cats I have all of my animals on this program including myself. My dogs are doing extreamly well their coats are beautiful and weight is excellent. Chemical wormers from the vets can cause seizures but the natural wormers are so much safer and less costly. I am searching the web for a natural dewormer for chickens for my black smith that has a pet chicken does anyone know if the natural wormers are ok for chickens? I know nothing about chickens! Thanks

-- Enid (enid@tir.com), April 17, 2001.

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