Points for goals?

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Just reading the discussion about Leicester's tactics on another thread and how negative football is boring.... but brings results.

The Rugby Premiership this season gives you 4 points per win plus a bomus point for every 50 points you score. A similar thing in the EPL could have a bonus point for every 5 goals. Leicester would currently be sitting on 17 points while Man U would be on 19.

What d'ya reckon? A bonus point per 10 goals or what?

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000

Answers

... just had the horrible thought of Coventry and Southampton playing out a 5-5 draw on the final day of the season to pick up the 2 pints each they need to avoid the drop!

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000

Actually, Geordie, I can see the value of giving extra points for stuffing someone more than 3-0. However, I note that we have the second stingiest defence in the PL at present (Well, Leicester are first and we share second place with Villa). We also have one of the poorest goals scored. So maybe tinkering with current system should wait until we are looking a bit better at the front. We must be about due to stuff someone, though. Can't see it being Ipswih or Everton. THE MAKEMS! 5-0 to us.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000

I was thinking of cummulative goals, not just scored in one game. So Heath have scored 21 which equates to 4 BPs whereas we have scored only 8 which is 1 BP.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000

Why not just go the whole hog and award points for goals, end of story ?

Newcastle United 5. Manchester United 0

NUFC 5 points, MUFC nil points.

And as for draws, 3 points apiece for a 3 3 draw seems reasonable to me.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000


I was thinking about this last night as well.....I was thinking of how Leicester are only marginally ahead of us when we've actually lost 3 games.....maybe 4 points for a win and 2 for a draw? or would that be overly negative by offering too many points for a draw?

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000


Hmmm - I always thought there were 3 areas of play in football. Defence, midfield and attack. If you're going to award plus points for goals scored, what about negative points for goals conceded? Midfield could get poiints for the best turned out combination - ye knaa, matching/complementing/contrasting shirt-tucks.

Actually, I can see merit in awarding extra points for goals scored if it makes it more appealing to Joe Public. However, those players who form the defence in a squad would be rightly p*$$*d off if their good work didn't contribute as much as their "more illustrious" forwards. And that's coming form a world class Regent's Park striker.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000


I read a comment yesterday by George Graham on how poor the standard of defending is in the PL right now, and how foreign stikers love coming into this situation - it doesn't appear to be overly affecting his own 'Johnny's' mind you!
I think he's right about the standard of defending, and this would explain how our lot apparently have the 2nd best record at the moment.
Manure ran away with the PL last season with a very average defence, and are doing OK this year with an even worse one.
This might also explain why our teams are doing so poorly in the European competitions. Peter Taylor may also have reasoned that a team that can defend properly might have a very good chance of winning it all - God forbid!
I don't fancy tinkering with the rules regarding points awarded as I don't think it's necessary.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000

My tongue was slightly in my cheek then, but why should the defenders crib about the forwards apparently getting all the glory ? If a team wins, say, 5 : 3, it means the winning team's defenders did a better job than the losing team's.

Okay, you could see it the other way round, but (slipping elegantly into patronising pedantry) the object of the game is to score more goals than the opposition, so the final score will be a measure of how well or badly the different sections of a side perform.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000


It's not just a matter of how badly defenders are doing. The whole focus of the game has more and more favoured the attacker (offside rule, penalties, tackle from behind, not allowed to shot the striker etc). We're seeing more goals because the rules, refs , FIFA and us want to see more goals. Which is great.

As for this points for goals (jumpers for goalposts), no thanks. That'd mean spawny get results like Newton Heath vs Bradford would leave them top! While deserving clubs like us (4th) would languish furthur below.

Keep it a win meaning a win and the points awarded appropriately. Penalising teams for defending well and winning games by small margins would harm rather than help.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000


>Peter Taylor may also have reasoned that a team that can >defend properly might have a very good chance of winning it all

Wasn't that TSM's theory? Did us the world of good didn't it?!

; o )

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000



What about this for a better points systems

One point for a win AND for a draw with a point for Every goal differance. So a 2 - 1 win gets the winning team 2 points, and a 5 - 0 win gets the winning team 6 points. OK so Man U would still be top but you would get more goals and teams trying for the full 90 minutes .

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2000


Like the look of that Rik, and there's nowt glaringly obvious that would cause problems, as far as I can see.



-- Anonymous, October 04, 2000


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