Lad from the Strawberry has just been up to SJP to buy a ticket for tomorrow night and says there are no queues whatsoever and that the staff in the box office say they aren't expecting a big crowd. Looks like the pricing policy is backfiring. OK fair enough charge #16 for adults but why didn't they just make the kids #5 rather than #10? Games like these are an ideal opportunity to get the next generation of kids hooked at the vital age. No wonder we see so many kids walking round in Moan Utd tops when the only footie they see is on the telly.

Arse.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

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Good point..not only is the club testing your loyalty...which most of us know is fragile anyway....but they are pricing out yer next generation.

Wanna borrow 62,000 cockneys?

:-)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Fragile loyalty .. i normally ignore your crap matey but thats a bit below the belt . Tosser .

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Prove it :-)

I can swallow humble....:)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

LR, there's a difference between a European game in the CL AND THIRD DIVISION oppo in the Worthy. Knowing the team AF puts out in the Worthy, you'd sell about 12000 for a simialr fixture. And furthermore, you live in Birmingham and got the game so the attendance hardly precludes any cockneys from going, The trains were running ok...

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

I gave my son the choice, Go to the game or get a new shirt for a birthday present. He chose the shirt. It would have cost #26 for the two of us, whicg for a reserve game is too much. I would have thought #10 and a fiver would have guaranteed a sellout .

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Reserve Game? I would have thought our very own flat-track bully will be itching to fill his boots...

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Our Board continue to get it wrong. The Mackems are charging a fiver for everyone, hate to say it but they've got their pricing policy spot on. where's Rogan Taylor's influence in all this?

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Douggie...we took 4000+ to Villa away last season KNOWING that the only name on the team sheet we knew was Luke Chadwick!!! We had 55,000 there on a wet wed night a few seasons ago against Bury?

BTW..TRAINS!!..Please don't tell me Douggie that you too subscribe to the idea that United's FANTASTIC show last week was due to all our Cockney Reds getting the train??

Anyway..I didn't expect you to sell 50,000 tickets...yer not Man Yew. I expect 20,000.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

same old sh1te different thread , dont you bore yourself sometimes . i bet its easy to get to sleep in your house .

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

LR

You're missing the point mate.

We'll still have a comparitively high crowd when shown against the crowds the likes of Villa, Everton and Spurs will get. What I'm saying is we've got 52,000 seats now so for these less attractive games we can afford to halve the price and get as many kids along with season ticket holding parents as possible. Or, without wanting to sound patronising, perhaps someone who is unemployed could benefit from reduced prices. Not everyone is on the national average of #20k a year, infact about 70% are below it and well below at that.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

if we get 30,000, that's 3000 more than villa got in their last league game and 20,000 more than the makenms got in the same fixture last year..

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Lanky writes: Douggie...we took 4000+ to Villa away last season KNOWING that the only name on the team sheet we knew was Luke Chadwick!!! We had 55,000 there on a wet wed night a few seasons ago against Bury? Personally I think that is fair comment, well done to the glorious leaders, pace setters and all round good eggs.

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so remind me, how many supporters did you take to the third round of the FA Cup last season?

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Sting..you make me laff mate, you really do. So it's ok for United fans to have the piss ripped outa them for actually turning up....year after year WE hear the same old BORING dross mate...and when YOUR loyalty is put to the test you get all defensive. Look..If I have to take the flak for being United...you gotta take the flak for being Newcastle. It's the way of the world mate. :-)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Ronnie Gill reports that 30,000 have been sold and a near 40,000 crowd is expected. Now for Leyton Orient in the first leg that is okay by me. Not many clubs would expect to get such a crowd even for a Prem match on Saturday.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Baader...I agree 100% with what you say but do you really think I'm gonna do just that...agree and swan off?...Naaaaaaaa..I'll agree with you that I think your club should reduce prices.....every club should for these games...and I also didn't expect you to get a massive crowd. We do...but there's reasons behind that.

I'm actually surprised that I got a rise or three on this one :-)

Douggie..If you get 30 K I'll eat humble...loads of it ok:-)

ITK..very good...very good indeed :-)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

LR, I'm only going on what the local rag is claiming - that they've sold 30,000 tickets. I haven't a clue. However, I am going so my conscience is clear...

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Dougal....30K for Orient is good...very good.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Metro radio are still advertising the fact that over half the tickets have been sold . That's more than 26,000 innit

L R is making me feel dead giulty, I think I'll have to get myself along to the game after all.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Rik - e mail me.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

LR,

Start tucking in to your pie pal - there'll be 30,000 plus there tomorrow night.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Smiler...if Chelsea are only getting 18,000 for their Euro game and Leeds last eason had LESS than 10,000 v's Port Vale, 30K + for your lot will be bloody good.

Anyway, yer only turning out cos of the shit you'll get from United fans :-)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

The only way we'd give ourselves sh1t for turning up would be if we got beat .. otherwise ive got no idea why we'd berate ourselves have you ?

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Sting..You are Newcastle..WE are United.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

'Anyway, yer only turning out cos of the shit you'll get from United fans :-) '

I'm sure it is a motivation - the motivation to maintain a reputation, and the more that reputation is disputed, the greater the motivation to prove people wrong. Same with noise levels - if our away crowd didn't have a reputation to live up to, they wouldn't be nearly so loud. In my opinion. ;-)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Windy.....although what I posted was SLIGHTLY t-i-c..there is an element of truth about it. I know...... I used that same feeling myself ....probably along with thousands of others last Tuesday night

The MIGHTY 62 :-)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Conflicting stories.

According to the Ronny 30,000 had been sold before the box office opened today and the club are saying that between box office sales in business hours today and tomorrow as well as walk-up sales tomorrow night they are expecting the crowd to be nudging 40,000.

Not bad, imho.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

LR,

Appreciate the recognition. However, comparing the Toon Army to Chewsee and Leeds stick-on fans is a little fatuous - not in the same class ol' son.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

I'm sure a lot of non season ticket holders will be going along to see the new St James for the first time. Although I think it's short sighted, if the attendance does nudge 40,000, it does rather vindicate the pricing policy, from a business perspective.

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Tomorrow night's ticket sales and the other purchases that are made to the benefit of the club will almost pay for the first instalment of Lua-Lua! (If my maths are somewhere near)

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Posted by wonkey on 19 September, 2000 at 20:59:36: ...#5 for adults, #1 for concessions and only 24,600 turn up!!!!!!

Mind you it could be worse, look at the Smoggies, losing 1-0 and only 5,000 fans there!

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

LR - just as a matter of interest, Leeds v Port Vale last season was actually 11,192. I know cos me and Mr Jacko were that 2! The point about the crowd at that game was Leeds wanted to reduce their prices - they were charging #12 and #6 for first leg Uefa Cup games against teams neebody had heard of and filling the ground. They wanted to do the same for the Vale match but the Vale chairman, a conniving, cheating little git of the highest order, would not agree and wanted full prices in the hope of making a killing. He was advised against this by Leeds and told it would be counterproductive. In the end he agreed to #20 and #12 and told his own supporters what a good deal he'd done for them!! Leeds had a Uefa game in the week of the Vale match and got an attendance of approx 38,000. Many of their fans refused to go to the Vale match in protest against our stupid git of a chairman.

Now I know this contributes nowt to the debate about loyal fans (other than to point out once again that LR has difficulty counting ;- )) but it does show that cup pricing is not just down to the home club. Does anyone know if Orient were approached about reducing prices even further or not. On another thread I suggested that #10 and #1 would probably nigh on fill the ground and would bring in 300 - 400 grand. Just who is responsible for these daft prices? And I don't care how many are there tomorrow - they're still bloody daft!

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Still, I hope we get more than the Makems..

-- Anonymous, September 19, 2000

Jacko....yer right...and so am I :-).....If you take away Port Vale's following fans you'll find that the number of Leeds who attended was well below 10,000. :-)

Boycotting a match is counter productive too...United fans wouldn't do it....only fickle fans of other clubs do and then use the boycott as their excuse for not showing loyalty.

Under 10,000 of their own fans....that's as bad as 10,000 in '91 :-)

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

Mine's bigger than yours, nah nah na nah nah.

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

Hello mate:-)

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

Lanky wrote:

Boycotting a match is counter productive too...United fans wouldn't do it....

However, boycotting an entire competition is acceptable.....it must be Newton Heath do it!

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

ITK...You have a bee in yer bonnet over this thing don't ya?

Let it go mate..it's history. Anyway...had we been in it we'd have won the damn thing .....

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

LR, you've got nowt to boycott - any sins can be overlooked as long as you're winning things. And you know the score about 91 as well...

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

No I don't Dougal..all I know is that YOU are trying to tell me 30,00 Mags boycotted a game :-)

We attempted a boycot once in the 80's and it failed.

Anyway Toon.....when are you and The Mystic one gonna get it on...it all seems luvvy duvvy over at RI :-)

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

ITK...You have a bee in yer bonnet over this thing don't ya?

No, not really. You bowled the bliddy thing, expect to get it his back......and then you go on to say:

Let it go mate..it's history.

"We keep winning these EPL titles, FA Cups and European Champions League we are so brilliant we are so wonderful, we are the greatest"

.....to use your own arguement Lanky Let it go mate..it's history.

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

DON'T build my part up as some gloating half-wit ok? We're having a discussion / debate and all U can do is throw up the FA Cup from last year. We all know why United pulled out of the cup. We..the fans didn't want it ..and you know this but all you can do is throw it in my face as though it was the fans' fault. Poor show mate.

BTW....the line about us probably winning last years cup....I meant that. :-)

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

It's true - there were boycotts and pickets for about two years on and off. We also had the highest away attendances in the league at that time. That should tell you something.

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

Sorry..don't beleive it!!...the bit about having the highest away attendance anyway.

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000

LR - it's something that can be checked so why would I make it up? It's true. Anyway, I;m off to the Toon now. See yer later.

-- Anonymous, September 20, 2000