Even Strachan said it looked a pen

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As former Postman Paul Williams lambasts the referee fo giving a penalty and accusing Charvet of diving, Gordon Strachan, the referees nightmare, has said from where he was it looked like a penalty.

Williams should count himself lucky he was on the same pitch as Alan Shearer.

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

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I was screaming for a penalty ! But when I watched it after on MOTD I wasn't convinced ;-) Taking some stick especially from the Man U fans around here ! Like every penalty they've been awarded is justified ;-) I'm just loving being able to say "So What ! Do you know We're top of the league !!!"

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

I was level with it and it looked like a penalty all day and I even said so in several text messages.

However I now agree with kats (as we watched MOTD together). Gold medal to Charvet for winning the high board diving event. WATOTL

:o)

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000


I didn't think he 'dived' like some players do, he fell over far too easily that's all, not condoning what he did but players do it against us as many times.

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

Never looked like a penno on the telly, but the ref was probably unsighted by the Coventry players around Charvet. To give the benefit, he may have had his heels clipped a bit, but to say he made the most of it would be nearer the mark.

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

Feckin' CHEATS!!

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000


Gotta agree with LR....again....god I hate agreeing with him!!

The game is in a poor state at the minute with players cheating, making a meal of being fouled and generally going over the top on gamesmanship.....it needs to be stamped on by the FA and the sooner the better as far as I'm concerned....

Yes I'm glad for the penatly and the win and I have seen it go against us but I do not agree with it at all!

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000


Don't want to encourage you LR, but you do make me chuckle :-)

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

LR, you sound as bitter as that ex-NH drunkard from smogland last night!

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

At least yer honest Gav........I hate cheats too, even ours:-)

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

DB..I ain't bitter...however I have spent the day having discussions with that silly old twat Dancing Dave...so if I start to rant like a bin-dipping granny stabbing job-dodger then you know why.

"CALM DOWN CALM DOWN "

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000



;-D Cheer LR, forewarned is forearmed or at least a small tug of the shirt anyway!

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

I wish someone would listen to my idea about simply scrapping the pen or severely reducing the number of times it's awarded.

The pen is a 90% (ish?) chance of scoring. The player who was fouled usually had less than a 50% chance of scoring. It's no wonder the players cheat when the rules are so damned stupid.

At the opposite extreme, a player (say Rob Lee) is brought down by some arsehole (say a Norwegian Newton Heath striker) when clean through and only the goalkeeper to beat but the offence is outside this arbitrary space called the "penalty area". Result? EVERY SINGLE player of the cheating team (bar the Norwegian t**t who has been sent off but sadly not had his legs amputated) can now be used to defend against the free kick. A more just result would be AT LEAST a clear run on goal with every defender TWENTY yards BEHIND the player. (Plus the amputations I mentioned earlier of course.)

Why is nobody bothered about these huge MISTAKES in the Laws of the game? When a team is denied a chance to score through an infringement of the Laws, try as near as possible, to give them a SLIGHTLY better chance than the one they were denied. This will discourage foul play without placing the ref in the invidious position of having to award the match to one team or the other on the strength of a single penalty decision he MAY have made a mistake over.

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000


Well in rugby they have the 'penalty try' (or they did when I played, ... but it was a long time ago) It was awarded very, very, rarely. I think the game needs a penalty area which goes with the penalty of course.

-- Anonymous, September 07, 2000

>>>>I think the game needs a penalty area which goes with the penalty of course.

Why? (Serious question)

When both the FA Cup and the Football League began there were no penalties. The penalty was introduced in the 1890's I believe.

(From memory) ;-)

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000


Except Rob Lee would NOT have scored against Rudolph. He would have shit his pants and put the ball in K stand.

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000


Bollocks LR.

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000

May be right LR but surely he deserved more of a chance than (for the sake of argument) Shearer did on the basis of Charvet's dive (alleged). As long as we have rules players are going to exploit them. Is it cheating to stick your hand up for a throw-in/corner that you know you don't deserve?

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000

We have a set of rules .....and ya can't go chopping and changing them however unfair they seem at different stages of a game. Ok....OGS pulled down Rob Lee when he looked like he was away...but he was not assured of scoring..especially against the keeper he faced, so it's not right that a penalty is awarded. OGS was sent off...leaving us a man short. Ok..it was late on in the game, but had it been earlier on then NUFC would have had a massive advantage due to OGS foul. I kinda agree that a free kick on the back of that foul, defended by the whole team seems unfair...and I would embrace an attempt to change this....but at the mo we have what we have.

The option of having a one-on-one with the keeper is too diverse to contemplate. Do you take away the added ingrediant of a chasing defender?.........do you substitute the sent-off defender for another...who may me quicker in the "chase down"?......How many yards do U give the attaccker?....How long does he have to score?.....it's a nightmare

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000


Your right LR it shouldn't have been a penalty, it should have been as they do in rugby, a penalty goal, that would soon stop the cheats and those who want to bend the rules somewhat!

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000

" a clear run on goal with every defender TWENTY yards BEHIND the player"

Are you describing our usual defending technique Jonno? ;-))

I agree with your "penalty fitting the crime" rationale. How do WE go about getting the laws of the game changed?

-- Anonymous, September 08, 2000


Just trying to add some pedantic point to your arguement LR, How many penalties have you seen when the fouled player was "Certain" to score? A lot I have seen recently have been on the edges of the box and some near the goal line.

-- Anonymous, September 11, 2000

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