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Subject: Is this forum becoming a new "uncensored spinoff"? Posted By: Dennis Olson (Registered User) Posted At: 8/4/00 8:29:02 pm From IP: aka "The New DeBunkie's House O' Trolls"?

Sysops, if you don't want to reign in the hateful crap that's happening here recently, may I suggest that you hand the reigns of authority to folks that actually CARE about civility?

Civility is the PRIMARY reason this board was spawned, after all. WIth all respect, either take care of business, or get out of it.

-- Cross Poster (laugh@for.the.day), August 06, 2000

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what do you care? i ignore the crap and read the substance. america was borne of choices. let the crap slingers sling crap and the substance providers post their intelligent thoughts. read and post to the good stuff and ignore the other. this'll keep you from getting your panties in a bunch. or, start your own fabien socialist board and load it up with rules and regulations so you get a sanitized cross section of the world. makes no difference to me...

-- Uncle Bob (unclb0b@aol.com), August 06, 2000.

Cross Poster.

As one who occasionally looks in on the sleazy board I too was doubled over with mirth in reading some of the in fighting lately. However, as has been pointed out to me in the past, we just lower our selves to their status as bottom feeders when we drag stuff over here. Suffice it to say that specimens like Olsen, Invar, Tod Berg and others deserve each other. Observe the evils of censorship and those who would be holders of the keys.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), August 06, 2000.

PS: Uncle Bob

I think you have possibly mis-read the original post as it does not pertain to THIS forum.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), August 06, 2000.

Well I did venture on over to the link. I read ALL of them as a matter of fact.

Cross: I dont think we have a moderator here no more, (others correct me if I'm wrong) but I think unc Bob was to the point.

What I fail to understand is WHY (from MOST posts i read 'there') it appears we are beneath TB?

We imho, have been unfairly labeled. Alot of us here have a bond of sorts, cyber friends, debates, etc. Pretty much same as there, w/exception of FREE speech. With FREE speech yes, there comes the weirdo's, WEED THEM OUT, look on.

FREE SPEECH. I agree alot of uncivil discourse has been going on lately, but, for the most part, those of us (we know who we are) choose to ignore, at times respond, or simply remain silently in lurk mode.

IMO, one board is NO better than the next. Difference is.....You can get 'outted' there IF.... now question IF what? well, whomever made the RULES. For you to play by those, is in fact, your choice.

Why do you choose to bring the dribble and drop it off on our cyber doorstep? So we can BASH the other? And your point is???????

Listen, if you wish to see board bashing, you will get that, see because herein lies FREE speech.

I will not bow to your level of board bashing, it is unneccesary.

You Cross Poster are in fact a shit disturber, no?

Now I called it as "I" see it.

For what is your purpose?

xoxo, humble regards sumer

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), August 06, 2000.

Censorship is the worst of all evils. For once censorship is enforced the other freedoms go too. There's never a stopping place for censors.

Like Uncle Bob says, if you're offended don't come here, or don't read it. As my buddy RA said, the likes of Olsen, Invar, and a few others I could name wouldn't know civility if it kicked them in the butt.

If the worst you ever have to endure in life is hateful crap, or lack of civility, usually over something with which you diagree, then you've had a pretty easy trip.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), August 06, 2000.

sumer ,I misread it too, but my opinion of censorship is the same no matter what board. Like you, there are many on here I consider cyber friends whether they agree with me or not.

Yes, Cross Poster qualifiies as a shit stirrer. I'd rather have weirdo's, malcontents, hateful crap, religious nuts, old bags like me, doomers, pollies, flamers, trolls, and a lot of people that I don't agree with, than be on one of those sanitized, bland, boring, censored forums.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), August 06, 2000.

note to Ra...

nope, i kenw it was The Other board. he still shouldn't care IMHO...

-- Uncle Bob (unclb0b@aol.com), August 06, 2000.

Observe the evils of censorship and those who would be holders of the keys.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), August 06, 2000.

Rational1,

Well said, good sir!

I haven't browsed slEZ much recently, but took a long and joyous look today. It's entertaining watching the intolerant attempt to tolerate each other - especially with fascists and idiots holding the reins (reigns?). ;)

Those who so happily sanctioned the silencing of we (now historically-proven correct) few are now enjoying the fruits that such seeds always bear. Perhaps this is the appropriate dessert after a meal of crow-bean-rice hash...

I know of no better word to describe the situation, than "vindicated."

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), August 06, 2000.

What I fail to understand is WHY (from MOST posts i read 'there') it appears we are beneath TB?

I did get the feeling "over there" that "uncensored spinoff" almost left a bad taste in several mouths (or on their typing fingertips, whatever). They're having growing pains. We're having growing pains. It'll all equalize as time goes on. Either way, I think the people here do a good enough job of policing themselves that a moderator/administrator isn't even really necessary.

P.S. sumer, the CBS people were so touched by your response on the other thread that I think they want you to be in Big Brother II. They've already signed up 112 people from this board (and TB2000 II), so one more won't hurt. Uhhhhh..... Do you mind wearing green lipstick and a nose ring?

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), August 06, 2000.

The fact that anyone would try and draw a comparison between the two boards is itself ludicrous when one is highly censored and the other is a fantastic free for all.

I would suspect that "they" do view themselves as having unfettered speech,in a false utopian sort of way.I have to wonder why we didn't get a pair of those rose colored glasses too,but I'm damn glad I/we am relegated to view the world without them.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), August 06, 2000.

10-4 Bob, Im with you now!

Thanks Andy, high praise coming from your good self. Now, take some good advice and get out of there before November:>).

And finally, welcome back Gilda dearwhere on earth have you been? My spirits are lifted just knowing you are still with us. Please bless us more often with your fabulous wit, OK.

Oh, one more thing. Try as I might, it is difficult for me to avoid commenting on our favorite toxic landfillDennis Olson. Is there another person less qualified to speak on getting along than Kill em quick Olson? Too funny for words.

-- Ra (tion@l.1), August 06, 2000.

Howdy folks:

Actually anyone who would go to Dennis Olson for intellectual advice would probably go to

Conflict Resolution

Invar for advice in conflict resolution. It appears that many have.

Best wishes,,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), August 06, 2000.

During his 3 minutes of fame in Jan.2000, Dennis Olson stated on National TV Syndicated News, that "along about July, ......we will donate most of your supplies to the local food bank."

To this day, I have never seen a statement from Doomer Dennis that he has done so. Perhaps he is still waiting for "Y2k" to strike.

In the meantime, his "opinion" about ANYTHING, has a value of less than zero as far as I and many others are concerned.

-- cpr (buytexas@swbell.net), August 06, 2000.

I'm rather mystified about why several commenters on this thread seem to think that I'm a "shit disturber", "shit distruber", or some other sort of disrupter for merely posting something here for comment which came from EZboard which I found to be entertaining entertaining. Ra, you and a few others seem to have understood, but the comments from Uncle Bob, Consumer, and Gilda are frankly rather surprising. Perhaps the fact that I forgot to put quote marks around it made it appear to be my words, but I would think that the link provided would clarify that. Are those of you with the unkind words having a collective bad hair day?

-- Cross Poster (lighten@up.folks), August 06, 2000.

Cross Poster:

I don't think anyone meant to malign you in their comments. I noticed the trend on that forum in my weekly visit yesterday, and commented on how all the fora seem to have folks that are pissed off in another thread on THIS one.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), August 06, 2000.

Ragweed season is starting in some parts, Cross Poster. Don't take the snipes personally. I'm sure that Cin will be happy to slide a glass of red wine over your way if you ask nicely.

-- (kb8um8@yahoo.com), August 06, 2000.

A fresh whipping boy. Boy did we need that. Old ones petty much ground to grounds. Thanks for the fresh blood (meal).

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), August 06, 2000.

!Thje lontisst poiuggit! LOL!

-- thrixti ez-board (ni@ni.ni!), August 06, 2000.

I'm rather mystified about why several commenters on this thread seem to think that I'm a "shit disturber", "shit distruber", or some other sort of disrupter for merely posting something here for comment which came from EZboard which I found to be entertaining entertaining.

The poing being, that you got your point across!

You are free to cross post and the people here are free to express how they feel about you cross posting without fear of retaliation!

GOOD JOB!

You even tamed the savage beast in Charles, He posted without ANY cap locks.

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), August 06, 2000.