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I have two 4x5 film hangers. They hold four sheets. After searching endlessly for some kind or containers to proccess in, I realized my best bet would be to go to the local "custom plastic" store and have plexaglass tanks made, sized to hold as little chemistry as possible. Twelve inches in lengh, twelve inches in depth, and about six inches wide. I don't know if this is going to be expensive or not. I am not interested in tray proccessing, BTZ tubes, can not afford a Unidrum, I don't know if that would be for me anyway. But I was wondering if I used the Combi HP tanks not as a daylight tank, but dunking the film holder just like the hangers, would anyone have experience with this method? I personally don't like the time it takes to fill and empty the tank. I find it much more accurate having the film in and out quickly. I checked the threads, but none helped me in my decision. Thanks for the response.
-- Raven (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 21, 2000
I had a container made for dunking the 45 film while in the hanger, it is 3/4 in wide, 6 inches long, and 6 inches deep, it holds 13 oz of developer and when the hanger is in it, it comes about 1/4 inch above the top of the hanger, I develope one sheet at a time and it works very well. Measure the width of your two hanger set and and allow 1/4 inch, the same for depth and length. Pat
-- pat krentz (email@example.com), July 22, 2000.
I know your not interested in tray development but have you tried using the Combi film hanger in a tray. This is what I've been trying recently with good results. I put no more then 2 sheets of 4x5 in the hanger lay it in a 6x8 flat bottom tray with 26 fld.ozs.(US) of developer if processing two sheets, 20 fld.ozs. for one sheet. Regards,
-- Trevor Crone (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 22, 2000.
What do you mean you can not afford a Unidrum. The last two I purchased locally cost me $5.00 each (used, but very nice condition). I also purchased a Unicolor motorized base for $15.00. The system works great and is the lowest cost way to process 4X5, 5X7 or 8X10 film. Good luck!
-- Ron Lawrence (email@example.com), July 22, 2000.
Wow! What a great idea, Trevor.I don't have the Combi tank, I have metal film hangers. They hold four sheets each, which I forgot to mention. If I load the film on these and put them in a tray, then I don't have to touch the chemistry, the film won't scratch, and I don't have to shuffle the film, either, all the reason why I don't like tray proccessing. My only question is, will the film sag, having the center of it touch the bottom of the tray, and I will have uneven developement? I will try this with an unexposed sheet of film. If its fine, how do I agitate film in tray proccessing for the developement??? Thanks.
-- Raven (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 22, 2000.
I've not used metal hangers but I guess they are quite slimline so there may be a problem with film comming into contact with the bottom of the tray. Here in the UK we have a reusable mastic adhesive compound called "Blu-Tack". If you have something similar, then blobs of this placed firmly on each corner of the hanger will raise it sufficiently above the bottom of the tray. I've used this stuff to secure sheet film in the Polaroid film holder when processing ordinary film in trays before using the Combi hanger. With regards to agitation I rock the tray up/down, left/right at each 1/2 min. interval for the duration of the dev. time and the negs. seem very even using this method. I hope this is of some help?
-- Trevor Crone (email@example.com), July 22, 2000.
I have tanks and drums which I use for most of myn processing. But when I am just testing or fartin' around with one sheet at a time, I use some small plexiglass tanks I made. I can put in two single metal hangers in them. the only drawback is that without care I can scratch the film in the dark. Tubes are very easy to make and I suggest you find the directions in the archive to make them. They work great. I also have found lots of Tupperware containers that work very well. And they are very cheap. But making your own plexiglass tanks is very easy but will cost you as much as just buying some simple tubes from Calumet. James
-- james (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 22, 2000.
Raven, have you thought about looking for the heavy kodak tanks? They made several sizes and you could use your dip and dunk method. I always see them in the used darkroom sections of camera stores. I try to pick up the best for myself. I use them for all kinds of things, never paid more than three bucks a pop.
-- jacque staskon (email@example.com), July 23, 2000.
I have built several processing tanks for 4X5 and for 8X10. The 8X10 tanks hold 2 holders. I also have a 4 holder model. The 2 sheet tank uses only 64 ozs of chemistry. The tanks are constructed of acrylic plastic, the stuff most archival print washers are made of. This material cuts easily on a table saw and glues permamantly using a horrible solvent-like cement (contains methylene chloride). If you have access to a table saw the rest is easy.
-- Steve Barth (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 23, 2000.
If you have hangers which hold four sheets of 4X5 film it sounds like the old Kodak multiple hangers which were used with 3 1/2 gallon hard rubber tanks. Those tanks should be available used in a reasonably well equiped darkroom store. They are also available new but I think they are a bit expensive. While you may be able to find or make something which holds less solution, the highth and depth dimensions of the 3 1/2 gallon tanks should give you a base line idea of what you will need.
-- Bruce McLaughlin (email@example.com), August 15, 2000.