T400CN vs. Black & White+

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Kodak Black&White+ is supposed to be the "consumer version" of T400CN, modified to get better prints from the average minilab- presumably using color paper. Has any one done a comparison of these two to determine whether there is any difference in the resulting negatives? I don't really care about the prints - I consider them as "proof prints" from which real ones can be made. However, any differences in the negatives are important. Any input?

-- Richard Newman (rnewman@snip.net), June 23, 2000

Answers

I highly reccomend you go to http://photo.net/photo/ and search the archives as the chromagenic films have been discussed considerably there.

-- Paul Swenson (paulphoto@humboldt1.com), June 23, 2000.

Paul, Thanks for the reference. I am familiar with photo.net. However, this is a more B&W focused group, and I am hoping for some input from others who do not use photo.net I have made some informal comparisons, but don't want to input mine until I hear from others.

-- Richard Newman (rnewman@snip.net), June 23, 2000.

I tried the Kodak Select b/w plus once and found the orange coating to be extremely heavy and it was very hard to print on my own equipment...to me it was very different from T400CN or XP2.

-- Todd Frederick (fredrick@hotcity.com), June 24, 2000.

I didn't find B&W + to be as sharp, possibly because of the very heavy orange mask. I'd rather have T400CN or XP2.

-- John O'Connell (boywonderiloveyou@hotmail.com), June 26, 2000.

I've tried both, examined both with an 8x loupe, gotten many, many crappy prints, I suggest, USE REEL (punn!) B&W, but the T400CN is the better, as mentioned earlier the B&W+ looks soft compared to the t400cn but they both give a "dreamy" softness that I never liked...

-- Jason Tuck (jtuck80@csi.com), July 06, 2000.


Ilford XP2 super gives images (on B&W paper) that look like those from traditional B&W prints, at least compared to Kodak TCN.

-- Peter Olsson (peter.olsson@lulebo.se), July 06, 2000.

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