What good cable release?

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I have used many kinds of cable releases and have now settled for 10 inches cloth cable releases from HP Despite being better than most of this kind, they only work smoothly the first few days or so, and due to the bent and constant trauma (why aren't the shutters cable fittings directed towards gravity?) they rapidly start to gripe. I had tried to reinforce them with one inch of thermo-retractable electric insulation, but doesn't last long either. There are some stronger makes, but the risk for transmitting movements to the lens is too high. Are there some cable releases better than others? Also, if 10 inches are fine for short lenses, what would you recommend for long lenses ? Any way to lubricate a cloth cable release?

-- Paul Schilliger (pschilliger@smile.ch), June 17, 2000


Try our PVC releases which are also available through the Pro Release line. They are almost as supple as cloth and, being PVC covered, they are also water proof.

They are available in 12, 20 and 40 lengths in black, white, blue or red colored coverings.

They have the Zeiss disk lock and a rotating nipple.

Price is just a bit higher then cloth.

Or you could go to the Linhof releases. These actually come from the same factory but have a Linhof proprietary plunger. Several times more expensive they are mesh steel covered by PVC.

-- Bob Salomon (bobsalomon@mindspring.com), June 17, 2000.


While these are currently the HP Pro Release we will change the name later this year to Gepe Pro Release, HP Marketing is a subsidiary of Gepe) so it will be less confusing to simply refer to them as Pro Releases rather then HP releases.

-- Bob Salomon (bobsalomon@mindspring.com), June 17, 2000.


While these are currently the HP Pro Release we will change the name later this year to Gepe Pro Release, (HP Marketing is a subsidiary of Gepe) so it will be less confusing to simply refer to them as Pro Releases rather then HP releases.

-- Bob Salomon (bobsalomon@mindspring.com), June 17, 2000.

Bob, thanks for suggesting the PVC models. I will test them. I remember having had one (from an other brand), longtime ago and after a year or so, the PVC had hardened so much and the thing was as stiff as a stick of wood! But I shouldn't have stayed on one bad experience.

-- Paul Schilliger (pschilliger@smile.ch), June 17, 2000.

The nice ones from Calumet with the 3 red rings on the handle one holds while pushing on the plunger work very well. Couple them with a L shaped screw in adapter and you get a release system that works a lot better than constantly screwing the release into the lens.

-- Dan Smith (shooter@brigham.net), June 17, 2000.

Paul you might like to take a look at the two marketed by Horseman. They list two in their catalogue:"long type" #29543 which is extra long at 100cm and "large type" #29542 which is about 50cm long. This is the one I've had for some years and is very well made of cloth material and reinforced just above the rotating nipple. It also incorporates a hand strap with is useful for hooking onto the tripod or camera to take up the slack and extra weight. I've certainly not seen better then this here in the UK. Regards, Trevor

-- Trevor Crone (trevor.crone@uk.dreamcast.com), June 17, 2000.

While we're on this subject, has anyone ever seen a high quality pneumatic bulb operated release that is at least 25 feet long? All I can find is the cheap ones and they are junk.

-- Erik Ryberg (ryberg@seanet.com), June 17, 2000.

" high quality pneumatic bulb operated release that is at least 25 feet long"

Have you looked at the 33' long Kaiser air release?

-- Bob Salomon (bobsalomon@mindspring.com), June 17, 2000.

I highly recommend the Linhof releases. Since switching to the Linhof cable releases three years ago I haven't had to replace a single one (I have one for each lens, most are the 40cm version.)

Have you thought about mounting your lenses upside down?

-- Ellis Vener (evphoto@insync.net), June 17, 2000.

I second the recommendation for the Calumet release with the three red rings. I use the 40" version without any problems. I believe they make a shorter one (maybe 20"). This release has a very long end which is easy to grip while screwing it into the shutter.

Ellis make a good point about lens position on the board. I've oriented all my lenses so the cable release points towards the lower left corner of my lens boards. Since the Arca Swiss uses a recessed design as it's standard board, this gives me a little extra room to mount the cable release (with it's long end) before it goes into the recess. You also end up with your scales in a readable position, and the PC terminal on the side (rather than upside down).

I've never seen the Kaiser product, but I have the de Groff long pneumatic release. It's OK. There were some things I didn't like about the de Groff, so I made some improvements to it. This is documented elsewhere in this site, although I've made some further modifications since submitting this pdf file. I only have 50 feet of tubing, but can say I can easily trip a Copal press shutter, and have also done time exposures on "B" setting. I'm guessing I could probably go 75 - 100 feet with this setup if I had the need.

-- Larry Huppert (Larry.Huppert@mail.com), June 17, 2000.

I second the Horseman ones. They are really made to last.

BTW, Larry, where on earth can I buy de Groff air-releases?? I can't find them on the net. Also, where is the pdf file for your mod? (This forum really needs a search facility)

-- K H Tan (kahheng@pacific.net.sg), June 18, 2000.

Paul, I'm in favour of the Horseman release. Very smooth and positive with a secure locking mechanism. The hand strap (removable) is great for hanging over handles on the tripod head when focusing/composing. Regards Paul

-- paul owen (paulowen_2000@yahoo.com), June 18, 2000.

I just buy the cheapest ones I can find. I keep one on each lens and a couple extras in the back pack. If one breaks or falls off the lens and gets lost, no big deal. Just stick one of the extras on the lens and keep going. I don't ask much of a cable release. All it has to do is trip the shutter and any cable release on the market will do that, at least for a while. I have a bunch on hand that I think I bought from Adorama several years ago for about $5 each. They work fine and at $5 or so each who cares if one breaks or gets lost every now and then?

-- Brian Ellis (bellis@tampabay.rr.com), June 19, 2000.

I like the Pro releases mentioned here, but have an add-on question. Anyone know where I can get a good quality cable release with the non-tapered nipple? I have a new lens in Prontor Professional shutter, and it requires one for one of the two releases. At least, I think it requires the non-tapered, I'm currently using one, but it's really not smooth and I would like to replace it.

-- Jeremy Tavan (jeremy@tavan.com), June 19, 2000.

Thanks to all of you for your inputs! The idea of having one cable per lens is interesting. I will get some of the special long cables for seamless operation on the critical long lenses. Regarding the position of the shutters on the boards, Is it a common thing to have them upside down or to have the scales on the sides rather than up and down? This last setting would make readings much easier. Your experiences?

-- Paul Schilliger (pschilliger@smile.ch), June 19, 2000.

Is it common to mount the lens in a non conventional way? Who knows! All that matters is that it works better for you.

I've always heard that the Prontor Professional shutter requires *much* more force to trip than a Copal or Copal Press. Don't they make some fancy (& expensive) cable release which integrates preview and shutter tripping into one package?

-- Larry Huppert (Larry.Huppert@mail.com), June 19, 2000.

Paul: I use a fairly short (20 inch) Prontor release cable that Calumet sells in the US. They advertise it for recessed boards (flexible tip I think). The tip is simply very short and does not spin freely compared to the sheath. This means you can screw it in by twisting anywhere on the cable, and thus it attaches very quickly. I mount my lenses so that the cable goes down. This prevents bending and relieves some force on the front standard as well.

-- Glenn C. Kroeger (gkroeger@trinity.edu), June 19, 2000.

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