Speed away

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According to the NUFC.com website Gary Speed is favouring a move back to Cheshire with Man City favourites to sign him, with a fee of #2million reported.

If there is any substance in this a) the fee is a bit light even for someone of his age, and b) I thought this was one area where we really have been lucky with injuries and need to bolster the midfield not weaken it.

I wouldn't be too upset to see him leave as long as he is replaced, with a tough tackling defensive midfielder as it appears that Bassedas is a more creative blokey.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

Answers

WHAT?!?!!

2 million!! NO CHANCE...

13 goals a season and an international (ok ok) captain...

8 million and I'll think about it....now eff off Joe Royle!

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


bolllllox

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

I'd accept anything above #4 million. This may be all a case of cashing in on a player while we can still get some money for him.

I'll reiterate that this appears to be pure rumour stuff, but an interesting talking point.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


Speed has become hero from zero for me. Deffo one of our better players last season. #2m is a joke.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

Nah Gav

We will never get 8 mil for Speed....I reckon we are looking at 3 - 3.5 mil. 2 million is an insult, even though he has never been one of my heros

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000



bollocks

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

Swifty, wouldn't life have a wonderful symetry if the director of football at Celtic was to come in for him now?

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

Speed has been one of the most under rated players we've ever had. He isn't a flashy player so you don't notice what he's doing. Our success over the last three years can be put down largely to his contribution.

Your turn Swift !

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


For me the post-Keegan era has been epitomised by three players. Ketsbaia, Speed and Dabizas.

These three are the ultimate in triers. They will play and play until they drop, always give their all, but fundamentally they aren't up to it. They replaced, either directly or indirectly the likes of Ginola, Tino and Albert. These were class acts.

I'd be happy to seem them all go

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


I agree with you Mac (with reservations about Speed who i think is a much better player than given credit for!) but our problem is that we can't just get rid of them and get back the quality of players that we had....it's gonna be a long hard slog :((

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


I agree that #2m is too cheap. He scores a lot of goals and is an industrious player. I wouldn't lose sleep if he leaves but I'd want #3m absolute minimum, hopefully nearer #4m.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

3-4 million for a 13 goal a season midfielder?!?!

Are you lot mad!! he scores more than Viera, Petit, Beckham, Scholes together and he's worth half the price of Dacourt?

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


Most of the goals are from set pieces and he is part of that general midfield slowness that means we depend so often on set pieces for goals. However, he is far better than his general lack of poularity would suggest. Why would he want to join Premiership strugglers at this stage of his career?

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

Yep Gav you're right - he had a bad start but has been the backbone of the team this season.

I can't really put a value on him but I'm certain YBR will.

City are trying the Monkeyheed school of managing - make silly low offers to keep the fans thinking you're seriously buying people. They're as starved of success in Manchester. A Manchester team hasn't won anything significant for many moons.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


Got to agree Gav. This guy is seriously under-rated at SJP, despite having had an outstanding season. If he himself is considering a move it is probably because he feels his contribution is undervalued by the fans.
I can only assume this is because he is closely associated with TSM's failings, plus having a poor start with the Club. However, the fee paid for Dacourt is indicative of how just much it would cost us to replace someone of GS's calibre, not even to mention someone who could score the number of goals that he gets - for instance, just check out how many goals #11mm Emille Heskey scored from CF compared to GS's contribution.
Sad.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000


My feelings are well known about Speed. I wouldn't sell him, for anything we can't build a team that's capable of challenging for European places if we keep selling ou best players.
His goals may come from set pieces but if hadn't scored them we'd have been in deep doo doo this season. Speed was our second top scorer this season. Why would anyone consider selling him??? Even for the money we paid for him. He's beeter now than he was when we signed him.

-- Anonymous, June 06, 2000

I'd be glad to see Speed go if we could sign the following three players; Don Hutchison from Everton. Frank Lampard from West Ham. Hayden Mullins from Crystal Pallace.

If we can't what is the use of selling Speed if we are going to end up with a very attacking minded, but lightweight midfield of Solano, Gavillan, Dyer & Bassedas. With Lee and Gallacher rotating in and out of the midfield. We have no youngsters comming through who are ready to contribute more than sub appearances for experience, and no depth or left footed player other than Speed, Bassedas or Gallacher. None of which are wingers.

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000


We can't sell him. The way the transfer market is going we'd only go on and spend twice as much on a player half as good.

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000

Tre, how much would it cost to replace him with the 3 players you mention? 10 mill+ is my guess.....

We shouldn't be talking about getting rid of our better players....it's the dross we need rid of and more quality in the squad!

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000


Gav,

Aye, at worst Speed is an excellent squad player, and certainly in the upper bracket of midfielders currently in the PL. I can think of at least 10 others who would be first out the door before Gary.

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000


I`m not a happy bunny. That`s another of the players I would have kept! (:o(

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000

Cheer up honey, he's not going anywhere....

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000

Let's make a list of midfielders in the Premiership who have scored more goals from midfield last season. I'll start the ball rolling:

1) Hmmmmm. Give us a minute, I'll get back to you...Ginola? No, hang on, the winger who had his carreer saved by moving to the centre of civilization has only managed 2. Beckham? Oh no, he only has 3 despite being the greatest midfielder of all time...there must be someone....oh yes, Gary McAllister, and he is 36 and cost 1mil, so how the f*** does Speed only merit 2mil?????

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000


13 goals from midfield. Rarely injured or even misses games due to suspension. Excellent vision, great passer of the ball. A players player. 2 mill-fuch off. Why would we sell him for a virtual unknown south american wanna be. remember all the hoopla about maric, remember not so sweet now is it. Scenario. Speed gets sold, rob lee gets hurt and we have a midfield of south americans playing catch up with Roy keane and co. WE would never win. Games are won in the trenches, players like speed are the warmongers that keep us from gettin stuffed. I'll get me coat

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000

Syme,
You are 100% spot on -"... games are won in the trenches".
There are two reasons we are still in the PL:-

1) RL & GS won more than their fair share of trench battles
2) AS scored 30 goals

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000


Some brilliant argument here about Speed , Tre im sorry mate but the facts speak for themselves . I really barracked Speed when he first joined , his vision was poor , he went backwards , gave the ball away the whole lot .. totally different situation , and IMHO the best header of the ball in the premiership . Softie i just love those comparisons with Ginola and Beckham .. and remember Gary Speed doesnt take the free kicks . He scored some v important goals last season , most notably was the one at Spurs in the cup . If he went it would be bloody disaster .

-- Anonymous, June 07, 2000

Sting,

Your saying you'd rather have one Garry Speed, as opposed to 3 players, two being Don Hutchison and Frank Lampard. Granted G. Speed is an essential part of our squad, but I believe Hutchison would be an adequate replacement. Lampard offers another dimension and joins Kieron as the foundation of our midfield for the next ten years. And I really find it puzzling that no-one is interested in Hayden Mullins. I mean what's difference between Lee playing at Charlton before he moved on, and Mullinns playing at Crystal Palace. Oh yeah the EPL is full of foriegners now. Mullins is the captain of Crystal Palace at 21. He's their second top goal scorer,11 this season, as a defensive midfielder. He plays total football, both defends and attacks. He'd be relatively cheap, and is better than anything we have on the bench and in the reserves at the moment.

-- Anonymous, June 08, 2000


Tre, we wouldn't be able to afford Lampard for what we would get from Speed. Unlike Kieron Dyer he has proved himself at England U21 level and would not go for less than 7mil. That's not just a replacement, it's a major investment. You'd also have to convince him he doesn't want to stay with his old man, and you can bet your bottom dollar that he'd insist on West Ham doing very nicely out of any transfer. Hutchison would put us straight back in the same position as Speed: high fee, on the downward slope of carreer so no significant selling on fee. Mullins looks great on paper, but we wouldn't be the first club to risk ourselves on a player performing as well at a higher level and ending up with egg on our faces, so he's have to be bought in tandem with another. Anyway, our days as a buying club should be fading: McClen seems to be maturing a bit now after the initial 'Scott Lucas' syndrome, and Green and Carr would grace any midfield as we will no doubt see as next season unfolds.

-- Anonymous, June 09, 2000

Shepherd confirmed that Fulham have made an approach. He said: "I did recieve an enquiry from Fulham but I'd put the phone down even before they could make a offer. It was a similar situation with Blackburn last week. I've made it clear that Gary Speed is a key member of our squad and that quite simply he's not for sale."

I never heard of any rumours suggesting Blackburn were interested. Presumably they were hoping to do a part-exchange deal. Renewed rumours about a swoop for Duff then? Or even Jansen, who's ban from the U21 set up woill not go down to well with Souness. Mind you it wouldn't go down with Bobby either especially as Dyer is in the news.

-- Anonymous, June 26, 2000


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