Quotably Quoted #13

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Andy, I almost feel sorry for ya' - Now :) Next year I'll feel no remorse about turning those like you away. Could you send me a picture of yourself. I'd like to watch you starve ; definetly a good object lesson. Stupidity should *ALWAYS* be rewarded IMHO. Next year "survival of the fittest" takes on a whole new aspect, wouldn't you agree??

-- Brent James Bushardt (brentj@webt.com), July 07, 1999.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), May 31, 2000

Answers

A pathological need for vindication,eh?Yet you still feel all empty inside...

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), May 31, 2000.

Ah yes, Brent. Yet another oh-so-certain doomer who vanished mysteriously at the stroke of rollover. But Brent, like Andy, was less of a surprise than Lane Core. Lane was a "famous author" over at Westergaard. You'd think Lane could grace our forum with at least one well written article.

And I think zoobie deserves a round of applause for carrying on the same attacks against the same people just as though nothing had changed. None of this wimpy noticing the world around him for ole zoob, nope. If anyone ever wondered what the *reason* was for zoobie's attacks, now we know. He doesn't NEED a reason, just a target.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 31, 2000.


From the "How well did your preps last?" thread:

Groan. Tuna is about half gone, and we have 5 very happy cats. Canned roast beef and barbecued pork not touched yet. Used maybe 1/5 of the canned baked beans, 1/8 of the canned chicken and dumplings, 1 case each of the green beans and peas (out of 4 cases each visible), gave away 5 cases of canned potatoes and still have 5 visible (used 1 can so far), the next food drive gets all the canned carrots, beets, tomatoes, and corn (none used yet), made a goodly dent in the canned pasta, used ALL the coffee (60 pounds). Gave about a dozen cases of *something* to the last food drive. The second row against the wall of maybe 40 cases of God Only Knows (I can't see it) obviously hasn't been touched yet. Very small dents in the cases of spices, condiments, and vitamins. And we're about halfway through the TP and paper towels and bottled water. Haven't really touched any of the cases of sliced grapefruit and orantes. Grocery bills have been low all year, and promise to stay that way for at least another year.

We've long since gone through our 10,000 rounds of ammunition, and we're about halfway through our next 10,000 rounds.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 28, 2000.

-- Flint is an idiot (but@t least.he doesn't post in teal), May 31, 2000.


Maybe so, but I don't post anonymously, and I don't try to hide my mistakes. I admit them cheerfully and in detail.

Incidentally, why do so many attackers post anonymously? If you're proud of what you say, why not take credit?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 31, 2000.


Flint,

The reason most doomers post anonymously is their shame. They are basically moral cowards, with few exceptions.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), May 31, 2000.


font off

-- (font@of.f), May 31, 2000.

font off!

-- (font@of.f), May 31, 2000.

font off

-- Trouble with (anons@sounds.familiar), May 31, 2000.

Taking exception to anonymous attackers, Flint? That argument sounds vaguely familiar. ;^)

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), May 31, 2000.

Bingo1:

Sort of. As I recall, you have problems with anonymous email addresses (unless your name really IS Bingo1?) But mostly what I'm pointing out is that I don't have anything to hide, not even my mistakes. And when I choose to attack people, I don't hide either!

Really, does this bozo think I discussed the state of my preparations by *accident*?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 31, 2000.



The anon poster is correct...you don't decorate your posts in teal.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), May 31, 2000.

Also, Andy Ray's font is too large for me. I tend to drone on and on, and a large font would use up too much space.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 31, 2000.

So many fine qualities and a self-depracating sense of humor!

What a catch you must've been! Or was it the large dowry?

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), May 31, 2000.


It's just the appeal that comes natural to engineers. Don't you read Dilbert?

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), May 31, 2000.

Tell me I was an idiot for buying into some of the darker scenarios that didn't come true: Okay. I suppose I deserve that. I was wrong. Point taken. Time to move on -- and see if I can find some more recipes for beans and rice.

Tell me again that I was an idiot for buying into some of those darker scenarios that didn't come true: Well, okay. Reinforcing the learning experience, and all that. Fair's fair.

Tell me eleven more times (so far) that I was an idiot (for buying into... etc.) -- in oh-so-smug-and-superior "vindicated" teal-shaded tones: I start to think that someone around here desperately needs to get a life; and I'm also reasonably sure that it's not me -- or my pet "meme" -- that has a fixation problem at this point.

Not to worry, though. It's nothing that having a live ferret dropped down your shorts won't cure.

-- I'm Here, I'm There (I'm Everywhere@so.beware), May 31, 2000.



I'm her, I'm there,

You don't understand. Your soul, dispite best possible efforts, was almost lost. Now that you've been saved from the brink it's incumbent upon your salvors to keep the message up in case a future temptation arises. You poor, dumb fool. You really don't realize how close you were to going over the EDGE.

Humph. Well, maybe. But I think I prefer the old Gideons and Foulfellers to the new ones. Same?

-- Carlos (riffraff@cybertime.net), May 31, 2000.


"your salvors" Is this a body part? Has anyone seen MINE?

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), May 31, 2000.

Bingo,

When someone posts with a real name (like Steve Heller) they earn a measure of respect in my book. We have a number of recycled doomers on this forum with new handles. "a" keeps trying to hide, but I spot his twisted logic rather quickly. By the way, you were the fellow who made the point about personal responsibility. Without the anchor of a real identity, how are you taking responsibility? Doesn't the parade of anonymous handles make it easier for people to slip the mantle? Do you send anonymous letters to the local paper? Do you make anonymous phone calls to your neighbors?

Personally, if you want to stand up and attack a person or policy, you ought to have the backbone to sign your name to it. C'mon, Bingo, did anyone sign the Declaration of Independence with a pen name? Great men have lost their lives in great causes because they stood and were counted. Evil men have hidden behind masks because they sought to avoid responsibility for their actions.

I am curious how anonymous handles (yours included) helps build a society of respect and accountability.

-- Ken Decker (kcdecker@worldnet.att.net), June 01, 2000.


I'm still here, and I was there. My e-mail is, and always has been, real. But I've gotta tell ya, that I don't check it, at least the y2kboard@ one, every day, like I used too... oo. o..

I'm still Sysman, and some of my "friends" know me in this world as Bruce. I'm still here. Don't ask my why, because I don't know...

Anon? How Anon do you want me? Any "DICK" should be able to find me. You know where I live, what I do, how long I've been doing it. You know my ISP, and if you have really been paying attention, the ADDRESS of my job!!!

OK, I did post a few times as kirk@enterprise.d . But that was only after I found my friends Spock and McCoy in "need beaming out" trouble...

Here we go again. Another Andy Ray post. Will AR ever tire of me saying this:

I WAS WRONG ABOUT Y2K

Tick... Tock... <:00= ...

but you're still a DICK, Andy Ray

Sorry Andy, but I needed a laugh...

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 01, 2000.


Gather up all of the folks who know me and ask them "Who is Uncle Deedah?" and the fingers will point my way. No, it aint on the birth certificate, but considering (in Ken's words) that this is an "obscure internet forum" it's a pretty real deal.

BTW, what kind of 'real' name is Andy Ray? Sorry, I don't buy it.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), June 01, 2000.


Hi Unc!

Fancy meeting you here...

<:)))=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 01, 2000.


But Brent, like Andy, was less of a surprise than Lane Core. Lane was a "famous author" over at Westergaard. You'd think Lane could grace our forum with at least one well written article.

Lane Core has already apologized, Flint, and has apparently chosen to move on.

Apology

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002FXs

You said in January that were going to move on, Flint, but changed your mind later. I have no problems with you posting here. But I don't see why Lane Core would need to keep posting here just because you are. He's apologized, and any further articles from him about y2k would be silly because y2k is over. I think you'd agree it's better for Lane Core to move on than to hang on to the bitter end like Paula Gordon.

His apology should be enough. He doesn't also need to be a masochist to you and "Andy Ray."

-- Think about what (you're@saying.Flint), June 01, 2000.


Andy Ray does not like anonymous posters. He says they are "moral cowards". Thus, in the spirit of moral courage------

Who is Andy Ray?

Say hey Andy Ray, how many toilets did you clean today?

-- (nemesis@awol.com), June 01, 2000.


That's pretty good, nemesis.

But as a guy named Bruce, I could be Bruce Smith, the

Football Player

Or, I could be Bruce Smith, the

Artist

Or, I could be one of the other Bruce Smith's that show up on a Dogpile search...

Or, I could be Bruce Wayne. Now, do I really need to post a link to that one...

LOL...

<:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 01, 2000.


Ken,

I occasionally dip into my sarcasm bag. It was just a soft poke at Flint for using a similar argument against this anon that I've used as recently as on your Ritual thread! We're of like mind on this one, Ken.

As to my anonymity - I've used this handle online for four years+. I will continue to do so. I've always provided an active e-mail addy. I encourage others to do the same.

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), June 01, 2000.


Think:

Thank's for that link. I didn't see that thread, and I found it entertaining. Lane Core explained that he was wrong about power (he mentioned nothing else) because those he listened to (his experts) were wrong. He chose his experts, he says, because they used their real names. He carefully fails to mention that he somehow chose the two most pessimistic "experts" available, neither of whom was involved in remediation, and dismissed ALL the rest -- it took Bradley Sherman to point that out. He fails to mention any other subject, though he was adamant about many. It neither occurs to him to wonder how or why he got y2k so very wrong, nor to ponder his attitude towards those he mocked.

In other words, a doomer apology in what has come to be the full sense of the phrase. Still, he really did appear after rollover, so I hereby remove him from my list of vanishing pessimists.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), June 01, 2000.


Flint,

Some believe those who apologised after the fact exonerated.

I do not.

Vindicated Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), June 02, 2000.

I dont 'get it'. Alot keep harping on fake email addy's. I for one am NEVER giving mine out. Why should I have to? Because Vindicated regards thinks 'us' cowards IF we dont? Screw him.

I am not a coward, I email people if I choose to do so,not due to peer pressure by AR or anyone else.

But then again, we should all give our names in full, along with phone number and social security too? Why not?

I admit, seeing these ugly old posts does bring back memories, but NOT good ones. Only reason I even look at these is because this is TB spinoff uncensored, so we (wink*) try to stay on topic at times.

IMHO.

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), June 02, 2000.


I remember my first interface with Mr. E. Lane Core. He was talking out of his hat about COBOL [or something that I actually knew about.] I politely corrected him and went on to give the reasons why. His response was quite concicse: "Polly want a cracker?" My response indicated that, "Yes...I want a cracker, and please throw a sardine on top before the offering." My amazement at his response was due to my perceived notion that this guy was a writer for Westergaard. The lack of professionalism, combined with an obvious leaning toward pessimism helped ME to see him for who he really was. Of course Jim Lord [when he wrote for Westergaard] also presented himself as an objective reporter. One only had to see his writings after he left Westergaard to notice that he is/always was one who had survivalist leanings combined with a hatred for the government who dutifully provides his retirement checks.

-- Anita (Anita_S3@hotmail.com), June 02, 2000.

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