CBS News suggests Chemtrails were for real in 1963

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CBS News just reported that in 1963 100's of sailors on the USS Navarro outside Hawaii were unknowingly sprayed from the air with a "harmless" bacteria called "BG "and then with a caustic fluorescent substance containing Zinc Cadmium Sulfide as part of a bacteriological warfare experiment code named Autumn Gold. Health and legal repercussions are being discussed.

Does this sound vaguely familiar?

-- Dee Dee Tee (@ .), May 15, 2000

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Dee Dee:

This is rather interesting because the Dictionary of American Fighting Ships says that the Navarro, an attack transport, was laid up in Long Beach from August 11, 1962 until February, 1964 for repair and refit. Did this report give any other information on where this spraying took place?

-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), May 15, 2000.


Here's the story from CBS News. My guess is the dates are little off as the Navarro sailed for Hawaii in February, 1964.

http://cbsnews.cbs.com/now/story/0,1597,194947-412,00.shtml

When Robert Bates and the other crewmen on the USS Navarro were ordered to Hawaii in 1963 it seemed like a vacation.

"It was basically an R&R cruise," says Bates.

There was rest, relaxation and a mystery.

"There were people with chemical suits on the ship with some kind of apparatus apparently monitoring what was going on," explained Bates.

"They wouldn't talk to you," he added. "You'd try to carry on a conversation, try to find out what was going on, they just flat ignored you. It always bothered me."

Target Ships Operation Autumn Gold

USS Navarro APA 215 USS Carpenter DD 825 USS Hoel DDG 13 USS Tioga County LST 1158 *Lab Ship:USS Granville S. Hall YAG 40

Operation Copper Head USS Power DD 839 What Bates didn't know and what has never been made public is that his ship was part of a series of secret biological warfare tests conducted in the 1960s.

The Hawaii mission was code-named Autumn Gold. A similar operation off Newfoundland was called Copper Head.

According to a Pentagon briefing film obtained by CBS News, the goal was to test the vulnerability of Navy ships to germ warfare attack.

Nine times within a month jets sprayed clouds of a biological weapons simulant in front of the ships.

According to the film, "A biological tracer, BG, was disseminated by a 4-C jet aircraft."

BG, a bacteria considered harmless by the military, is used to simulate the deadly anthrax germ.

The briefing film explains, "Immediately following the BG release another plane flying the identical flight path released fluorescent particles."

They were particles of zinc cadmium sulfide. This compound, sprayed in the Copper Head test, was thought to be safe, but the military later stopped outdoor spraying after an army researcher warned it was "highly toxic."

"I remember an airplane flying over and I could see it sprayed something and then a little later I felt this mist on my face," says George Arnold who was on the deck of the Navarro during Autumn Gold.

Arnold wonders why didn't the military spray empty ships? Why were men on board? He thinks he has the answer.

"They were doing that just to see how much they could get stuff absorbed into our body, probably in the amount it would take to kill us if they were to use something like anthrax," says Arnold.

Most of the test reports remain classified but in documents obtained by CBS News, sailors on the "target ships" are called "test subjects." Only eight men wore gas masks. They were the "control group" in this experiment. Other crewmen including Arnold were ordered to give throat swabs or gargle samples.

"They would call back from the bridge and tell us to take out a specific bottle and use it as a mouthwash or a gargle then spit it back into the jar and seal it up," says Arnold.

In a written statement the Pentagon tells CBS News the sailors "were not exposed to any harmful chemical and biological compound" and they all "were fully informed about the details of each test." That's news to the dozens of sailors we spoke with.

"We weren't given any information, we didn't know anything," says Bates.

If, as these men tell CBS News, they were not informed and never gave their consent, then it doesn't matter that the military thought the materials were harmless. The tests violated government policies in place for the last 50 years which state: "The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential."

"I don't think when a person joins the armed forces they're giving their body up for science. I don't think that's suppose to be done. I'm very, very mad about them doing this. Its not right," says Bates.

"I think you're in there to serve your country do what needs to be done to protect it, and I don't think being used as a guinea pig..." says Arnold, "is one of those jobs."

Thirty-five years later much about the tests remains classified. More is known about the substances used.

Watch Tuesday when the CBS Evening News takes a closer look at exactly what was sprayed on hundreds of U.S. sailors during operations Copper Head and Autumn Gold.

-- Jim Cooke (JJCooke@yahoo.com), May 15, 2000.


There were also tests involving exposure of Navy personnel to radioactivity from bomb tests not too far off the San Diego, CA coast in the late 50's or early 60's. I believe it was called "Operation Wigwam" but don't have the article handy. It's doubtful that all on board were fully aware what they were exposed to.

-- (Cyber@Squat.com), May 16, 2000.

Also interesting are the films from the 50's of Army soldiers being marched over ground zero in Nevada 15 minutes after the detonation of a 100 kT nuke

-- Dee Dee Tee (@ .), May 16, 2000.

Doesn't it just make you want to run right out and sign up for service?

-- (Sheeple@Greener.Pastures), May 16, 2000.


Yeah but it's different now, right? Right? Right?

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), May 16, 2000.

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