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Hello!

I have been trying to find a Latin/English Bible, preferably with one column in each language per page (o.k., maybe that's asking for a lot). My local Catholic bookstore isn't any help :-( and although I've found the Vulgate online, I'd really like a hardbound volume to take with me.

Any suggestions on where to look?

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 22, 2000

Answers

Hi, Frank. Nice to see you "chiming in" again.

I don't have an easy solution for you, because I don't believe that there is such a Bible "in print." But I'm not empty-handed either. There are a few options for you to consider:

(a) Find a Catholic used-book store, either near you or on the Internet. See if they have, or can obtain, an out-of-print Bible of the kind you desire. I can't remember seeing one in my life, but it sounds like the kind of thing some publishing house would have put out in the past.

(b) Contact the (orthodox) Latin Liturgy Association at http://www.latinliturgy.com/ [or, if necessary, a nearby schismatic church (Old Catholic or Society of St. Pius X)], and ask the folks there if they know of the availability of such a Bible.

(c) Reach deep into your pocket and begin to buy the volumes of the "Navarre Bible and Commentary." This has been coming out, one volume at a time [they're up to 13 now] over the last 15 or 20 years. They started with the New Testament (12 volumes) and have now done the Pentateuch (first five books of the Old Testament) in one volume. Each volume has the Latin Vulgate, the Revised Standard Version (Catholic Edition) [RSV-CE] of the Bible, and lots of commentary written for the ordinary layman. This is not arranged in columns, but rather in a top-to-bottom fashion on each page. Each volume retails for about $15 (except the 800-page Pentateuch volume [$40], but you can find them for less, and you can probably get a break in price if you buy the entire set. (I have seen a few volumes of the Navarre, but never purchased one. I believe that they are in paperback, rather than hardback format, but I may be mistaken. They have an excellent reputation for orthodoxy.) If you want to order a set at top dollar (or just to see what they look like), do this:
...1. go to http://www.stgabriel.com/form.html
...2. click on: "Bibles: Navarre Bible and Commentary"

I know that you said you want a book, but if you come up empty, you may want to consider purchasing a special CD-ROM called the "Catholic Answers Collection." [The name comes from Karl Keating's C.A., Inc., of San Diego.] This contains the excellent RSV-CE of the Bible, the New American Bible with Revised New Testament (used at Mass in most U.S. churches), the Latin Vulgate, the Nestle-Aland Greek Bible text, and a set of Bible maps. Catholic Answers sells this for $189, but you can get it for $139 (with free shipping) at http://www.lcchristianword.com/catholic2.index.html

God bless you and guide you to what you seek.
John
PS: Am going away on a trip for several days. Happy Easter to all!

-- J. F. Gecik (jgecik@desc.dla.mil), April 22, 2000.

JFG,

Thanks for the reply. I've looked into the "Catholic Answers Collection." on CD-Rom, but have decided I *really* like a book for some things. For me, it's just easier.

I've also thought about downloading and printing the Vulgate, but really would like to find them both E&L in one volume as my goals are both to study my Latin and obviously, read the Bible. Having English as a first language, I'm not sure I always get the "true" meaning from some of the tenses in Latin.

I was a bit disappointed with our local Catholic bookstore, but maybe I can find a Seminary's web page online that might use that sort of thing?

I will definitely contact the Latin Liturgy Association, actually right after I post this!

Thanks again, and Happy Easter,

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 22, 2000.


http://estragon.uchicago.edu/Bibles/VULGATE.form.html

http://diderot.uchicago.edu/Bibles/

Frank: while you get the two column Bible, maybe you could try combining the two sites I give you above.

Good luck.

Enrique

-- Enrique Ortiz (eaortiz@yahoo.com), April 23, 2000.


If anyone's interested (besides me), I did find a parallel translation of the NT on the internet. Link to Latin/English NT

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), April 25, 2000.


Thanks, Frank, for the link to the side-by-side Latin and English translations of the New Testament [http://faculty.acu.edu/~goebeld/vulgata/newtest/vnt.htm]. Unfortunately, the English is the King James Version, very beautiful to many, but also very archaic (making it hard to understand) and sprinkled with many errors (I have read).
Thanks, Eugene, for the University of Chicago URL, with its mulitiple Bible versions, searching, etc..

If I wanted to see both Latin and English on my screen, I think that I would bring up the Vulgate from your site, Eugene [specifically http://diderot.uchicago.edu/Bibles/VULGATE.form.html] and then open a separate Internet window [I use Netscape] for the Revised Standard Version [http://etext.virginia.edu/rsv.browse.html] -- and then split my screen so that I could scroll in each window separately, one above the other.

God bless you.
John

-- J. F. Gecik (jgecik@desc.dla.mil), April 27, 2000.


John, only to put a bit more precision on what you said: the latin text of the Navarra Bible is that of the Neo-Vulgata, now the oficial bible text. Most of the latin bibles I have seen on the internet are the S. Jeronimus Vulgata, which was considerably enhanced by this new translation.

God Bless, Atila

-- Atila (atila@none.com), May 04, 2000.


Thank you so much for this good news, Atila!
I had heard of the publication of the much improved, official, new Latin Vulgate [neo-Vulgata, as you said] several years ago. And, ever since then, whenever I have seen a reference to "Vulgate," I have wondered whether the old or new edition is meant. I am happy to read that the Navarre Bible contains the "neo-Vulgata."
Regina coeli, laetare, alleluia!
John

-- J. F. Gecik (jgecik@desc.dla.mil), May 04, 2000.

Frank- There is a downloadable copy of what you are looking for, but nothing in print that I am aware of. The only time I've seen Latin and English side by side is in certain versions of the Missal of the Tridentine Mass. Check out http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/ for a side-by-side version with the Douay/Rheims English translation on the one side and the Clemetine Vulgate on the other. It has full-text searching of both bibles, you can create bookmarks, cross-references and annotations, and it is integrated with the Latin dictionary program Words. Hope this helps. A.M.D.G. Mike

-- Mike (wingnut3193@insightbb.com), May 28, 2004.

Whoa, mike, this thread has been dead for around four years... woo, thats a really old one to bring back, even made before my time here.

see the links at the top? click on catholic. next, you'll see the main page. click on recent answers up by the top. that will take you to the current threads where people (who are still here) are chatting on up to date stuff.

-- paul h (dontsendmemail@notanaddress.com), May 28, 2004.


Hey, I'm still here, and JFG is too.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), May 28, 2004.



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