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I'm reposting this here at the request of the website manager (to whom the question was originally addressed) PLUR out everyone - and I just wanna add one thing because I've seen it stated here a bit much, but _it ain't all about the drugs_. Have you ever been high and around shitty music? You won't do that twice - lemme tell ya. THAT tells you something about the role of drugs in a rave. (Sort of like alcohol at a party. If the party sucks, the alcohol ain't gonna make it better ... it'll just make you sick). Heeee :) Hugs, J
I would like you to substantiate the claim you make in the "Drugs" part of your excellent web site North Carolina Raves where you state:
Because the effects are similar to a variety of amphetamines, other drugs and mixtures of drugs can easily masquerade as Ecstasy. "The name is used for 101 things," says Ives, "A lot of different pieces of garbage on the street are called E." "Man, this is heavy smack," said one partygoer after vomiting a dose of ecstasy, apparently laced with heroin, outside a Raleigh rave. Officer Cates, too, has seen impure Ecstasy. "One guy told us that he made his own [Ecstasy]," says Cates, "and that it contained heroin, PCP, cocaine and LSD -- he crushed it all together."
Unfortunately there have been no substantiated pill reports of E containing heroin or cocaine ... EVER. If you have knowledge to the contrary I would LOVE if I could get a fax of the hard copy proof (or some other firsthand proof of it) but until that point, I have to trust the nonprofit, nongovernment groups that have conducted studies on e pills.
More information can be found at ecstasy.org at the link http://www.ecstasy.org/testing/index.html
Thank you for your time! J
-- Anonymous, March 30, 2000
Quoting J from above:
"Unfortunately there have been no substantiated pill reports of E containing heroin or cocaine ... EVER. If you have knowledge to the contrary I would LOVE if I could get a fax of the hard copy proof (or some other firsthand proof of it) but until that point, I have to trust the nonprofit, nongovernment groups that have conducted studies on e pills."
Exactly. Spread your wisdom. ^_^ I wish more party kids would learn a little about these drugs before taking them.
Half of the rumors spread about "smacky E" and shit like that are due to PARTY KIDS talking shit about something they know nothing about.
Don't get me wrong, there are dangerous adulterants which can be passed off as E. (Dextromethorphan, PMA, etc...)
Before kids start spouting off their "pseudo-knowledge" of drug rhetoric like some sort of wannabe psychedelic guru, I really wish they would actually take the time to read and learn a little bit about what they are saying.
PS. No strychnine in the LSD!!! THIS one is my personal favorite. Even if the WHOLE DOSE was strychnine, it wouldn't be enough to harm you!!!!
-- Anonymous, December 17, 2000
a friend of mine got a pill called a red ballon at flava 5 she was throwing up and just felt like shit she ended up going to the hospital the doctor said whatever sh ate had herion in it. there were others that got the same "red ballon" and had the same effect.
-- Anonymous, December 23, 2000
If you check out dancesafe.org, you will find one pill that had ketamine and cocaine in it. They have yet to test a pill though and find heroin. You can also order test kits online or if you go to a party where they have a chapter, you can purchase a test kit for $20. They are very easy to use. They have a chapter in Buffalo (where I just moved here from) and they will test pills at parties and big club events. The kits themselves are worth $20 (Better than wastin 20 bucks on a fake pill or dying from something else).
-- Anonymous, March 04, 2001
I have seen "E" cut with heroin a bunch of times...There was a party in Winston-Salem, NC a couple of years ago and it was every where.....It was always in the capsule form
-- Anonymous, March 14, 2001
There is not enough heroin in a pill or capsule to be active when taken orally. I can't stand when you people talk that shit about heroin and coke. You are the reason the cops are always lurking. They think that same shit because the un-eduacated newbies that get sick or too fucked up tell them that crap!
-- Anonymous, April 30, 2001
Dead right-I'm sick of hearing shit like "smacky pills" etc. etc.I hear this shit and believe it 'cause it seems to make sense and eventually end up sounding like a pompous know it all asshole-looking at the size of pills,how much coke could possibly be in there-enough to get you up for about 30 minutes or whatever-same thing with heroin- even though I've never tried it- According to sources who aren't sprouting bullshit,it's the ketamine that knocks you on your arse- I'm gonna get one of those kits and avoid pills with ketamine in them in the future...
-- Anonymous, May 02, 2001
Man, nobody knows whats in these pills that we are taking. But i know that its not 100% pure mdma. Different pills give different buzzez. Some pills that are loaded up with methamphetemines are called speedy pills cause they can keep you up for days. But some are not like that and they are more pure. Some dealers will take a pure batch of pills and crush them up and mix them with cocaine or other bullshit to make more pills which equals more profit, So anybody that says that all pills are pure are full of shit. As for herion based shit, i don't even know about that but some of the best pills i have ever had were rumored to be heroin based.
-- Anonymous, June 23, 2002
From someone who's seen it made (several times), there is no such thing as a pure pill. In fact, there is very little MDMA in any pill these days. Anyone who says different just reads on the Net and spouts off like they're a scientist. E has been cut with everything you can imagine, Coke, speed, heroin, ephedrine, K, whatever. MDMA is costly and dangerous to make. It's cheaper and safer (and makes a lot more money) to cut it with other stuff. You all act like cooks actually CARE about your high!!! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!THEY CARE ABOUT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$> that's it.
-- Anonymous, June 28, 2002
exactly. so why would they ever put coke in there?
There's no logic in what you are saying.
I'm not saying e is pure, just that people aren't cutting it with heroin and coke, that's for sure. Speed is cheap - maybe. K can be cheap - maybe. But coke and heroin are not. No $ to be made doing that.
-- Anonymous, June 30, 2002
and just FYI - those kits don't test for the presence of ketamine. So you're out of luck if you're trying to avoid that.
-- Anonymous, June 30, 2002
most people with any sense would ever cut e with heroin look at the prices per gr heroin is far more expensive than mdma, coke i dont know if some people cut e with it but i'd really doubt they would, most people ive seen that cut e cut it with babylaxative, powdered milk or lactose.
MDMA costs about $60-80/gr and heroin is $140-$180/gr
no one with any common sense would cut e with heroin u can make $700 off a gr of heroin after you cut it a gr of mdma cut evenly with heroin u can only make $400 off of after its cut(thats being that each pill contains 200mg) with a gr of heroin, they'd loose close to half of there profit cutting mdma with heroin.
ive dealt with heroin alot it makes good money by itself, it'd be retarted to loose ALOT of money off of it by cutting e with it.
-- Anonymous, July 08, 2002
heroin can be expense...but not always..depending on how much you buy...same with e.....i have had a pill with h in it myself.....taking h orally it would take as much mg as e to get you fucked up(about 75 to 100 mg) i had a waffer which is alot bigger then pills now a days
i have also had pills cut with coke,meth,k,pcp
depending on what they are tring to make money off of......check the dea website and you'll find that alot of sa heroin was being brought into the us in the early 90's.....now since it was the new h on the block..they brought in better and cheaper h then everyone else...so in order to get new people into it..it would only make sense to put some in pills untill you could just give it to them straight....this is what happened down in florida with us....in 93..big fat brown specked h waffers came out....three years later florida was the h capital of the us........good marketing
-- Anonymous, November 08, 2002
actually "speed" is no cheaper than coke around here $100 will get you a G of coke or crank. and as for a pill or 2 keeping you up for days thats bullshit. it takes at least 2 grams of some bomb shit to keep me up for two days.
-- Anonymous, September 06, 2003
Yes there is pills scientifically proven to have Cocain in them. Herowin on the other end is bullshit, pills dont contain herowin and speed is cheap very cheap, Where I am ( Toronto Canada). Pills here go for 5-10 bucks MAX. double stacked are 10 bucks and some triples are 15.
Check out http://www.ecstasydata.org they have pills with coke in them and pills with meth, pcp, k and alot of other drugs
-- Anonymous, March 09, 2005