is it just me or are video cds more trouble then thier worth?? Ok so i make a high rate vcd (2500) and i use the nti cd maker to burn it. i use the Panasonic (with the vbr buffer rate at 150) to encode it. These come out fine. HOWEVER if i use the dazzle to edit these files as well (after their encoded)they get screwed up. At first i thought some files just got corrupted, BUT it seems that, lets say after i encode a highrate vcd, but have to edit some excess footage out of it, i use the dazzle because it has a decent editing program. WELL the stupid thing somehow screws up the file and when its burned after this the audio and pic skip like hell. Can anyone offer me a reason why the stupid thing would do this?? It just sucks that i have to edit my files now ahead of encoding(if i have to break a film in the middle i do not like how the panasonic cuts the last 2 secs with the "cannot get frame data rate message". i also decided to post this for those that use the dazzle but decide to make a highrate vcd. i guess i will just have to learn to edit before hand, unless someone out there knows an mpeg editor THAT CAN handle 45-60min files (most i have seen will not handle them this high) thanks

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 28, 2000

Answers

Now you can't say nobody warned you against Dazzle and its "decent" editing application. Strange but Panasonic has never "cut" the last two seconds of any AVI file I gave it.

-- EMartinez (epmartinez@yahoo.com), February 29, 2000.

The key word here is Dazzle. I don't think it's possible to get the results you want using it. I returned mine and bought a better product

-- Al McCraw (amccraw@ix.netcom.com), February 29, 2000.

no, no i do get some pretty damn good results for the method i use for capturing with the dazzle. and if i edit wit a normal vcd its fine. its just for some reason wheni edit with a higher rate one (ONLY after encoding) does it throw the vbr rate off. So i learn to edit beforehand ii am doing a highrate vcd. But annoying none the less

-- Doug (mazinz@aol.com), February 29, 2000.

I was going to get the dazzle but due to it's audio/video sync reputation, I stayed away from it.

I have an adaptec videoh! and I capture at 3mbps (for as long as I want since it has an audio/video sync chip to ENSURE perfect sync), FIRST I EDIT, then I encode to VCD 2.0 compliance using Pansonic 2.3 encoder (with filteration effects) and the result looks better than a friend of mine that Captures to VCD MPEG with his Broadway.

The key here is (and with other low end encoders) is, capture at high bitrate (highest you can go), EDIT FIRST, then re-encode to VCD MPG>

-- MrVCD (mrvcd@juno.com), March 01, 2000.