OT (Orb Topic) Solar flares and Earth's geomagnetic field

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An interesting site: ELFRAD
click on ULF Pulse Event for some great graphs.
They are reporting some strange anomalies with ULF signals.

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), February 24, 2000



wild data.

-- Squirrel Hunter (nuts@upina.cellrelaytower), February 24, 2000.

Interesting possibilities...and we already have an active volcano in Hawai'i...

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), February 24, 2000.

Thanks Possible Impact for your post and link. Sometimes I don't think you (and others here) realize what a great teacher you are. Before this web site, I had no real great exposure to this kind of detailed information. There is so much I don't know about, and appreciate people like you, taking the time to inform and post. Thanks.

-- suzy (suzy@nowhere.com), February 25, 2000.

Have to concur with site authors in the conjecture that the ULF pulses are manmade and ... what? superimposed on a carrier wave. That they begin 2 hours before sunrise, continue during daylight hours until 2 hours after sunset, and are precisely timed to the half- hour suggests ... oops, let's just say establishes, that they are transmitted or broadcast signals from a ULF array, like the old Russian OTH Woodpecker signals. Who knows what they're synchronized to? HAARP perhaps. Is it anoter "mind-control" signal? Hypnotism of the masses? Makes one wonder if it could be related to chemtrials and the ingestion of petro-chemicals themselves having a certain harmni resonance or frequency ..... HEY!!!! al I can say is, you can begin to see why you won't want to get that little 666 chip implanted: you'd immediately be "programmable" by ULF .....

Anyone else familiar with the works of USDA biochemist Dr. Phil Callahan on the ELF and Schuman resonances? Ireland resonance frequency is somethig like 4.3 Hz; whereas almost everywhere else worldwidse its the standard Schuman of 8.6, and in other places highly industrialized I do believe it jumps to 12.9.

-- Squirrel Hunter (nuts@upina.cellrelaytower), February 25, 2000.


Echoing Squirrel Hunter's comment!

That monitoring station was shown on the graphs to be in North Carolina, which means we are dealing with solar sunrise and sunset as seen from that location. If this signal is eminating from that 'large equatorial coronal hole', other such monitoring stations in other non-American continent locations should also be seeing this signal and at the same UTC range. Right? Thus disproving any hypothesized connection with solar sunrise and/or sunset, right?

If other non-America's monitoring stations are not seeing this same signal, does that not tend to localize it to being generated here on this continent? Or being associated with some American continental resonance?

Besides HAARP, we also have the GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) network here in the U.S. Information about it seems pretty sparse; at least it was the last time I looked around. From the extremely low frequency, and based on what (in this case scarily) little I know of these subjects, GWEN seems a better candidate than HAARP. We also have multiple ELF transmitter locations throughout the world, whose purpose is comunication with submerged subs.

If this signal is from an earth-based source, it seems to me that there should be a way to compute a range of required power for the transmitter. Right? Even if not, would think that the signal strength as seen at any given location should be pretty constant, while it may vary between stations some distance from one another.

What I am getting at here is another way to at least eliminate potential signal sources. E.g., if the power requirement appears far too large for use by the various ELF transmitters, GWEN or HAARP or some other unknown (government-based) transmitters appear the remaining possibilities.

Please understand, I am not at all discounting any possible connection between this signal and, for example, whatever we're being dosed with via chemtrails. Nor am I discounting some sort of mass psychological conditioning. I have no solid knowledge of the frequencies that have proven successful. Perhaps biology-area specialist could provide more input? I will say this: if this is some sort of mass conditioning experiment, it is very cleverly camoflaged!

Another possibility might be that that signal is eminating from a solar source but not from that coronal region as such. All they tell us specifically is that the signal's appearance seems to coincide with the reappearance of that region of the sun. I think... Yet another possibility may be that the signal is eminating from something somewhere else in the universe.

Myself, I am considering whether that signal could be resonance within the earth caused by the energy of particle eminations from, e.g., that coronal region. If so, the signal should be visible worldwide when that region is visible to the earth. And, as that region's characteristics change, the signal strength should change also. Right?

I cannot evaluate whether GWEN would propagate better during the solar sunrise to solar sunset interval than at other periods.

Me thinks we need input from the astronomer and/or astro-physicist types hopefully lurking here!

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 25, 2000.

Also possibly pertinent may be information contained in one of two papers found on Millenium Group's site:

The first paper: "A New Theory for the Solar Cycle", by P.A.H. Seymour and M.J. Willimott

[start quotes] Abstract - We present here a new theory of the solar cycle which is able to explain all relevant observations connected with quasi-periodic behavior of sunspots and other associated phenomena. It is based on the interaction between planetary movements and alignments and the evolving magnetic field of the Sun. The theory provides a very natural explanation for the roughly eleven-year change in polarity of the solar magnetic field and for the Maunder Butterfly Diagram. It overcomes all objections raised against other theories in this field, including those based entirely on magneto-hydrodynamics. This paper sets out a new theory of the solar cycle, based on the concept of resonant coupling between tidal forces of the planets and the evolving magnetic field of the Sun. The theory combines the advantages of simple dynamo models with the more compelling aspects of planetary influence hypotheses, and overcomes the disadvantages of the two separate conceptual classes of approach. [end quotes]

Link: "Millenium Group: New Theory for the Solar Cycle"

Second paper: "Planetophysical State Of The Earth And Life" By Dr. Alexy N. Dmitriev

[start quotes] Current PlanetoPhysical alterations of the Earth are becoming irreversible. Strong evidence exists that these transformations are being caused by highly charged material and energetic non-uniformity's in anisotropic interstellar space which have broken into the interplanetary area of our Solar System. This "donation" of energy is producing hybrid processes and excited energy states in all planets, as well as the Sun.

Effects here on Earth are to be found in the acceleration of the magnetic pole shift, in the vertical and horizontal ozone content distribution, and in the increased frequency and magnitude of significant catastrophic climatic events.

There is growing probability that we are moving into a rapid temperature instability period similar to the one that took place 10,000 years ago. The adaptive responses of the biosphere, and humanity, to these new conditions may lead to a total global revision of the range of species and life on Earth. It is only through a deep understanding of the fundamental changes taking place in the natural environment surrounding us that politicians, and citizens a like, will be able to achieve balance with the renewing flow of PlanetoPhysical states and processes. [end quotes]

Link: "Millenium Group: Planetophysical State Of The Earth And Life"

Possible Impact, I sure hope some of the more qualified folks who lurk around here notice this post; I almost missed it. For some reason the hackles jumped when I followed up the link to ELFRAD. If this topic gains no interest later today among, e.g., astronomers, perhaps it ought to be reposted under a new heading. Something like "Solar ULF Pulse Events -- Paging Astronomers' Inputs"?

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 25, 2000.

I hope you will forgive the deluge of data this will hit you with. (grin)
(Follow the links, hours of reading ahead...)
Main site:CSETI, an "edge" type site. I do think they are legit, just be careful to verify all information.

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), February 25, 2000.


-- sound of swimming back up towards dim sunlight!

Well, after putting up links to the two Millineum articles ike I did, I suppose being deluged in return was at least to be expected!

At first blush, CSETI does seem an edge-type site, and similiar in that respect to Millenium Group.

My innitial reaction, having made a first pass through the "ANALYSIS OF SCALAR/ELECTROMAGNETIC TECHNOLOGY" article, is that that is one h&*( of an interesting article! I see what you meant by 'follow the links...hours of reading ahead'. Uh huh... One problem I have evaluating an article such as that one is that a number of the assertions are, for me, unverifiable. For example, the assertion that the loss of the Thresher was caused by one of the EM weapons systems. Conversely, I have long been aware of supposition about development of various Soviet weapons systems utilizing high-energy physics sources.

Sir, I thank you! As you said, many hours of reading and cogitating lie ahead!

I also have to say, while not diminishing what you just put in front of me (in the least!), that I would still like to see reactions to your original posting by, e.g., astro-physicists who may lurk here.

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 25, 2000.

A "Hard Physics" site: Shade Tree Physics.
The Science links, when digested, could give a masters level understanding of the topic. (Rather than tackle this, I too wish someone "up" in the field would "drop in" and give us an opinion.)

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), February 25, 2000.

PossIm, (grinning), thanks again!

Yes, I certainly have some reading ahead! Perhaps the best part of it is that some serendipity will probably occur along the way...

-- redeye in ohio (not@work.com), February 25, 2000.

Don't think HAARP, GWEN (it's been out of business for two years or more), the Woodpecker or the US or Aussie OTH radars. It's too low of a frequency for those systems to make. It is within the capability of the Navy's ELF system, but I don't think it's a manmade signal.

Look for correlations of this with the "dawn chorus" on other frequencies before looking for manmade sources. ULF is down where the natural resonance of the Earth can be monitored by radio and this may be a new manifestation of Earth's radio frequency activities. Just like the way that recent studies of radio noises like the "dawn chorus", "tweeks" and "spherics" have been correlated to other known natural events.


-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), February 25, 2000.

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