Second image post: same girl

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THIS is the one I meant to post, but my brain is fried on sleeplessness and overworked-underpaid and really gotta get it syndrome. Duh. Tech Pan/PMK. ditto the rest. Smith Victor 500W 12" reflector x 2 in my 'studio'.

this is probably my favourite pic of her...though most people flick right past it in my portfolio. Why?

-- shawn gibson (shawngibson_prophoto@yahoo.com), February 18, 2000

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John that's way better. Thanks. It must be her face I like about it so much, because the crop doesn't seem to lose anything for me. And the contrast is better in yours. Maybe I should get an Iris print done? I wouldn't waste my time cropping in so tightly with a photographic process...

-- shawn gibson (shawngibson_prophoto@yahoo.com), February 19, 2000.

Well done Shawn. Great model! Just enough contrast but maybe the whites coulda been brought out a bit more? I like it.

Bill

-- Bill Stengel (Canis61@AOL.com), February 19, 2000.


Shawn, I hope you're in a good mood ( Ha ) I love this shot, as do you, But I can see something that might throw off the ones skipping over this one in your portfolio - it looks a little un-natural for her to be leaning on whatever she is leaning on like that - almost as if it makes us feel uncomfortable because she probably is uncomfortable. It might be that it causes a loss of natural-pose feeling, almost too posed. Very beautiful print. Dubb

-- Dubb Ditto (WHAT-3-d@webtv.net), February 19, 2000.

I believe this image lacks a striking point which draws attention, making you stop to have a better look (Duh !). This is a well exposed photo, of a beautiful girl, in good light..........but thats it. Know what I mean? This girl seems to be preoccupied with someone/something to her right, the chair being backwards and her arms being crossed are actual body language barriers which further disconnects herself from the viewer? Its sort of like you took a 'Subject unaware of being photographed type snapshot'(although that would be one hell of a good snapshot). I'm wondering why you like this photo and feel you may have a personal attachment to her or the way you shot it. Most people flicking through your folio won't know this and probably don't care. Don't get me wrong though, its a great shot !

The first image you posted of this girl (by mistake) is absolutely brillant! I love her pose, the hand in her hair, the slightly arched back - chest out, the way her legs are positioned and the eyes draw me right in. This image is very inviting. I still can't break the lock from her stare to comment on any technical faults ?! (black edge crap?,where?) Throw this image into your portfolio for a little test to see how people react.

Note: I find your talk in other posts/forums on lighting and techniques truely inspirational. If only my shots were have as good ! (just so you know where I'm coming from).

-- Luke Brnad (plumluke@tpg.com.au), February 19, 2000.


My three "C"s: Color (or tone for b/w), Contrast, and Composition.

In this case the toning has just flattened the picture too much. There is a good contrast range here, but it needs to be brought out. The composition is static.

However, through the magic of Photoshop you can get to a pretty good headshot.

-- John Kantor (jkantor@mindspring.com), February 19, 2000.



I thought I could post an image directly. However, here's the url to the tweaked version:

http://www.visto.com/?club=/visto/groups/fashion.jkantor&service=filep hoto&method=view&tx=n1y&filename=photo/John+Kantor/kath2.jpg

-- John Kantor (jkantor@mindspring.com), February 19, 2000.


You're going to have to delete that extraneous space in the middle of the url to get it to work (should be "=filephoto").

-- John Kantor (jkantor@mindspring.com), February 19, 2000.

Hey Shawn,

I have to disagree with John or you on this one. I don't like the new cropping. If I was to make any sort of cropping, I would go for a tight head and shoulder portrait format.

I don't mind the snap shot feeling (candid) the shot portrays. In fact, I think it is what makes this shot special as I have told you before. I think Kathryn has such a nice profile, both face and figure, that I think the perspective you chose was a wise one.

If I have one thing to complain about the photo, I think it is too forced, as mentioned by another response above. I don't think you will find too many people sitting like that. It kinda contradicts with the facial expression, if you know what I mean.

-- David Hou (dna2367@hotmail.com), February 19, 2000.


I didn't really mean that you can salvage a photo just by recropping. However, Shawn could reshoot and reprint it keeping those concepts in mind. (And it probably wouldn't be such an unpleasant experience.)

-- John Kantor (jkantor@mindspring.com), February 20, 2000.

Yes, your point is well taken, John. I do like the contrast adjustments you made very much, just not the suggested cropping. Cheers.

-- David Hou (dna2367@hotmail.com), February 20, 2000.


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