OT: Clinton on Putin: "A man we can do business with."

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The Final Phase, by J. R. Nyquist

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Borodin claims that this new combination of states will "not become a Soviet Union, but a union nonetheless." The security implications are staggering. According to a leading Russian military analyst, Viktor Kremenyuk, the Russian-Belarus union "strengthens the Russian Federation's strategic position in Europe, enabling Russia to advance to the Polish border and face NATO along that line."

Belarus President Aleksandr Lukashenko believes the Russia-Belarus union paves the way to a Slavic super-state. According to Lukashenko, this new super-state will include Serbia and Ukraine. If such a union can be accomplished, Moscow's territory would suddenly extend from the Pacific to the Adriatic. Think of it! NATO's involvement in Kosovo would retroactively become an act of war against Russia, since Kosovo would then, technically, belong to the Kremlin.

"What I have seen of him so far," said Clinton of the acting Russian president, "indicates ... that he is capable of being a very strong, effective ... leader."

America should notice, in this context, that the integration of Belarus with Russia is a military integration. And this seems to follow a definite pattern. Prime Minister Putin has declared himself in favor of Russia's overall militarization. On Monday, Itar-Tass announced that Russia is "increasing its military orders in the defense industry." Russia's ammunition, shipbuilding and electronic industries have increased over 40 percent since a year ago. The reason for the increase, said the Itar-Tass story, was "the government's decision to build up defense orders ... keeping up the high pace of military production growth."

"I think the United States can do business with this man," said President Clinton.

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"WND: A man we can do business with."

Is this off-topic?

Russian LNG shipments to Europe are reported to be down by something like 40% of the same time last year. Platinum shipments are also way down, and it's price is, I believe, at historical highs. Quote: "Russia is increasing its military orders in the defense industry." Russia's ammunition, shipbuilding and electronic industries have increased over 40 percent since a year ago." I'd say that the increases really started well, well back into last year.

Off topic? When this large a player on the world scene has control over or has significant influence over those having control of, for example, energy and rare metals supplies worldwide? While we are seeing (I believe) increasing disruptions in U.S. energy supplies?

Off-topic? Not from my perspective. It sure does get useful to know when to 'duck and cover' -- beats the heck out of BOHICA. Or BOAKYAGBye (bendover and kiss your ...).

-- redeye in ohio (cannot@work.com), February 17, 2000

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"I think the United States can do business with this man"

Wasn't the same phrase used by German Jews to describe Hitler?

-- Chris Tisone (c_tisone@hotmail.com), February 17, 2000.


"I think the United States can do business with this man," said President Clinton"

Translation: "He's talked to Jiang Zehmin and he knows my price and is willing to meet it."

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), February 17, 2000.


Do ya'll think Clinton meant to say this?

-- Just Curious (jnmpow@flash.net), February 17, 2000.

Just the kind of powerful despot Clinton loves to hang with.

-- Powder (Powder47keg@aol.com), February 17, 2000.

Homer Beanfrag found another winner. Guess who the major source is...

"Platinum and paladium prices"

-- redeye in ohio (cannot@work.com), February 17, 2000.




I think the United States can do business with this man

-- Ivan (workin@ntherailroadallthelivelong.day), February 17, 2000.

"For The People's" Chuck Harder has been talking about the eventual re-organization and re-formation of the former Soviet Union for many years. The apparent 'demise' of the USSR may or may not have been largely a sham...but its re-formation will be a nasty collision with reality for all the UN loving Globalist One Worlders. They'll actually have a determined and well armed opponent to their nutsy Global Plantation / Global Village ideas. (translation=global slavery).

"It takes a village" of real idiots to have allowed and/or encouraged this to happen.

-- ObserverOfA (GlobalNightmareRealSoon@Now.com), February 17, 2000.


It seems apparent to me that Putin meets all the requirements for stepping into the role of strongman in Russia. He is ex-KGB. He is clearly a good infighter. He has the enthusiastic support of Yeltsin's crowd. He has a veneer of respectability.

When in the last century has the USA flinched from doing business with any non-Communist who wants to do business with us? Heck. If they're a big enough market and are perceived as more ruthless than ideological, even the non-Communist is optional.

In this respect, President Clinton is simply following the path blazed by the Fortune 500, like every President since before WWI. Yes, we did business with Hitler, too. Ford made a lot of money selling war materials to Adolph before 1942. Same time as Lend-Lease and the London Blitz was going on.

USA motto: it doesn't pay to be too picky about who you get into bed with, especially if they pay cash.

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), February 17, 2000.


To the President,

Dear sir,

Go do business with Putin next January, please, forever, dont ever come back, and take your wife.

-- JB (noway@jose.com), February 17, 2000.


For those of you who don't recognize Ivan's photo:

That is Neville Chamberlain declaring to the world that he (as the PM of England) had achieved "Peace in our time" with the signing of the Munich Pact with Adolph Hitler. What we must not forget is that most Brit's supported him and his pact.

Winston Churchill knew the score and declared that in truth it was a choice between war and shame and now (with this treaty) we will have both.

Clinton lacks character and real principles and if we ever find ourselves in a global scrape where only a leader with the vision of a Churchill could handle it I honestly fear for the results.

-- Dana (A_Non_O_Moose@xxx.com), February 17, 2000.



Well, the Chinese obviously thought Klintoon was the kind of man that they could do business with. And they did, much to our sorrow.

I wonder if Putin can expect the amounts of "business" that Klintoon got from the Chinese? And will it be greenbacks, rubles or gold?

I shudder to think of what his part of the deal will entail.

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), February 17, 2000.


RADIO ADDRESS OF THE PRESIDENT: May 27, 1941, 9.30 P.M., E.S.T. --- Proclaiming an Unlimited National Emergency

...There is, of course, a small group of sincere, patriotic men and women whose real passion for peace has shut their eyes to the ugly realities of international banditry and to the need to resist it at all costs. I am sure they are embarrassed by the sinister support they are receiving from the enemies of democracy in our midst -- the Bundists, (and) the Fascists, and Communists, and every group devoted to bigotry and racial and religious intolerance. It is no mere coincidence that all the arguments put forward by these enemies of democracy -- all their attempts to confuse and divide our people and to destroy public confidence in (our) Government -- all their defeatist forebodings that Britain and democracy are already beaten -- all their selfish promises that we can "do business" with Hitler -- all of these are but echoes of the words that have been poured out from the Axis bureaus of propaganda.

Those same words have been used before in other countries -- to scare them, to divide them, to soften them up. Invariably, those same words have formed the advance guard of physical attack...

-- DeeEmBee (macbeth1@pacbell.net), February 17, 2000.


Note: at the time of FDR's speech, poor old Neville Chamberlain (who was an experienced businessman and who apparently really did think that Britain could "do business" with Hitler) had resigned as PM and died in disgrace in November, 1940.

-- DeeEmBee (macbeth1@pacbell.net), February 17, 2000.

I guess this means the Russians will be stealing the towels and soap from the Lincoln Bedroom...

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), February 17, 2000.

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