MAJOR CANCER BREAKTHROUGH: Chinese Surgeons Turn Patients Malignant Tumor Into Ball Of Ice : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

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Chinese Doctors Hail Cancer Treatment Breakthrough 2-12-2000

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese surgeons are declaring a breakthrough in cancer treatment after turning a patient's malignant tumour into a ball of ice, state media said on Saturday. Doctors at Xijing Hospital in the northwestern city of Xian inserted a superconductive knife, two millimetres in diameter, into the tumour of liver cancer patient, Xinhua news agency said. By forcing high-pressure argon and helium gas through the knife point, they were able to lower the temperature of the tumour to -140 degrees Celsius (-220 Fahrenheit). "In 60 seconds, the tumour became an ice ball," the article said, adding "all cancer cells were killed." "The operation took only 30 minutes. The patient felt no pain and there was no bleeding," it said. "The therapy is a breakthrough in cancer treatment," it quoted Dou Kefeng, a surgeon in charge of the operation, as saying.

-- Zdude (, February 15, 2000


Awesome! Why didn't someone think of that sooner?

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 15, 2000.

If your left with some dead tissue inside you -wont gangrene set in?

-- Juan Valdez (, February 15, 2000.

China has 1/4 of the world population, so what does it matter if they lose a few thousand to unregulated experimental medicine (or was that WW2 era Germany)?

Superconductor = an electrical property of a material to pass awsome amounts of electrical current when cooled to near Absolute Zero (well past 400 degrees F. below zero). At -220F., we are not talking superconductor in the ELECTRICAL sense.

Surgical knife = Normally stainless steel due to the human body not reacting with the metal, and the fact that the porosity of the metal is very low and does not trap "garbage". Stainless is a very poor conducter of thermal energy, compared to copper, aluminum, tin, lead, solder, and other metals and alloys, so we are not talking superconductor in the THERMAL sense.

Cryogenics = Compressing a gas under extreme pressure (2500+ PSI) until it is in liquid form, then releasing it through a tiny orfice to expand and absorb thermal energy. The cooling effect of expanding any of the gasses that remain in gasseous form during the entire process is minimal and inefficient, so we are not talking cooling in the CRYOGENIC sense.

Overall, it appears to me that the author of the news was not talking in the COMMON sense, either.

Tampa Mike

-- A. TechieType (GetReal@Here.Net), February 15, 2000.

Has this been replicated in USA?

-- (, February 15, 2000.

Yes, they've done this in the U.S. for years, it's called "cryotherapy". The trouble with it is where the edge of the "ice ball" appears to be on CT or US is still viable tissue in many cases. With cancer treatment, that's not good enough.

Unfortunately, this has been tried and has failed. My only guess on why they're doing it in this case is the dismal prospects for treatment in someone with a big hepatocellular CA.

Just another uneducated J6P with an unfounded opinion,


-- Someone (, February 15, 2000.


No, gangrene sets in in the presence of bacteria, and is basically an infection of tissue. Inside the body if a piece of tissue dies, it is liquefied to some extent and/or fibrosed, but in general does not present a health hazard in itself. There are some lethal exceptions to this, obviously.


-- Someone (, February 15, 2000.

did they happen to mention that the patient was a political dissident?

-- tt (, February 15, 2000.

There are plenty of other alternative therapies, and of course, they are not legally available here in the US (that ol' greed steppin' in again...most of the following therapies are curative after only a few treatments and some can be replicated for very little money, you see). However, you can go to Canada, New Zealand, Australia or Europe and avail yourself of alternative therapies. Some of these include: introveneous ozone therapy, hyperbaric oxygen chamber therapy (excellent for runaway bacterialogical infection...not illegal here in the US, but rarely used for this purpose) Rife therapy, or you can simply buy or build yourself a blood electrification unit, the theory from which was based on 3 patents awarded to Dr. Caali of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York in 1993, where they established an extremely high rate of viral die off when 100 microamperes of electricity was applied to a petri dish of aids virus swimming in human blood.

All of them work, all of them will ameliorate symptoms of, and often outright cure, the disease with little or no side effects.

State of the Art Instruments

Beck Technologies

Another good source for Rife/Beck technology blood electrification units

Don't take my word for the internet for yourself.

-- OR (, February 15, 2000.

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