So, arn't they?

-- John Q (john@home.com), February 08, 2000

Answers

Come on, John, what Kosky's crew *really* intended to say was that y2k would make it no *less* likely that planes would fall from the sky after rollover... (I'm just thankful they generally aren't coming down two at a time. I thought the problem, if any, would be mid-air collisions from a failure of the ATC systems.)

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), February 08, 2000.

They sure are, and I think the majority of the problems are Y2K related. I knew that they didn't check out the on-board computers as thoroughly as they should have, considering people's lives are at stake. They should have listened to us, we tried to warn them to take this problem seriously, and now it's too late. Very sad.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 08, 2000.

It's tragic, Hawk. People ridiculed and laughed at the idea and now it's clear that Y2K has already caused hundreds of deaths. How many hundreds and thousands more will have to die before they realize how serious these Y2K problems are?

-- (jeffDD@ticon.net), February 08, 2000.

The point of my criptic remark, among many others, is accountability. Do we even have a point of reference any more? When is truth the truth and when does anyone anymore have to account for what they say? And damn it all--the planes ARE falling down. So how many more makes their assertion untrue--what percentage of Down and what does Down and Falling mean---that's where I have had it. Up to here. No truth. No accountability. Just death and profit lines. RANT OFF

-- John Q (john@home.com), February 08, 2000.

Their assertion is already untrue. Y2K problems are crippling planes worldwide and have already caused hundreds of needless deaths. I doubt anything will be done before thousands upon thousands more end up dead.

-- (jeffDD@ticon.net), February 08, 2000.

Hey there-Y2Kpro- Don't upset the guy too much because he's a potty mouth and uses nasty words as a last ditch effort. Somebody sat on his toy P-51 years ago and he never got over it.

-- Liberal Hater (liberty@bell.com), February 08, 2000.

Y2K Pro,

By and large, statistics is all we have. If there is a statistically significant difference between the number of plane crashes since the rollover and the same period, say last year, then it means that something DID happen at rollover. Could be anything. But to the overwhelming majority of people who have the slightest clue about y2k, there isn't many possible causes to investigate... Doesn't require a great deal of neurons to fire up at the same time.

By the way, it won't be long before someone studying statistics in a college somewhere will get the idea to take a closer look and do a little mathematically-sound study. That person should get going soon, however. S/he may help prevent needless deaths.

However you may be more clever than the rest of us. Maybe you do have a good explanation why there are so many plane crashes these days. Please keep us informed!

-- JD (cogito_ergo_sum@usa.net), February 08, 2000.

Please don't feed Y2K Poop's anal retentive spamming compulsion.

-- trolls suck (energy@from.Forums), February 08, 2000.

If there is a statistically significant difference between the number of plane crashes since the rollover and the same period, say last year, then it means that something DID happen at rollover.

No it does not. Like the pipelines breaking, you are just more aware and looking for things you can attribute to Y2K, but like cases of chicken pox in children, not everything there is an increase in can be tied to Y2K. T-51 days and counting......

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), February 08, 2000.

Cherri,

Let's assume quite hypothetically that there has been 15 crashes of planes carrying 80 to 100 passengers in January 2000, while there has been an average of 1 such crash every January since 1955, with never more than 3 during any month of January until now. Would this tell you anything at all? It would to 99.999% of the world population. But you can always say that people didn't know how to count. Or that they forgot to register accidents. Or plane crashes went undetected. You can even question the objectivity of truth. Many people have done that before you. You can even believe that the universe we live in is what is depicted in Matrix.

-- JD (cogito_ergo_sum@usa.net), February 08, 2000.

What kind of logic are you folks using?? You are drawing conclusions simply based on what may or may not be a statistical anomoly and saying there is only one reason for it-Y2K. Wow. I wish science and inquiry were that easy.

Would any one of you like to explain to us all EXACTLY how a date- sensitive function could have dropped those planes out of the sky? Details, details, details-The lack of them is exactly why I originally concluded Y2K would at worst be a 2. Please, please someone tell me exactly how these plans crashed due to y2k.

An answer from Hawk would be appreciated.

-- Futureshock (gray@matter.com), February 08, 2000.

Futureshock, perhaps you'd like to prove to all of us why this could not POSSIBLY be a Y2K problem.

-- (jeffDD@ticon.net), February 08, 2000.

I'd really like someone to point out precisely what difference it makes whether all or some or any of these incidents are associated with a Y2k problem.

What I think about it isn't going to change the facts. What you think about it isn't either.

What I think about it isn't going to fix anything that needs fixing. What you think about it isn't either.

These continuing arguments seem to be inspired primarily by a need to defend (or attack) the self-esteem of various individuals. And by the curious conviction that there is widespread interest in the outcome of these quarrels.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), February 09, 2000.

I'd really like someone to point out precisely what difference it makes whether all or some or any of these incidents are associated with a Y2k problem.

Gee Tom, what's this board called? What have we been arguing about for the past few years? What was Ed Yourdon's book about?

These incidents are PROOF that we were right about Y2K, and that the pollies responsible for covering up these problems and ridiculing doomers should be held accountable for the deaths of the passengers involved.

These continuing arguments seem to be inspired primarily by a need to defend (or attack) the self-esteem of various individuals. And by the curious conviction that there is widespread interest in the outcome of these quarrels.

If you find no interest in them, then why are you reading them?

-- (jeffDD@ticon.net), February 09, 2000.

Heeeee heeeee heee heeee hee hee, you notice Y2K Pro, I din't even bother to waste my time responding to your moron ass on the other threads, because I know you're gonna be deleted.

ROTFLMAO!!!

I think that is funny. You're such a retard that you spend all your time posting stuff here that immediately gets deleted. What a pathetic life you have, loser.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 09, 2000.

Thanks sysops! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 09, 2000.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Gaaawd Y2KPro, is this your job, being a full-time retard??? I can't imagine anyone paying you to do anything!

LOL!!!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), February 09, 2000.

Hey hawk (like the sound made when producing plegm) and other soapmakers, check out www.airsafe.com to read up on how many planes fall out of the sky any month of any year.

-- ProudPolly (Proud2b@polly.net), February 09, 2000.