OT Law enforcement ...pay as you go?

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LAPD is saying they need more money to avoid more scandals. Can money indeed buy honesty?..I doubt it.

My son married a wonderful girl from Indonesia. She says that police there won't help you unless you give them a bribe. I certainly don't paint all the police with the same brush, there are many who are serious about 'serving and protecting', may God bless them.

But as I look at the future of this country I see a sad picture of greed from all professions. Notably the medical and legal professions. They are in a position to advance their financial position in many ways that the average joe will never have. And yet, the average joe is the grease that keeps this giant money machine well lubricated and running smooth.

I hope i'm wrong about the future, but I get the feeling that we are on a non-stop cultural slide that will force us to hit bottom unless we make a huge effort now to reverse our greedy, self centered society.

I appreciate the opportunity to use this forum to give my opinion on off topic items and enjoy others off topic opinions

-- Kelly (romper1@aol.com), February 06, 2000

Answers

Well first of the police are there to protect the State and Serve their laws . Their JOB is not to protect & serve the public.

More recently, in 1982 (Bowers v. DeVito), the Court of Appeals, Seventh Circuit held, "...there is no Constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect its residents... but it does not violate... the Constitution." Later court decisions concurred: the police have no duty to protect you.

More SUPREME COURT RULINGS.

Boyd v. United States, 116 US 616: "The Court is to protect against any encroachment of constitutionally secured rights (liberty)."

Read Congressman Ron Pauls Speech Part 2

-- AW Dragon (awdragon@yahoo.com), February 06, 2000.


And this is one reason we the people need our guns. I'm talking about people who are law abiding, not people who doesn't follow the laws. It is better if people learn the right way to use guns and they safe storage. I have had guns all my life not one person has been hurt.

-- ET (bneville@zebra.net), February 06, 2000.

All the more reason to oppose any efforts to take our guns away from us. First they say they don't have to protect us, and I agree. There's no practical way for the police to protect everyone. But then the government wants to take our best method of self-defense away too. California isn't going along with it, nor will I!

-- Powder (Powder47keg@aol.com), February 06, 2000.

Kelly:

I too have noted this crisis in the 'professional world'. It extends throughout education [and perhaps all professions] as well. Its scope is historically unparalleled, I think.

On the other hand, the massive growth of self-help, home-schooling, do-it-yourself guides, the internet, personal faith, etc..., all point to, and allow, a new era of individualistic competency.

Often, in a relatively short matter of time, its now possible for an intelligent, motivated, mature adult to become quite 'educated'-- even relatively skillful-- in whatever field or endeavor they wish.

Perhaps even now this reasonably well 'managed' era is transitioning into something beyond a mere collection of specialties and specialists.

If so, what will we call the new period? By what distinction(s) might we define it?

-- tim phronesia (phronesia@webtv.net), February 06, 2000.


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