4 Gig AVI Compression

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i am using Windows2000 when i capture with my Hauppauge WinTV and the Direct X there lets you make 4 gig AVI's but my problem is this when i load the AVI into Adobe Premiere 5.1 it crashes!! and it should be able to edit it and under properties it say the the file is -2.7 gig!!!! wierd Also i have tried to compress it with Ligos LSX 3.0 and Panasonic 2.3 MPG encoders but they stop at 2 gigs!! If any one can help then please do!! is there a AVI cutter that lets me cut the AVI up into 2*2 gig AVI's ???

-- Thomas Petersen (dkwolf@easyfrag.dk), February 04, 2000


I have yet to find a fast efficiant way to split up AVI's but if you use


Then you can spread out the capture over loads of different files and drives and it doesn't drop any frames in the process. =)

Tinnes =)

-- Thomas Innes (Thomas@tinnes.freeserve.co.uk), February 05, 2000.


I have tried using AVI_IO to capture a 70 min video. It dropped over 3000 frames but the avi files it produced could be played without problem. Strange thing happens when I try to encode the first avi file into mpeg. What is supposed to be 30 min video becomes only 12 min long. Obviously, a lot has been lost. No error message was shown throughout encoding.

Does anyone know why?

-- Daniel Lee (siangneng@sp.edu.sg), February 05, 2000.

Premiere currently has a 2G limit for avi files, it will not handle 4G files at all, its always been that since I started using premiere in early 1994 and nothing has changed since.

You can put more than that on the time line and infact I have often for vcd's used 8G on the timeline provided no segment is greater than 2G. After editing it can be cut up into a maximum of 2G files and joined manually OR by using ddclip if your going to tape.

AV_IO although allowing for up to 4G segments, must be used with premier in the 2G limit mode. The 2G limit is of course applied by Bill Gates and is not the fault of Adobe or any other software supplier.

I have said several times on this site that the standalone encoders we use have the same limitations and will not handle greater than 2G files. In this game you develop ways to get around the problems. IN GENERAL THE 2G LIMIT IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR VCD'S. Check the archives, maybe you will find my postings on this subject - then again I have complained about the search facility on this site so I will just add some comments to finish this posting off.

The time line encoder plugins for adobe premiere are only limited by "no segment on the time line exceeding 2G" and the output of course being limited only by the size of your CD - thats one solution if you consider the quality is good enough and you have big enough hdd space. In analogue AV_IO is the salvation for those wanting big captures.

As far as cutting up the avi's into 2G files, it is easily done in premiere by completing the edit first and then using the razor blade to cut the time line into 9 minute segments but for vcd's all this is totally un-necessary.

If you use an intermediate resize avi such as Intels 5.11 the limit becomes about 33 to 35 minutes and thats far more agreeable. This system also generates a better standard of vcd but takes longer to achieve the end result.

One of these days some standalone encoder supplier might finally get their act together and produce an encoder that will batch process avi's into one mpeg output and that will make things a lot easier. I asked LSX to do this months and months ago but so far they have not delivered despite agreement with the idea. Imagine being able to edit in small segments and then encode a vcd as one 72 minute track.

The 1394 firewire related systems have a 4g limit and that is an advantage as it means premiere edited files can be put back together in 2G blocks and 18 minutes used instead of 9 minutes when going to tape. But for vcd's the get around solution that increases the limitation to 33 minutes is a far better option.

-- Ross McL (rmclennan@esc.net.au), February 06, 2000.

The 2GIG 4GIG limit is caused by the F**king windows 98 kernel.The FAT 32 file system has a ridiculous limit of 4GIG's.If you use Linux or Win2K you can fill up your hard drive with one continuous video if you felt like it.Premiere will still crash unless they have a WIN2K or Linux version.

-- Ethan Crane (koros8@hotmail.com), April 21, 2001.

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