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Federal Reserve Board Reportedly Considering Emergency Session

By Sherman H. Skolnick 2-3-2000 A reported emergency has been developing regarding two major banks and a major bond and gold trading firm. The highly secretive Federal Reserve, America's PRIVATE central bank, is reportedly considering the possiblity of an emergency session. The necessity apparently of an emergency session has been caused in part, or in whole, by the following: [1] Rumors have apparently been sweeping Wall Street that one of the world's largest, if not THE largest bond and gold trading firm, Goldman Sachs, is possibly going under. This stems reportedly in part from the U.S. Treasury's announcement that it is reducing 30 year Treasury Bond supply. Goldman Sachs reportedly has been heavily speculating in derivatives, that little-understood, highly dangerous tinkering with assets inside of assets inside of and linked to underlying assets. {Remember how Orange County California went bankrupt by their reported speculating with these mysterious manipulations called "derivatives".] Goldman Sachs reportedly has been in the forefront of worldwide efforts to knock down the price of gold and reap huge profits at the expense of workers and stockholders of the gold mining industry.[A South African gold mine went into bankruptcy in 1999 when the "wreck the price of gold" crowd, including the Bank of England, forced gold down to just over 250 dollars per ounce. The average cost of production of gold, by the best, most efficient mines, is about 285 dollars per ounce.] The derivative gambling, in the trillions of dollars, is a complex formula of tricks, involving gambling on gold and oil and Treasury Bonds, all interwoven like a group of Chinese magic boxes inside of boxes inside of boxes. When gold shot up from 252 dollars per ounce to 330 dollars per ounce in the fall of 1999, some contended at the time that Goldman Sachs and other gold trading houses were heavily SHORT on gold and could not come up with the gold supply to make good the LONG speculators that reportedly included worldwide financial pirate George Soros. At the time, there was reason to believe that Goldman Sachs would invoke an emergency clause, used when there are storms, wars, and revolutions interfering with complying with contracts, called Force Majeure. [For background see our prior story: "Bank of England and the Gold Crisis", on our website.] [2] Goldman Sachs is reportedly in a sinking boat with Germany's huge financial ship, Deutsche Bank, and the worldwide bank octopus Bank of America. This trio are major players in Foreign Exchange, called ForEx, trading and speculating in foreign currencies. If the emergency continues, the Federal Reserve, according to some bond and gold experts, would have to come up with some 600 Billion Dollars, as a rescue attempt for the reputed trio of bust financial players. According to other financial sources, the Federal Reserve can come up with 130 Billion dollars, that is, some say, "the limit of the number of lifeboats the Fed can supply in a hurry". Beyond that, some experts contend, the Fed would have to order the printing of a flood of paper money, falsely masquerading as the "U.S. Dollar", in fact, Federal Reserve notes backed by nothing but hot air. [3] Do not expect the sphinx-like Federal Reserve to admit there IS an emergency and that they are considering an emergency session of their highly-secretive deliberations. Some extremely well-informed financial experts have their views posted on a website called: http://www.LeMetropoleCafe.com [a summary can be obtained, but further details require you to be a subscriber]. They quote a bond dealer as saying "something should happen because this thing is lethal for all asset swappers". [4] Bank of America, headquartered in San Francisco, already is facing billions of dollars of problems as the result of a suit filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco. The details of that suit have been publicized primarily only by us. It is a class action on behalf of victims, heirs, and beneficiaries, of World War Two whose assets were stolen by the Nazi puppet government of Croatia, the Ustasha, and later secretly deposited during and after the war reportedly with the Vatican Bank. [Emil Alperin, et al vs. Vatican Bank, No. C99-4941 MMC, in the U.S. District Court, Northern District of California. Details of the suit as well as the complete First Amended Complaint are on our website: http://www.skolnicksreport.com under the title "Vatican Bank Sued For Alleged War-Crimes"]. Little-known by the public, and rare if ever mentioned by the monopoly press, Bank of America, and its parent holding firm, Bank America, are owned jointly by the Vatican Bank, the Jesuits, and the Rothschilds. In recent years, also a major owner of Bank America reportedly have been the Japanese mafia, the Yakuza which own a major interest in most every bank in California. Seldom reported, the Yakuza are major dope traffickers in the U.S. What may come of the situation, which some financial experts contend is an emergency or an emergency developing? An inflation may develop as a result of the Federal Reserve ordering up a huge supply of paper money to be used to bail out the reported sinking ship containing Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, and Bank of America. The price of gold would go UP if the so-called "U.S. Dollar" goes DOWN. Further, Clinton would welcome an emergency, real or fabricated, so he could stay in office beyond the expiration of his term. Those close to him have been quoted as saying they heard Clinton say he would not mind staying beyond his term by some emergency. And will an emergency, real or fake, intefere with U.S. Presidential election? Stay tuned. _____ BULLETIN - Primary Bond Dealer in Trouble / Oil Products on Fire From Bill Murphy - Le Patron www.LeMetropoleCafe.com 2-3-00 Le Metropole members, Rumors are sweeping Wall Street that a primary bond dealer is going under as a result of the Treasury's announcement that it is reducing 30 year Treasury bond supply. The Fed has denied an emergency session has been called,but does not deny a big dealer in trouble. 30 year bond yields have collapsed in a very short period of time from 6.76% to 6.06%. Forward price 30 years are even lower in yield. There are many market players caught the wrong way on yield curve trades as the curve has now inverted in what must be record time. From a Cafe European bond dealer: "something should happen because this thing is lethal for all asset swappers" Banking stock index diving. Meanwhile, the cash market for oil products are on fire with cash prices way above NYMEX. Situation very explosive. Gold only up $1.40 in this VERY BULLISH gold market environement. Manipulation crowd desperate to hold gold price down to avoid a gold derivative blow up as is occuring in the bond market. More later http://www.LeMetropoleCafe.com/scripts/products.cfm All the best, Bill Murphy Le Patron www.LeMetropoleCafe.com ============ Since 1958, Mr. Skolnick has been a court reformer and since 1963, founder/chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, divulging certain instances of judicial and other bribery [often involving banks owned and operated by judges] and instances of political murders. Since 1991, he has been a regular panelist, and since 1995, moderator/producer of "Broadsides", a one-hour, weekly, public access Cable TV Show cablecast within Chicago to some 400,000 viewers. For a heavy packet of printed stories by our group, send $5.00 [U.S. funds] and a stamped, self-addressed, BUSINESS size envelope [#10 envelope, 4-1/4 x 9-1/2] WITH THREE STAMPS ON IT, to Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, Sherman H. Skolnick, Chairman, 9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870. Office, 8 a.m. to midnight, 7 days, (773) 375-5741. [PLEASE, no "just routine calls]. E-Mail: skolnick@ameritech.net WEBSITE: http://www.skolnicksreport.com [ NOTE "s" after my name in website] Before sending FAX, call.

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FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD REPORTEDLY CONSIDERING EMERGENCY SESSION

by Sherman H. Skolnick


A reported emergency has been developing regarding two major banks and a major bond and gold trading firm. The highly secretive Federal Reserve, America's PRIVATE central bank, is reportedly considering the possiblity of an emergency session. The necessity apparently of an emergency session has been caused in part, or in whole, by the following:

[1] Rumors have apparently been sweeping Wall Street that one of the world's largest, if not THE largest bond and gold trading firm, Goldman Sachs, is possibly going under. This stems reportedly in part from the U.S. Treasury's announcement that it is reducing 30 year Treasury Bond supply. Goldman Sachs reportedly has been heavily speculating in derivatives, that little-understood, highly dangerous tinkering with assets inside of assets inside of and linked to underlying assets. {Remember how Orange County California went bankrupt by their reported speculating with these mysterious manipulations called "derivatives".] Goldman Sachs reportedly has been in the forefront of worldwide efforts to knock down the price of gold and reap huge profits at the expense of workers and stockholders of the gold mining industry.[A South African gold mine went into bankruptcy in 1999 when the "wreck the price of gold" crowd, including the Bank of England, forced gold down to just over 250 dollars per ounce. The average cost of production of gold, by the best, most efficient mines, is about 285 dollars per ounce.]

The derivative gambling, in the trillions of dollars, is a complex formula of tricks, involving gambling on gold and oil and Treasury Bonds, all interwoven like a group of Chinese magic boxes inside of boxes inside of boxes.

When gold shot up from 252 dollars per ounce to 330 dollars per ounce in the fall of 1999, some contended at the time that Goldman Sachs and other gold trading houses were heavily SHORT on gold and could not come up with the gold supply to make good the LONG speculators that reportedly included worldwide financial pirate George Soros. At the time, there was reason to believe that Goldman Sachs would invoke an emergency clause, used when there are storms, wars, and revolutions interfering with complying with contracts, called Force Majeure. [For background see our prior story: "Bank of England and the Gold Crisis", on our website.]

[2] Goldman Sachs is reportedly in a sinking boat with Germany's huge financial ship, Deutsche Bank, and the worldwide bank octopus Bank of America. This trio are major players in Foreign Exchange, called ForEx, trading and speculating in foreign currencies. If the emergency continues, the Federal Reserve, according to some bond and gold experts, would have to come up with some 600 Billion Dollars, as a rescue attempt for the reputed trio of bust financial players. According to other financial sources, the Federal Reserve can come up with 130 Billion dollars, that is, some say, "the limit of the number of lifeboats the Fed can supply in a hurry". Beyond that, some experts contend, the Fed would have to order the printing of a flood of paper money, falsely masquerading as the "U.S. Dollar", in fact, Federal Reserve notes backed by nothing but hot air.

[3] Do not expect the sphinx-like Federal Reserve to admit there IS an emergency and that they are considering an emergency session of their highly-secretive deliberations.

Some extremely well-informed financial experts have their views posted on a website called: www.LeMetropoleCafe.com [a summary can be obtained, but further details require you to be a subscriber]. They quote a bond dealer as saying "something should happen because this thing is lethal for all asset swappers".

[4] Bank of America, headquartered in San Francisco, already is facing billions of dollars of problems as the result of a suit filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco. The details of that suit have been publicized primarily only by us. It is a class action on behalf of victims, heirs, and beneficiaries, of World War Two whose assets were stolen by the Nazi puppet government of Croatia, the Ustasha, and later secretly deposited during and after the war reportedly with the Vatican Bank. [Emil Alperin, et al vs. Vatican Bank, No. C99-4941 MMC, in the U.S. District Court, Northern District of California. Details of the suit as well as the complete First Amended Complaint are on our website: www.skolnicksreport.com under the title "Vatican Bank Sued For Alleged War-Crimes"]. Little-known by the public, and rare if ever mentioned by the monopoly press, Bank of America, and its parent holding firm, Bank America, are owned jointly by the Vatican Bank, the Jesuits, and the Rothschilds. In recent years, also a major owner of Bank America reportedly have been the Japanese mafia, the Yakuza which own a major interest in most every bank in California. Seldom reported, the Yakuza are major dope traffickers in the U.S.

What may come of the situation, which some financial experts contend is an emergency or an emergency developing? An inflation may develop as a result of the Federal Reserve ordering up a huge supply of paper money to be used to bail out the reported sinking ship containing Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, and Bank of America. The price of gold would go UP if the so-called "U.S. Dollar" goes DOWN. Further, Clinton would welcome an emergency, real or fabricated, so he could stay in office beyond the expiration of his term. Those close to him have been quoted as saying they heard Clinton say he would not mind staying beyond his term by some emergency. And will an emergency, real or fake, intefere with U.S. Presidential election? Stay tuned.


Since 1958, Mr.Skolnick has been a court reformer. Since 1963, founder/chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, disclosing certain instances of judicial and other bribery and political murders. Since 1991 a regular panelist, and since 1995, moderator/producer, of one-hour,weekly public access Cable TV Show, "Broadsides", Cablecast on Channel 21, 9 p.m. each Monday in Chicago. For a heavy packet of printed stories, send $5.00 [U.S. funds] and a stamped, self-addressed business sized envelope [4-1/4 x 9-1/2 #10 size] WITH THREE STAMPS ON IT, to Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, Sherman H. Skolnick, Chairman, 9800 South Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870. Office, 7 days, 8 a.m. to midnight, (773) 375-5741 [PLEASE, no "just routine calls]. Before sending FAX, call.

Skolnicks Report Home Page



-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), February 04, 2000.

Thanks Possible Impact!

I just finished nosing around in your source code for your "Excellent Stratfor Thread" below to try and figure out how to properly format a story when I go to post it. And I believe I've got it figured out!

I'm just as tired as everyone else on this Board with how my "Cut and Paste" postings have been coming out in "One Big Run On Blob Of Text!" But hopefully this will be the last thread everyone has to endure in that manner!

Although, you may have to continue to endure some of my "Oddball Postings" from time to time! (Grin)

Thanks All,

Zguy

P.S. Everything I know about Hyperlinks, Cut and Paste Etc, I've learned from my "Fine Helpful Friends" on this Board starting with a thread asking how to "Hot Link on January 16th" of this year!

Thanks Again Everyone! (I'm Having The Time Of My Life!)

-- Zguy (its@bubble.con), February 04, 2000.


---I personally hope everyone of these large "something for nothing" ponzi scheme institutions are eventually "outed" even more, and that they do "fail", and that some of the decades long manipulations see the light of public day. They hide behind somber facades of "investing" and fiduciary sophistication, and they are no better than any other con men, it's just a matter of size. That's what they are sophisticated in, covering up vast financial crimes, and using their wealth to keep their friends in office and to own, influence and control the media.

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), February 04, 2000.

Thanks for this post Zguy.

We DEFINITELY need to investigate this kind of thing. Let's shie the light on these things.

-- Rick (rick7@postmark.net), February 04, 2000.


uh??? This doesn't pass the smell test. Yes, derivatives are probably what are going to cause the next depression if the baling wire and chewing gum ever let go. Yes, anybody shorting gold last summer has their tail in the wringer.

However, specifically, "If the emergency continues, the Federal Reserve, according to some bond and gold experts, would have to come up with some 600 Billion Dollars, as a rescue attempt for the reputed trio of bust financial players." Yes, so far so good. No surprises there.

"According to other financial sources, the Federal Reserve can come up with 130 Billion dollars, that is, some say, "the limit of the number of lifeboats the Fed can supply in a hurry". Beyond that, some experts contend, the Fed would have to order the printing of a flood of paper money," Paper money?!? WHY? This makes zero sense. Did the Fed have to print paper money to bail out Chyrsler? No. Did they have to print up paper money to finance the Resolution Trust Company? No. Did they have to print up paper money to bail out Long Term Capital Management? No.

While the rest of the report makes sense and is at least believable, this the-moon-is-made-of-green-cheese statement makes me highly question Mr. Skolnick's sources.....

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), February 04, 2000.



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I work in I.S. at a financial services firm, and we have some contact with G.S. (through us in I.S., through shared financial services and vendors, at the broker level, etc.) Have not heard anything but good news from them. Take that for what it's worth, though, I have no "insider knowledge" about what's at the core of their investment strategies, and if this is true, they would do everything they could to keep the info only at the top levels for as long as possible.

If it is true it's a pretty moronic strategy on their part. Derivatives dependant on shorting strategies for gold? There are a lot of ways to make huge, huge bucks for firms in their position in this market, why go that route? This info does sound a little fishy...

-- Bemused (and_amazed@you.people), February 04, 2000.


Bemused,

You may be correct, However CNBC reported yesterday someone on Wall Street was in trouble but wouldnt say who? And a Market Investment Site that I subscribe to said the same thing but again, left it at a Rumor and wouldnt name any Names. Maybe well learn More Today?

Zguy

P.S. See my "Calling Gold Bugs" Thread Above.

-- Zguy (its@bubble.con), February 04, 2000.


We will probably only hear about it when the principals are ready:

"A week before the [Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund] bailout was negotiated at the headquarters of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Alan Greenspan, the Fed chairman, testified to Congress that bankers knew exactly what they were doing in the policing of hedge funds, and their attendant risks. On Sept. 16, he assured Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., that risk in hedge fund lending was well under control." http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/early/092598hedgefund-bailout.html (not online after 24 hours)

That was testimony before Congress, while the Fed was scrambling to rescue the situation. Greenspan did not think it necessary to advise that rather powerful entity of the LTCM fiasco, so I think it most unlikely that we will get wind of any current negotiations regarding and/or bailout of any large hedge fund until everyone's good and ready.

-- DeeEmBee (macbeth1@pacbell.net), February 04, 2000.


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