John mccain wife was wear a pin an eagle dwith a pearl in its' claw I have seen this on many women in government jobs what is this about?greenspun.com : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread
I first saw this when Hillery wore it,then Madlene and many others. This is not random this is some sort of club. Is this some sort of badge. Can you try to find what this pin means, I looked haven't had much luck. I am not the only one who has notest the same pin on many different groups of weman.
-- ET (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000
If the pearl symbolizes the male testicle, perhaps it's the "ballbuster" club pin.
Seriously, very observant, hope someone finds out the answer. The women, especially in anglo culture, are often the "power behind the throne", no?
-- Inever (Inevercheckmy@onebox.com), February 02, 2000.
These other government-type women you've seen wearing the pin...do you know who they are? If so, then you should find out if they aren't all Rhodes Scholars.
-- Cmdr Don (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
Washington women proudly wear the bird By Catherine Fitzpatrick of the Journal Sentinel staff February 22, 1998
The female power elite of the nation's capital are pinning their hopes for Hillary Clinton on with 'The Liberty Eagle.'
It is the patriotic equivalent of a campaign button, the female version of a fraternity pin, the avian adaptation of grandma's cameo.
The eagle pin (drum roll here) has landed.
Deep into the winter of Washington's discontent, the hottest trend in "statement jewelry" has come to roost upon the influential lapels of a flock of high-flying women.
Late last month, the first lady fastened a gold-tone eagle pin to her lapel, strode confidently before the cameras of NBC's "Today Show" and defended the ethics, morals, honor, integrity, courage, perseverance and upright qualities of her husband. Up to -- but not including -- his fidelity.
A week or so later, President Clinton's personal secretary, Betty Currie, clamped on one of the pins the day she testified to grand jury investigators, reportedly saying that the president and Monica Lewinsky were sometimes alone together. Etcetera.
About the same time, bird-watchers spotted another member of the species on Lady Bird Johnson, appearing on "The CBS Evening News With Dan Rather."
Now comes mustachio'd Donna Shalala, secretary of health and human services, depicted in the latest "Where's your mustache?" milk ad with the same winged-eagle pin nesting amid the folds of her scarlet pin-striped jacket.
What's the word on the gold-plated birds? Audubon style trend? Nineties version of the "I'm a star-spangled American" flag pin?
Secret sisterhood. Or so it seems.
Suddenly, after languishing in inside-the-Beltway jewelry boxes for years, the bird brooch is soaring into the limelight as a not-very- covert symbol of solidarity. With the president and the first lady. Or with Hillary, period.
Depending on the wearer.
"Women's politics with respect to Bill Clinton may be a bit confused right now," said Mary Rasmussen, a member of the Democratic National Committee and resident of Boyceville, Wis., "but I have not heard women express confusion about solidarity with Hillary."
Loyalty to the entire Clinton administration is the reason Ann Lewis, director of White House communications, retrieved her eagle pin from its resting place a few weeks ago and took to wearing it again, she said.
During the 1996 presidential campaign, wearing the pin "became a symbol for women who were supporting the president," said Lewis. She worked on women's outreach issues back when she was deputy campaign manager and director of communications for the Clinton-Gore re- election campaign.
"Something about this atmosphere makes me feel as if we're in a campaign again," Lewis added.
"From the phone calls coming in, I have detected Americans want to rally round our first lady," the pin's designer, Ann Hand, says.
"So many admire her, her dignity and her grace under pressure," added Hand, in a phone interview from her home-studio in Washington's trendy Georgetown area.
But trying to pin down one of Hand's most politically savvy clients in such a blatantly partisan revelation is as futile as trying to capture two birds in a bush.
"I wish I could tell you it was political. It's (just) very much a Washington women's pin," Shalala said.
"It's one of my favorite pieces of jewelry . . . next to my gold Badger 'W' pin, of course . . . for the purposes of your article," said Shalala, former chancellor of the University of Wisconsin- Madison.
Although Shalala proudly displays the pin in milk ads splashed across newspapers coast to coast, her friend Andrea Mitchell, an NBC News Washington correspondent, doesn't dare wear it on network television.
Mitchell, wife of Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan, acknowledged through an NBC spokesman that Shalala had given her one of the pins for her 50th birthday.
"It has become a political statement in many circles, so therefore, being a journalist, she does not make political statements on the air . . . " said network spokesman Cory Shields.
Called "The Liberty Eagle," the pin was designed in 1992 by Hand. She is the wife of the former U.S. chief of protocol Lloyd Hand, who served the Johnson administration.
Lloyd Hand is a partner in a Washington law firm that lists former Sen. Robert Dole and former Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen on the letterhead.
Ann Hand counts among her friends and eagle-pin clients Betty Ford and Barbara Bush; Janet Langhart Cohen, wife of Defense Secretary William Cohen; Alma Powell, wife of retired Gen. Colin Powell; and the late Pamela Harriman, former U.S. ambassador to France. Tipper Gore has had the pin for ages, Hand said, and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright wore it for her swearing-in ceremony.
Amid the ongoing flap and flutter over Oval Office extracurricular activities, Hand's bird pins have been flying out of her studio. But will they migrate to the Heartland?
"The first thing that comes to mind is, where can I get that pin," said Rasmussen, a member of the Wisconsin Democratic Party's Administrative Committee.
Marilyn Nemeth of Racine, a retired teacher who holds membership on two Wisconsin Democratic Party committees, said she thinks symbolic or sisterly bird pins are fine, for other women.
"But I wouldn't spend the money," she added.
The $75 version of the pin is plated in 18-karat gold, with a tiny ruby eye and faux pearl. Those who want status and superiority buy the solid gold version, at $5,500.
"I can tell you that no public figure has bought the real ($5,500) version," Hand said.
The pins are available through the Ann Hand Collection catalog. For information, call (202) 333-2979. ------
-- mush (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
Remind me to rush out and get one for my wife...with a black pearl, though...
-- Mad Monk (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
I read the piece, I am sorry, but this is bull. This not washington. This is something else, we need to find out what now! I am a female and don't believe these statements. I think someone or an organization whats power. Who are they and what do they want.
-- ET (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
-- (Dawnbringr@aol.com), February 02, 2000.
Is seems like the best way to counter this trend is to go out and buy eagle pins gals and pin them on upsidedown, to show your disapproval.
-- eaglepin (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
I think so to but donno..yet. I found some of the interconnections among the folks mentioned in the article interesting tho.
here's a strange speculation clip from over in freerepublic Topic: White Water Golden Eagle and Pearl Pin
Shropster, I think you have it exactly correct. I put "Phoenix" and "light bearer" into Alta Vista and I got many hits. Here is the text of one site: The Morning Star, which is the East Star (the Phoenix, or Venus to the Romans), was the noc- turnal representation of the hidden Sun-god Osiris, or his soul according to Egyptian mythology. He was called "Athtar," the East Star, among the Arabs, which actually meant "Lucifer," the Illuminated One. The Masons have adopted the name "The Blazing Star" to describe this symbol which the evil sign of Witchcraft (the Pentagram) derived with its two horns (points) attacking Heaven. This explains it all.
From: A. Patriot () * 01/27/98 23:25:57 EST
-- mush (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
-- Pieter (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
oh, eaglepin, considering the list of folks wearing this pin, i prefer your approach. protest. just a few of the women listed are possible US versus UN patriots--the rest are more interested in using a symbol of OUR COUNTRY to support a politician or a political party. i don't think so........ the pin can rot.
-- tt (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
What a bunch of damn sneetches.
I vote for the straight pin.
-- (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
Mush,I think You need to put down Your"Bible"and read "Ali Baba and the forty Thieves".
-- nono (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
Many of us wear an inverted American flag, symbolizing a nation in distress.
-- Craig (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
"the masons have adopted..." Not lately, not in MY blue lodge, or my Scotish Rite Valley.
SHeesh these folks get the WEIRDEST stuff so VERY wrong.
-- Chuck, a night driver (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
I couldn't get past her good looks! She made me feel all warm and fuzzy.
-- John Thomas (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
Here's a quote from
"The Phoenix Bird is one of the foremost symbols of the Illuminati, according to Doc Marquis. Therefore, since Hillary Clinton is wearing this symbol, we can know conclusively that she is an Illuminist. Further, since this Illuminist lapel pin was worn by two people very close to President Bill Clinton, we can know for certain that he is an Illuminist, too. [This lapel pin was seen being worn by: Donna Shalala, Secretary of Health and Human Services and Bettie Currie, Clinton's Personal Secretary, see U.S. News & World Report, 2/9/98]."
It's an extensive article, along with many others, on Ms. Rodham and her husband.
-- John Galt (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
Got my eagle pin for $8 at Walmart. Mentioned to the jewelry counter clerk that it was like the pin Hillary wore; the clerk had no idea that it was a popular item.
I didn't know about all the controversy over the pin. Will probably just keep it in my jewelry box for awhile.
-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.Net), February 02, 2000.
All I know is, I could stay up with Cindy McCain all night long...
-- So Hot (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
Hey wait a minute...I don't have one of these pins. Darn...these gals went shopping without me again! And to think, I gave them my recipe for Spinach Dip and that's the thanks ya get. Geesh....
-- Dee (T1Colt556@aol.com), February 02, 2000.
Why would John McCain's wife, Hillary, and Mrs. Bush all wear the same pins? What could they possibly have in common to support? Maybe a pink breast cancer ribbon, but this? Maybe it's the female version of support for globalization? Anybody know how McCain feels about globalization?
-- Just Curious (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
I think clawing the testicle thing is the closest.
-- balls to the walls (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
Well, so long as we're talking about weird symbolism.....anybody see the new dollar coin yet?
The reverse shows and eagle in the classic posture of Horus the hawk, flying toward the left. There are three sets of stars, 4, 5, and 8, in a circle. 17 stars.
458 - Baal Peom, Lord of the opening.
584 - "Out, Lilith!" Lilith was Adam's evil wife.
845 - Neptune, the astroligical ruler of illusions.
Oh yeah, there's a woman on the front.
Damn strange symbolism. What a fluke. Yeah, right.
-- Hillbilly (Hillbilyl@possum.creek), February 02, 2000.
Do they have "Dove" pins for the rest of us?
Thanks for the link to it Pieter. Sure looks like an Imperial Eagle from Austria, or Russia, et. al. At least... reminds me of them... but I believe they were two-headed.
-- Diane J. Squire (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
I think their plan is eagle pins for them and chains for the rest of us.
-- Mr. Pinochle (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
I rather like eaglepin's "This parrot is dead!" idea.
John Galt, mush, and Hillbilly have inklings of the truth, but don't see the full hyperdimensional capabilities of the Daughters of Lilith. But honestly guys, we don't want your pretty little cojones, we're ballsy enough already. At Babalon-on-the-Potomac, even the nice Republican ladies who never wear white between Labor Day and Memorial Day are learning tantra in our chocolate pudding pits.When Election Day rolls around and the stars are in the configurations dreaded from the dawn of time, we'll all whip out our "Cthulhu for President-- why settle for the lesser evil?" bumperstickers.
-- Firemouse (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
Note the date on that article: February, 1998. We had not been through the whole nasty Monica/impeachment business yet, and I have to think that the pin may have lost some of its sisterhood connotation by now. Given that her husband has been quite vocal in his criticism and outright scorn for Clinton/Gore, it's seems very unlikely that Cindy McCain would associate herself with any symbolic sisterhood with Mrs. Clinton.
Rather interesting article from Salon, July 1999: "I'm Not Hillary" (What do Tipper Gore, Laura Bush, Ernestine Bradley and Cindy McCain have in common?)
I like Tipper Gore, but her taste in men is lousy and I wouldn't ever vote for Al, even if it meant not voting at all. Tipper's far more conservative (and fun) than either her hubby or the Clintons
-- DeeEmBee (email@example.com), February 02, 2000.
Just Curious, as schweet as she seems, I heard baba (you know, george's wife) is a glo(bab)list (haha). i think you pretty much have to be one to be a viable candidate for president these days. wah.
-- tt (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 02, 2000.
XXX DRUDGE REPORT XXX FRI FEB 04, 2000 13:58:22 ET XXX
MCCAIN WIFE WEARS 'HILLARY PIN'
The wife of GOP presidental hoeful John McCain stunned campaign watchers by wearing the famed "Hillary pin" as she celebrated victory in the New Hampshire Republican presidential primary, INSIGHT magazine is reporting.
The brooch, which has been gracing Democrat power suits from Secretary of State Madeleine Albright to Maryland Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend to Betty Currie, was poised prominently on the shoulder of an ebullient Cindy McCain on Tuesday night, reports the magazine's Sheila Cherry.
Former Clinton White House communications director Ann Lewis was quoted in the MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL in 1998 explaining how the pin -- golden bird, perched defiantly atop a pearlescent sphere -- "became a symbol for women who were supporting the president."
"Local sellers say most purchasers now consider it a solidarity statement supporting first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton," who wore it as she assailed a "vast right-wing conspiracy" on NBC's TODAY show in 1998.
Asked why Cindy McCain wore the pin, a McCain spokesman replied: "I will get back to you."
"But they never did," reports the mag.
-- the mystery deepens (email@example.com), February 04, 2000.
Cindy McCain has tried very hard to keep out of the limelight, apparently because she's afraid the media may have a field day with her problems with prescription drug addiction (e.g., Percocet). She certainly wants no controversy to distract from her husband's campaign. As noted, I think it unlikely that she was aware of the "Hillary" connection on that Liberty pin. Watch over the next few weeks, now that she has been made aware of it.
-- DeeEmBee (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 04, 2000.
tt, baby talk aside, George H. Bush was one of the biggest globalists ever elected to the presidency. I was hoping to draw out some informed opinions/connections of the globalists in our midst. I hear baby talk all day and go online for more stimulating conversations.
-- Just Curious (email@example.com), February 04, 2000.
Could be the "sisterhood" arm of the "Skull and Bones" (look for the movie "Skull" coming out soon -- it's not a "Scream 3" type movie but a "halls of power" type movie).
As far as women of both parties wearing it -- you have to remember that there is only ONE political party -- the NWO (Illuminati, Fabian) Party. Demopublicans and Republicrats are just two arms of it, engaged in mock battle to con the sheeple into thinking they have a choice. (Not to say that in any given policital office race, that both guys/gals don't want to win, and there can be only one, but who actually wins usually matters little, except for the occasional maverick. Take McCain -- interchange his and Bradley's brains/bodies and you wouldn't know the difference.)
Also, any secret society symbol eventually gets into the mainstream -- consider the Hebrew "star of David" and the Christian cross. That's why you'll now see that pin in WalMart or wherever, now.
-- A (A@AisA.com), February 04, 2000.
-- Patrick (firstname.lastname@example.org), February 04, 2000.
All: for more info go to
and check out the series "Trust No One, Mr. Hoagland"
and also "Investigation into the Enterprise Mission's Proposition..."
-- A (A@AisA.com), February 05, 2000.