Might not have gas after the weekend in Western Maine

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We were told this evening by the local Texaco dealer in town that when his tanks run out the gas is gone for who knows how long? He said to fill our tanks because he can't get delivery of any more gas . He doesn't know when he will get another shipment in.

Well looks like when the tank runs dry I either walk to work or not work. Needed a vacation anyways. Lots of kero he said tho. No problem there. Whew that's a relief. both of our heating sources use kero.

Will report back when I know more.. -15 tonight and getting colder. brrrrrrr....

-- jules (jules@fridgid.net), January 22, 2000

Answers

Assuming he pays his bills, he'll get gas and your report back will be another sad ending for the gas crisis mongerers.

Happy to be mocked if I'm wrong... It's cold here too, so I'll be punished severely for my ridicule.

-- ImSo (happy@prepped.com), January 22, 2000.


Hey ImSo ... MOCK

-- _ (_@_._), January 22, 2000.

I live on the west coast. We have no gas shortage. We haven't even had an increase (the price is about the same as it was late last year, at least at the local ARCO.)

It doesn't take *that* much work to truck gas across the country.

Any good explanation?

-- Steve (dont@bother.net), January 22, 2000.


Imso: I sincerely hope you are right but these men up here in the mountains don't lie. When they say something they mean it. They are just plain folks here. And they would give you the shirt off their backs in=f you needed it. Sorry but you may be mocked yet.

-- jules (jules@fridgid.net), January 22, 2000.

Steve: I haven't a clue. The papers here are all talking about how the suppliers are out of stuff. kero , gasoline and heating oil is getting low. Hope we find our new house with that wood stove soon. May be a long cold winter up here.

-- jules (jules@fridgid.net), January 22, 2000.


Yeah, like the principal supplier of the East Coast is Venezu, so to speak.

Guess things don't look too good on Lake Maracibo! LOL!! NOT Y2K!!

-- K. Stevens (kstevens@ It ALL ( including GASOLINE ) went away 22+ days ago .com), January 22, 2000.


I just reread my post and see how it could be misconstrued...I'm laughing at the IRONY of "NOT Y2K", not at the East Coast's plight.

Look, if it gets REALLY bad, the IEA at a global level, and the U.S. DOE on a national level will shuffle the cards and divert OIL from the West and move it East.

I guess this is therefore a LOCAL problem. ;-(



-- K. Stevens (kstevens @ It ALL went away 22+ days ago .com), January 22, 2000.


Steve,

You wanted a good explanation?? ...

Diesel shipments for the West Coast USA being diverted to the East Coast

"The West Coast is a segregated market- no pipes through the rockies so it dances to its own beat unless it gets 20 cents over the Gulf Coast, then its economical to ship through Panama out there ..."

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002NQ8

-- Cheryl (Transplant@Oregon.com), January 22, 2000.


Steve, you're right, it doesn't take that much work to truck gas to the East coast (from the West). But, apparently, you've never pulled into Gas/Food bar around Poughkeepsie, NY (about an hour north of Manhatten). You would not believe how much gas is pumped outta one of these stops in an hour (and these stops are everywhere, both north & southbound). There isn't enough trucks in the US of A to keep them going for a day.

-- Paranoia Will (Destroy_Y@BlackCopters.com), January 22, 2000.

There weren't any problems such as this last year, and as I recall the weather was more severe all over. Now the prices and supply on the East Coast are all over the place. Doesn't seem to be any problems elsewhere. There is no problem here in So. Calif, inland desert.

Something is fishy with something.

-- Richard (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), January 22, 2000.



Jules,

Keep us updated. Also, do you have alternate heat? I realize 99.9% of the forum does; just makin' sure!

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 22, 2000.


Does your power company use oil-fired generators? What's the status of their fuel supply? Is bunker oil being affected like diesel, kerosene and gasoline? Especially in the northeastern US coastal areas, where oil-fired generating plants are most common.

Do you have lots of blanket, candle and firewood? You just might need them.

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), January 23, 2000.


We have lots of blankets. Our alternate heat is kero too! We have the wall toyotomi and a kerosun heater. If worse comes to worse we will fire up the woodstove that is supposed to be not trustworthy but our supplier says he has lots of kero. Just not enough gasoline. Price of heating fuel went up 40 cents this week. Deisel is in short supply . Hope it warms up soon. There is a rumor going around that there are ships circling outside the harbor but that the weather is delaying the offloading of it. But these are rumors. I will keep you abreast of whatever I hear. Don't worry we won't get cold. We may not be able to drive anywhere is all.

-- jules (jules@fridgid.net), January 23, 2000.

Jules, I'm in southern Maine. Deisel in Portland went from 1.30/gallon to 1.89 in the past 7 days. Heating oil went from 1.13 to 1.75 in the same time period. I'm a building contractor and happen to be working on a house overlooking Casco Bay. The oil freighters come and go every day several hundred yards offshore right in front of me. I don't believe the rumors about the weather being too bad for them to offload. I see them all the time in bad weather. Thye come into Portland Harbor, go right under the new Cascxo Bay bridge and unload at the terminal in South Portland. We're feeling the shortage of Kerosene, deisel fuel, and heating oil here in the southern part of the state. No problems yet with gasoline, it only went up 10 cents in the past week. Local oil dealers are rationing supply, but are stating the will have more this coming week. I read the post a while ago about wholesale/barge prices for heating oil of $1.76 in New York City. I think the worst is yet to come. Just my opinion. I think we're using the fuels faster than we are currently producing them. It's showing up first in heating oil because that is in highest demand right now. It will be intersting to see what happens to the price of gas come spring.

-- country folk (countryfolk@Maine.Maine), January 23, 2000.

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