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Hi Everyone

I've been a daily lurker & ocassional poster here for over a year now which I suppose qualifies me as an Oldtimer, though not necessarily what some may consider a Regular. In any case, I'm a little curious as to how many other Oldtimers (including those who already said goodby) are still hangin' on here.

Ready, set... Sign in please.

-- Yan (no@no.no), January 22, 2000



ALL of them, at some time or another. Mostly lurking and watching. He, he.

-- Michael (michaelteever@buffalo.com), January 22, 2000.

Michael is a pretty old timer--right? But I'm older. Oh, did you mean time on the forum?

-- Mara (MaraWayne@aol.com), January 22, 2000.

Been lurking for some time. Don't make to many comments, not much of value to offer other than observations. Most everyone can do without my astute but limited wisdom.

I don't believe that we're out of the woods by a long shot yet. I value and appreciate the information brought here. Some trash, but then, that's what some of the buttons on this keyboard are for, aren't they? Buttons such as "end" or "page up", "page down"

-- Richard (Astral-Acres@webtv.net), January 22, 2000.

So how old do you have to be to be an oldtimer? Do you mean old as in here well before the rollover, as opposed to the PCLs? (Polly Come Lately)

If so, then I was here before and I am still here, most every day. And I intend to stay as long as there are interesting posts, thoughtful analysis, and an occasional laugh. It is beyond me why so many have bailed from the community they helped to create.

I rarely start a thread and only sometimes post a reply, but I am glad to know every one of you.

-- semper paratus (still_here_with@my.pals), January 22, 2000.

What semper paratus said.


-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.com), January 22, 2000.

I'm still around..... was never a fair weather sport before. I've got a dish of crow i plan on serving cold soooooooooon! And not because i want to.....

-- kevin (innxxs@yahoo.com), January 22, 2000.

I am a daily visitor since December 1998, a research lurker who felt completely out of it last year.

This forum is informative and improving in general content away from calamity reports.

I think Y2K is not necessarily about chips and processessors only. It is about people exploring their world prudently.

To Phil Greensun and his MIT people, all sysops and content contributors - you are fantastic.

Regards from Down Under with no departure intention, curious to see where it will all end up.

-- Pieter (zaadz@icisp.net.au), January 22, 2000.

I am not an old timer. I started coming here daily around September of 99. Every time I am ready to leave, someone posts good information which keeps me coming back. I am now mostly "lurking" and just scanning the posts about once a day and reading only one or two that are of interest.

-- JoseMiami (caris@prodigy.net), January 22, 2000.

How can one leave? Everyday is a new trip down the rabbit hole! Taz

-- Taz (Tassi123@aol.com), January 22, 2000.

Vorrei seriamente lasciare La Bomba A Orologeria 2000, ma ogni volta che sono circa a, le cose ottengo ancora piy sconosciuto

ed ottengo succhiato indietro dentro. Molti dei regulars potrebbero essere avversari, ma eventualmente siamo avversari amichevoli.

-- Butt Nugget (catsbutt@umailme.com), January 22, 2000.

Folks [Taz this one is for you ;o)]:

I remember Flint's first post and actually Diane's first. Been here forever. Didn't say much for a long while. Haven't had time to be involved. I do appreciate those who have had the time to contribute.

Best wishes,,,

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), January 22, 2000.

After a night of choir rehearsal ("choir riots"), I still check in here for fun and info(?). I have had a few nice intros to folks via this site. I have been here for about fourteen months. I am not a right wing, but left wing paranoid! The truth is out! ...oh, I have a very fine choir despite the "friendly riots".

-- churchorganist (swedishmusic@webtv.net), January 22, 2000.

And hasn't SHE changed???? WHOO!!

Still here agravating the agravatable


-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), January 22, 2000.

Been lurking since mid 1998 and very seldom post.... here... I'm well known and hated on De buncker however.... :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), January 22, 2000.

Only been lurking (and VERY occasionally posting) for about 4 months - can't really stay away too long; I check most every day for interesting stuff. The "news media"'s purpose is to suck our brains dry. (and then fill them with s**t) Pramada

-- pramada (pram108@yahoo.com), January 22, 2000.

I'm not new or old, just been here awhile. I read most posts and have learned so much. I like this board for the latest news, and gossip. Nothing gets past the folks here. Nothing. I post sometimes when I feel like being a part of the whole. The most fun thing I have learned here is how to mud wrassle.

-- Carol (glear@usa.net), January 22, 2000.


Too bad the KOS isn't here, He would be waxing poetic about the glistening bodys covered by the fine sheen of the best dehydrated Mud and Distilled water money could buy or store...


Don't give him back his stash until he agrees to come back.. :-)

-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), January 23, 2000.

Still Lurking and reading. Seems like the fat lady is still in the middle of the first stanza to me.

-- Ann Fisher (TOMFISHER1@PRODIGY.COM), January 23, 2000.

* * * 20000123 Sunday

Been "here" for over a year. Lots of noise, lately. Too bad.

I miss Ms. Squire's excellent posts, too!

At the risk of self-deprecation, I'm weary of the Polly/Whiners. Wish they would find something else to do if _this_ forum is not to their liking. Some folks just don't have a life, yet, I guess.

Salient, cogent information is required to focus on Y2K "smoldering."

I'll hang here for the duration, filtering the riff-raff from the Y2K nuggets.

Facts is {sic!} facts, denials notwithstanding.

Am satisfied that TEOTWAWKI hasn't, and likely won't, manifest. Caution re global Y2K economic fallout is the prudent direction.

Regards, Bob Mangus

* * *

-- Robert Mangus (rmangus1@yahoo.com), January 23, 2000.

Still lurking, not posting as much. I've been visiting here since summer 98, and don't regret it. Some interesting nuggets posted here, but you have to sort through the dirt to find the gold.

I never minded the difference of opinion, but sometimes the manner in which the message is delivered is another story. This place has multiple personalities...sometimes it resembles an evening with William F. Buckley, while other times it's like watching Jerry Springer.

Some folks need to bone up on the art of civil discourse...however, IMO, this board is still worth visiting.

-- Tim (pixmo@pixelquest.com), January 23, 2000.

I'm a lurker now...but I'm still here.

-- Uncle Bob (UNCLB0B@AOL.COM), January 23, 2000.


>I remember Flint's first post and actually Diane's first. Been here forever. Didn't say much for a long while. Haven't had time to be involved. I do appreciate those who have had the time to contribute.<

I too remember those things. But, unlike you, I have never let any lack of message quality interfere with my posting quantity. What little intelligence that I have will be shared with all of you in spite of your pleas and wishes.

You remember when we gave Ms. Diane a little bit of a hassle over her lurking about in the tree branches? Ah yes, the days of yore.

I'll be here as long as the forum continues to be attended by the finest collection of wit, charm, and intellect to be found anywhere on the net. I guess you folks will just have to grin and bear it.

Live with it - I do.(G)


-- sweetolebob (buffgun@hotmail.com), January 23, 2000.

George here, pretty much an old-timer I guess, since fall 1998.

In passing, allow me to repeat that the importance of the February 29 issue is being underestimated by this forum, including impact on embeddeds. As a matter of fact, my thread on "February 29" was almost dismissed by all, including Ed Yourdon. It's still 'alive', but agonizing. Almost no debate though.

Also unexpected factors such as the flu may affect key IT (and non- IT) staff health when most needed (EOM fixes and 'manual workarounds'), as the flu epidemic is getting worse, not better. Check out the NFSN map yourselves! This has also been dismissed as un- important. My thread on flu is also alive still, with some interesting comments, but not from forum regulars.

By the way, fuel problems may also affect IT and non-IT key staff access to work, heating, etc., also when most needed (EOM). But surely this will also be dismissed by many/most.

I still believe that Y2K didn't land in a vacuum, and everything will just compound on the original problem. Chaos theory principles fully apply to y2k.

Take care

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), January 23, 2000.

I'm in full asbestos lurk mode...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 23, 2000.

Still up here in Alaska. Gas at $1.669 regular. Still prepped.

-- seraphima (seraphima@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

Been around, under my real name and now this handle, maybe since late 1998.

Agree that the "doomers" who've bailed puzzle me a bit. Must have been those ones who "overprepped", with a whole months worth of supplies........

Polly/trolls, I am still of the opinion that fear is fueling some of this behavior. That, and the world view that if you talk about something, you will somehow make it happen.

-- mushroom (mushroom_at_bs_too_long@yahoo.com), January 23, 2000.

I'm older than dirt, of course, but haven't been here as long as some. I can't remember exactly how long--or why. Anybody seen my glasses?

NG, got your message ;)

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), January 23, 2000.

Over a year. Who could resist this place? News, wit, wisdom and a steady supply of trolls for target practice!

Here to stay,

-- Charli (claypool@belatlantic.net), January 23, 2000.

Part of me left with King of Spain. (sigh) The rest lingers on for its daily mental fix. I have never met a bunch of online people with more courage, silliness, eloquence, wit, perception and heart as I have here.

-- Normally (Oxsys@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

I've been here since summer of '98. Guess that makes me an old- timer, but I mostly lurk. Glad to see so many old-timers pop their heads in occasionally. I even saw Gayla when Unc said goodbye. I'll hang until the knot in my stomach disappears.


-- margie mason (mar3mike@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

Still breathin' last time I checked....

-- Billy Boy (Rakkasan101st@Aol.com), January 23, 2000.

I've been here since the Summer of 1998. I miss DiEtER!

-- jeanne (jeanne@hurry.now), January 23, 2000.

Proud Card Carrying Member Since 1998 (Exps 01/01/10)

-- kritter (kritter@adelphia.net), January 23, 2000.

Still puzzling over the evidence.



-- Pinkrock (aphotonboy@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

"...Been lurking since mid 1998 and very seldom post.... here... I'm well known and hated on De buncker however.... :-)

-- Netghost...."

Netghost, I respect and appreciate your valiant efforts over at the pig sty but how can you stand it? They are so totally gross. I used to enjoy seeing them squirm when presented with reality by intelligent people such as yourself but how many times can you watch that spineless cpr scream "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GONNA CALL MY LAWYER" (puleeeeeze, give me a break), and that cretin Mr. Polly flush the toilet while he kisses LadyLogic's butt without wanting to puke? SERIOUSLY! I'm flushing their url down the toilet right now and hope that you'll hang out over here a little more often. It's a much nicer neighborhood.

-- Charli (claypool@belatlantic.net), January 23, 2000.

Old timer? Well, just celebrated another birthday, so am a little 'touchy' about that term.... :D

I've been lurking here for over a year and posting for a little less than that. Wish I had a bean for each link I've forwarded on to someone else.....oh, wait.....I *do*! ; )

Current events and discussions about what is going on in the world (and how they affect us now ... and later) have always been fascinating to me. How can you NOT be interested?

Taz hit it on the head about going down the rabbit hole again.

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

Newtimer here-I was late to the party still wondering what "your computer must be compliant" meant in spring 99'.

I did not invent the internet either (but I know someone in the news that did ;), just now celebrating my second netversary.

Stocked up heavily on very basic items (aka beans/rice) for 3 other "nonbelievers". It wasn't easy hearing their opinion of that, but they have been surprisingly kind since the nonevent rollover, hardly mentioning it except to say, "when can we eat it?"

I said adios to the board December 14th, and almost quit checking after seeing the posts of the first 2 or 3 weeks post-rollover.

Hello Mara !, Billy-Boy !

Where is the real BigDog ?

Glad to see zog still and (forgive the lack of names) others.

Ok... lurer mode off. No, on. No, off. Uuhh ?

-- maid upname (noid@ihope.com), January 23, 2000.

Well I'm still checking in every now and then, but have returned to the working world and don't have the time to really keep up here.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), January 23, 2000.

Yan & Old Timers,

On this topic: 'Why' did the Old Timers leave? (Especially 'why' those that left recently?

Any insights?

-- JustLearning (NowU@Know2.com), January 23, 2000.

Helium waves to the members!

-- Helium (HeliumAvid@yahoo.com), January 23, 2000.

New email address. Same ol' Dog Gone.

-- Dog Gone (dawgawn@yahoo.com), January 23, 2000.

I guess the others left because that's the nature of a community, new 'faces' come in, and others 'pass away'.

Breaks my heart. It's so hard to carry on...

BTW, been around since May 1998. Nary a day goes by...

-- Arewyn (artemis31@msn.com), January 23, 2000.

I can't remember how long I've been here, but I know I didn't have sex with "that woman".


-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), January 23, 2000.

Busy planting a new church in upper Cape May County, N.J. Exciting things are happening there. A number of those with me I met thru my y2k meetings so that is blessing. Still lurk for the most part, still have grave concerns about Russia and China and their plans.

If anyone visits the Jersey shore this summer email me. We can have lunch or I can just share where to get good food.

God is in control....still. God bless you all. He loves you...He really really does! :-)

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), January 23, 2000.

I've been a daily visitor since Spring 1998, and this is still my startup page. I don't read as many posts now, but it's still a good place to come for non-mainstream news stories.

-- Pearlie Sweetcake (storestuff@home.now), January 23, 2000.

Bardou, January 1998.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), January 23, 2000.

I'm not an oldtimer. Have only been here for about 9 months. This forum has been very enlightening and has made me a more self- sufficent person--why would I leave something that has made me a better person.I will miss some of the oldtimers but I suppose that we will have newcomers that can equally add to this forum if we let them. Let's lighten up gang--we are in this togeather.Thanks to everyone here who has made me who I am today.

-- Curly~Q (past1@pbtcomm.net), January 23, 2000.

Whatever happened to Liberty at the Ready?

-- Normally (Oxsys@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

I've been lurking and occasionally posting since mid 1998, especially after setting up an email address that did not advertise my employer.

I was attracted by Yourdon's stature in my profession. I stayed for the entertainment value and the occasional good post.

Y2K has been very very good to me. The Y2K company I work for made enough money to keep going. The word in the corporate suites is that after the end of the month, if the monthly cycles are run without show stopping errors, American businesses will start pouring money into e-commerce, if they haven't already. I am learning Java (to update my Assembler and COBOL).

Gary North saw Y2K as a test of secular humanism. Well, secular humanism won. Time for the religiously inclined to consider an upgrade.

-- kermit (colourmegreen@hotmail.com), January 23, 2000.

From 4/1/1998 to 1/23/1900

-- ronbanks aka tc (phxbanks@webtv.net), January 23, 2000.

I am still here and enjoying this forum.

-- Marcy (marcia@madnet.net), January 23, 2000.

It's been a lot like "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" since I started lurking here in the Fall of '98.

Wouldn't have wanted to make the journey without TimeBomb. The folks here, for the most part, have really been super in helping each other travel down the road together this past year to the new millennium.

I'm just not quite ready to unpack my bags yet. Who knows what tomorrow might bring?

-- Lurkess (Lurkess@Lurking.Net), January 23, 2000.

Chuck ,

And hasn't SHE changed???? WHOO!! 

Havent we all? Or not... in essence.

Stopped writing some of those posts, because mostly, I was savagely flammed for them. Live and learn. Morphed into doing Y2K research, which was more more appreciated, and still got savagely flammed for that... by a different crowd. Go figure.


To tell the truth, Id still be willing to discuss/share peoples angel experiences, however *most* would call it OT. (Except for the probability that they were on rollover duty, and helped us all).


Diane, October 1998

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), January 23, 2000.

Almost 13 months now. What a ride! Too many familiar names missing. All missed, some more than others. Check that, some are not missed at all.

The fat lady is on stage preparing but I'm not sure if she is going to sing or yell "FIRE". The next 2 or 3 months will tell us.

-- Mr. Pinochle (pinochledd@aol.com), January 23, 2000.

I enjoy reading posts here more than anything else I could imagine. Amazing how thoughtful and witty, the majority of folks on this forum are.

-- Michael (michaelteever@buffalo.com), January 23, 2000.

Still here. Still mostly lurking.

-- Lois Knorr (knorr@attcanada.net), January 23, 2000.

Been lurking here since before Jan, 1998, but I don't remember exactly when I first began... I could read all the posts in short order back then... I remember Diane's first post too, and how she got "roasted" a bit.. (Hey, I like "angel" stories!) I will stop in for a look, and selective reading, every day as long as the forum is here. Some wonderful and witty people here... Hope it keeps going... and going... and going....

-- Suzanne (SuzanneL@webtv.net), January 23, 2000.

I have been lurking since october of '98. I have seen a lot of good info posted. As with anything you get for free, you have to sift out the chaff sometimes. I usually don't post much, but take every thing in and sort it out. Y2K has seen no problems for me, except for the power being a little unstable for a few days. And yes, we did have people sliding off the roads and knocking down power poles more than usual just after the new year, knocking out the power - I know because I am an EMT and monitor most of the calls on the fire channel to keep abreast of things.

-- Bird Lover (Bird@cache.net), January 23, 2000.

Lurked for a long time as I didn't know how to post anything. Still trying to get the hang of this darn computer. You'd think that with kids who are programmers that they'd find a LITTLE bit of time to teach their old mom a bit more about this whole computer thing wouldn't you?

Not really what you'd call a regular, but enjoy time spent here....well, most of the time anyway. Sometimes the troll/polly attacks do get a little vicious. Figure that's when it's time to either annoy the daylights out of them with flippant answers ("shoot from the lip" as my mother calls it) or just keep my fingers off the keyboard.

-- justme (justme@myhouse.com), January 23, 2000.

I hung my cyber-hat here at TB2000 in November, 1998. I've frequented a lot of BBS communities over the years, but haven't seen anything that compares to this one.

To Normally Oxsys, who asked, "Whatever happened to Liberty at the Ready?" He's one of the MIA whose perspective I miss the most, too...an early casualty of troll attacks.

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), January 23, 2000.

Lost phone service...alright...didn't lose it...the phone company has absolutely NO sense of humor...rofl. Eight days without phone service. Anyone care to guess what I missed the most?


-- beej (beej@ppbbs.com), January 23, 2000.

I don't think I'd qualify as an old-timer, but I've been lurking since, oh, last spring or so; posting since late last summer.

And I love the people and this place just too much to ever leave.

-- eve (123@4567.com), January 23, 2000.

I'm only a few days away from being 1 year old. :)

Not posting much the past week or so, with one arm in a cast, but try to lurk at least for a while every day.

Oil has always been my #2 Y2K concern, following power. It's still early in the game, IMHO. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), January 23, 2000.

Still too interested and addicted to quit...too much information here to stay away. Here since May/98

-- Laurane (familyties@rttinc.com), January 23, 2000.

You kill it and I'll cook it. This is still a very live isue.

-- && (&&@&&.&), January 24, 2000.

Guess I am a middle timer. I have been lurking and posting since last summer. Still check in here at least once a day. Even though some of the posters can make us all nuts, this is still the place for a lot of breaking news and laugh out loud clever remarks. There was one choice one today where someone posted in all caps (probably about oil) and someone suggested he buy a lower case vowel--wonderful!

It ain't over till its over on Y2K. Don't even start with me that the issues on petroleum and sewage spills are "accidents".

-- Nancy (wellsnl@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000.

Found the forum in June or July last summer (1999), and moved in as a refugee from Gary N's site. I haven't filled up a grocery cart since New Year's. Life is good; hope everyone here is well.

-- silver ion (ag3@interlog.com), January 24, 2000.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

I've been here for eight months, first posting June 11th. Before that I spent several months at Frugal Squirrel, but I left there on general principal when they decided to ban AOL. I don't even post to forums from there, but I like using their "disposable" addresses for e-mail.

I do think of moving on at times, when news runs real slow, but no place else feels quite right. Except for the occasional spat, sometimes I wonder if we're all just talking to ourselves.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), January 24, 2000.

I too am older than dirt, and still looking to mudwrestle....Gayla, where'd you go? Bardou, and Robert Cook, there, truth is out, I am old...sigh

-- consumer (shh@aol.com), January 24, 2000.

I'm still here lurking and posting every once in a while. Just need to concentrate on work for a while because I see tough times coming.

Take advantage now during the good times.


======================================================================= =

-- Mike Taylor (mtdesign3@aolx.com), January 24, 2000.

We're busy back in the work world, sorta still here, a couple minutes maybe here 'n there. Like Mike Taylor, we gotta make hay while the sun shines. We sure are basking in the brilliance of normal sunny life! Nothing like heavy contemplation of Mega-Disaster ta make ya appreciate every little convenient thing ;^) Still extraordinarily happy 'n thankful ...

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), January 24, 2000.

Yan, probably the oldest lurker still here... I never had the courage to post anything..can remember my heart beating fast when I did..ha ha...at least I got thicker skinned. I think I metaphorphisized along with the forum. At times the forum was all I had as I had a polly for a husband. Ironically he was the one who introduced me to Y2K as he was the Y2K remediation leader in his company. He declared early on that nothing bad was going to happen. He was confidently relieved at rollover that nothing bad did happen, just an e-mail problem that was resolved with a patch. We are still having a problem with Quikbooks 99, has to do with overdue payments, anyone heard of this elsewhere? The forum's been my refuge and my source for information. I'm grateful for that and still fuming over Greenspun's comment that this forum was a waste of time. A lot of good came out of this forum and hopefully it will continue on...maybe metamorphisizing into something else. Who knows?

Lurker 13

-- lurker 13 (lurker13@nowhere.here), January 24, 2000.

I check in from time to time.

-- Amy Leone (leoneamy@aol.com), January 24, 2000.

.....Been lurking since late spring and I think my first post came in late August or early September. Hope to stick around to see which direction the board takes. If it stays interesting, I'll be close by...

-- Patrick (pmchenry@gradall.com), January 24, 2000.

been here for about a year....still concerned about prospects for Nuke war as well as y2k related disruptions........

-- Annie (don'thaveone@home.com), January 24, 2000.

Still here. Still enjoying the interchanges. Still learning to think ;-)

-- Tricia the Canuck (jayles@telusplanet.net), January 24, 2000.

Gawd I love this Place!!!!!

-- hugs&kisses gang (karlacalif@aol.com), January 25, 2000.

I've always been here, except when I wasn't, and I'll be here until I go. So many trolls, so little time. Doing my little part to keep TB2000 a clean, well-lit place to lurk...

-- (TrollPatrol@sheesh.now), January 25, 2000.

Ok, this has gone far enough...

It's time for...

********** LURKERS ********** Please check in!

Tick... Tock... <:)))= ...

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), January 25, 2000.

(Puffing from running to catch the end of this train.) I'm here! I'm here! Good to see so many dear ones.

-- Faith Weaver (suzsolutions@yahoo.com), January 25, 2000.

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition is in.

Can't stay, can't leave, can't give in, can't hold on, MY OH MY!!

I'm late, I'm late, for a very important date, no time to say hello, good-bye, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late.....

Ohhhh NURSE!!!!

-- Al Zimer (mikeymac@uswest.net), January 25, 2000.

Yea, I got old timers too, so I'm not sure but...

Been here too long shortly, but I have never had a better place I'd rather not have been.

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition is in.

Can't stay, can't leave, can't give in, can't hold on, MY OH MY!!

I'm late, I'm late, for a very important date, no time to say hello, good-bye, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late.....

Ohhhh NURSE!!!!

-- Al Zimer (mikeymac@uswest.net), January 25, 2000.

Whoa, Michael, we need to make an appointment! LOL

-- alz izzys hi mer (coast) (allaha@earthlink.net), January 25, 2000.

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