OT Alternative Health: Do-It-Yourself Colloidal Silver Generator, "Hot Sauce Detox" threw off pneumonia in 3 days

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Do-It-Yourself Colloidal Silver Generator.

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One of my favorite megamedicines is colloidal silver. I've used it to cure everything from herpes to spider bite. But I hated spending $20 for two ounces at the health food store. So I was delighted to buy a small silver colloidal generator that ran off three 9 volt batteries for about $80. I used it for about two years. Then I built my own. So can you.

1. Go to the local bargain store and buy three 9 volt batteries (I got them for fifty cents apiece at Pic n Save).

2. Wire them together in the manner above (positive to negative to positive to negative to positive with two wires free). Alligator clips work good.

3. Get some pure silver. (Surely, you know some jewelry artist. Or buy a bit of silver wire at a jewelry store. You only need about four inches of silver wire.)

4. Attach two pieces of silver to the two free wires coming from the batteries.

5. Dip the silver into a glass of water. (Warm, distilled water works best.) Watch science in action as the electrical current destabilizes the water. Water molecules are torn apart. Free-ranging oxygen atoms bond into unstable triads (ozone!) and pull helpless microns of silver into ionized suspension. Tiny bubbles of pure hydrogen gas fizz up from one wire, as ionized silver streams off the other wire in ghostlike clouds. Beautiful, actually. Wait about five minutes or less. If you start getting brown stuff, that's silver dioxide and you've left it too long. (Brush the silver dioxide off the silver bits after you use them.)

6. Drink up. If it has a strong, yukky metallic taste, almost unbearable, you've got the right stuff. Make hundreds of dollars worth of silver collidal for mere pennies.



I have been asked for the recipe that I used last spring to get over pneumonia. This is not my recipe but one I received from Caroline T. with the mixture ;as it worked so well for me (I was well in three days after being sick for 3 months) I am happy to pass it along to you .

God Bless and Be Well, Nancy


1 tsp. mixed into 4oz. tomato or vegetable juice. One or two times a day for maintenance. Acute take every 2 hours for first 24 hours, then three times a day, or as needed . Do Not Exceed the tolerance of Your body! Note Take a Non-dairy Acidolpluious as described for thirty days.

1cup Curry Powder 1lb. Fresh Jalapeno /( or if preferred) Hobenaro Peppers chopped fine. 3cups 180 H.U. Cayenne Pepper. 3 head Garlic , fresh chopped fine. 1cup Red Hot Pepper seeds. 2cups Myrrh Gum Powder-Dissolved 2 gallons Brandy. 1/2 gallon Joey water. (Call Dr.Joey for water Ph# 208-266-1536) 1/4cup Celtic Salt. Stir and Marinate 14 days/turn daily. Yields 3 gallons


-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000


Heh, never had herpes, the text is from the site =:O

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000.

Most jewlery people do not use PURE silver but rather sterling silver. IT MUST PURE SILVER for CS. I had to buy mine from a coin dealer.

As a personal note, if it tastes "too strong", like a chemical, dilute it until the taste is acceptable.

We've been using purchased CS for years and are now saving over $25 per month making our own.

I spray my nose and throat each time I get around lots of people. Haven't had the flu for years.


PS Thanks Y2k or I never would have started making my own.

-- Todd Detzel (detzel@jps.net), January 12, 2000.

Colloidal Silver therapies are a near-total fraud. Go over to www.quackwatch.com and read the other side. Toxic heavy metals have nothing to offer your health.

-- Travis Porco (tcporco@mathepi.com), January 12, 2000.

I've seen other Quackwatch stuff and as far as I'm concerned they are a bunch of ... how shall I say it, people who dislike alternatives. Sort of like Pollys versus Doomers. CS works.


-- Todd Detzel (detzel@jps.net), January 12, 2000.

My family has used cs for almost 2 years. We very seldom have colds, or any other illnesses. My Dr. even checked me to make sure I wasn`t silver toxic. We, also make our own. It really works.

-- silver user (i`m not @ blue.com), January 12, 2000.

I'll second that warning about jewelry silver. Most if not all jewelry silver is sterling or a similar alloy. Pure silver wire *is* expensive, especially when bought from the CS sellers.

But, you can get pure silver 1 troy ounce "rounds" (generic coins) for 6-8 bucks each. Two of them will last you a lifetime. Probably *several* lifetimes.

-- Ron Schwarz (rs@clubvb.com.delete.this), January 13, 2000.

please check this site!!!


it has a very clear picture of a woman who turned GRAY from colloidal silver. a few weeks ago my mom who is in her 80's heard about people using colloidal silver and she said people used to do that when she was young and it turned them gray. she was emphatic that i should never use it and said firmly "i know what i am talking about".

this website at the bottom as this woman's story which is very very interesting but sad. i know this is true.

please, please, at least check it out.

-- boop (leafyspurge@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.

Some alternatives _ought_ to be disliked. "Test all things; hold fast to that which is true." The thing with colloidal silver is that the proposed mechanisms are weak or implausible, and that all the pro-silver evidence is uncontrolled anecdotes...very easy to fool yourself. About the only legitimate use I know of silver is the use of silver nitrate drops in the eyes of newborns. I do not believe that any double-blind placebo controlled study has ever found colloidal silver useful for preventing colds or cancer or anything else. Why not try to get a placebo effect from something other than a heavy metal?

-- Travis Porco (tcporco@mathepi.com), January 13, 2000.

Boop, your mother is an idiot! The grey skin woman used silver dust and the particles were too large, so it got stuck in her skin. This is what the docs use to scare you so you will not us CS and so you pay the doc for medicines with dangerous side effects. CS is also used in burn centers all over the world. Great stuff. Check out www.silversolutions.com

-- ... (...@...com), January 13, 2000.

no, my mom is very sharp. i resent your saying that. however, she has never seen the site or the picture of this woman. she told me about it before i ever found this site. she is telling about what she remembers from years ago. as to what type of silver they took back then, i have no idea.

-- boop (leafyspurge@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.

btw, i know about silvadene and silver nitrate. silvadene is still used with burns, used to be used for decubitus ulcers, but not so much now i don't think. silver nitrate i don't think is used much in baby's eyes anymore, i think it's mostly erythromycin now.

-- boop (leafyspurge@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.

in response to y2kobserver@nowhere.com, you didn't look at the picture. it isn't the hair that turns gray, it is the skin.

-- boop (leafyspurge@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.

Dear Boob, Yes by all means DO go read "Rosemary's Story". Please note that Rosemary claims that it was colloidal silver that gave her the skin discoloration. Please also note that if you read more about Rosemary you will find that she admits that she has no idea what so ever what was in the medicine that she took. No idea = colloidal silver. Kind of a stretch there don't you think?

Please note that the term "colloidal silver" over the last hundred years has been used to describe several wildly different things, including but not limited to: all sorts of various silver salts (these DO cause argyria by the way), ground up silver in water (no, I'm not making this up!), precipitated silver, and the more recent pure silver electrodeposited in distilled water.

Travis, Please note in "quackwatch" that they bandy about argyria and silver, but never directly connect it to the current definition of colloidal silver. Guilt by association is not very scientific. If you trust what you find in quackwatch, you are hitching your wagon to a falling star. Please note that the !@#$%^&*s at quackwatch also believe that the so called HIV virus causes AIDS. This should give you a really large clue that scientific evidence is NOT what powers quackwatch as there has never been a scientific paper in any legitimate peer reviewed medical journal that proves that HIV causes AIDS. Since AIDS is not a communicable diease, there never WILL be a paper of that sort.

P.S. I will be more than happy to give anybody a one ounce gold coin if they can come up with such a paper. Read INVENTING THE AIDS VIRUS by Peter H. Duesberg. Learn something.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), January 13, 2000.

oops, that should be Dear Boop, not Dear Boob.


"...", if Boop's Mom is 80, back then it was NOT pure silver electrodeposited into distilled water and it probably did give people argyria. You owe Boop and Boop's Mom an apology.

P.S. to Travis, apparently the placebo effect works on animals too? Sorry, you need to study this one some more. Also, NO, colloidal silver does NOT do some of the things that some people claim is does. It is however a great mild antibiotic, it is NOT however a powerful antibiotic. P.P.S. Silver is not considered a heavy metal.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), January 13, 2000.


"I do not believe that any double-blind placebo controlled study has ever found colloidal silver useful for preventing colds or cancer or anything else."

This statement is true. It is also arrant nonsense. In this country you'll never find any large placebo controlled double-blind study done on any alternative medicine.

There is little commercial profit from the sale of herbal remedies or collodial silver compared to the sale of patented drugs. The studies you demand are expensive and they require a large subject base. They can be funded only by large drug manufacturers who hope to regain the expense from the outlandish price the charge for their new drug.

Many herbals, for example, have passed another, far more stringent test -- they've been used safely, for centuries to obtain specific effects. A good example is the "hot" receipe posted above.....which consists of loading the body up with natural 'chillies' that raise the body temperature. This, in turn, kills off viruses that are temperature limited. You won't find a placebo controlled double-blind test that shows that cayenne (or any other 'chillie' will knock off most virus because these products are so inexpensive. But.....they have a 2500 year history (at least) of being effective, and of being safe.

[By the way, when we get flu we fight the fever. Yet, this raising of the body temperature is the mechanism our body uses to get rid of a virus. We should, instead, seek to control the temperature, keeping it at a safe, but elevated level, and let our bodies do the work they were designed to do!]

I love that 'placebo controlled' bit, Travis. You know, it really doesn't matter if I recover because I think I'm going to recover, or because of the effect of a medication. Recovery is recovery. If I get well from sugar water pills, I still get well.

Think about it.

-- (4@5.6), January 13, 2000.

I have used CS mixed with DMSO for sinus problems and it works great. However, I am not sure that it is a good idea to drink CS every day. CS was once widely used in the mainstream medical profession. In fact, there were articles writtem about it in the Lancet and other medical journals. Don't take that Quackwatch site too seriously. Their agenda is to attack just about anything that is not used by the mainstream medical profession.

-- Dave (dannco@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.

the article on Rosemary says they found 'silver specs' under her skin. to me, and i'm no doc, that indicates it could NOT have been electrolyzed silver she was drinking when she was younger. you'd simply never SEE silver particles that are that small.

-- lou (lanny@ix.netcom.com), January 13, 2000.

Hi Dave,

CS has NEVER been used by the mainstream medical profession. Silver *compounds* were used in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

Quackwatch is a site devoted to quackery -- their own.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (dtmiller@midiowa.net), January 13, 2000.

What is Celtic salt and where do you get it? Thanks.

-- Curious Yellow (curious@NM.com), January 13, 2000.

boop, you're right about the burn thing. Silver compounds are antibacterial and that's another legitimate use. In cases of severe burn, the risk of argyria is worth taking given how dangerous massive infection can be.
Until colloidal silver compounds are shown effective in a double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trial, there is no justification for taking them in view of their potential harmful effects.
In the meantime, what is the mechanism of their wondrous effects? "Stimulating the immune system" is too vague. More to follow...
Finally, is it really necessary to deal with the cause of AIDS? There are plenty of papers on this topic that anyone can find reference to on Medline. Overwhelming evidence points to HIV as the cause of AIDS, various disinformation memes notwithstanding.

-- Travis Porco (tcporco@transbay.net), January 13, 2000.

Oh, and Ken? No one is ever going to replicate Koch's postulates in humans with the HIV virus. It would be unethical, given the convergence of so many lines of evidence that HIV is indeed the cause of AIDS. These lines of evidence include animal models as well as epidemiology.

-- Travis Porco (tcporco@transbay.net), January 13, 2000.

Travis, You don't get it. "Until colloidal silver compounds are shown effective", that which is currently called colloidal silver is NOT a compound. It is an element in suspension.

As for Koch postulates, if you can't even get to the third postulate (inoculating a test subject with the purified germ) it doesn't matter. HIV/AIDS fails on the first postulate, ie. there are people that have all of the symtoms of AIDS that show neither the germ nor its antibodies.

As for calling honest inquiry into the nature of AIDS a "meme", I suggest you take that pop-psych blather into a dark corner, abandon it, and start doing some serious studies.

As for your, "There are plenty of papers on this topic that anyone can find reference to on Medline. Overwhelming evidence points to HIV as the cause of AIDS, various disinformation memes notwithstanding.", if there truely are "plenty of papers" name ONE and I will ship you a nice shiny gold coin.

Considering that that thousands of people are dying from misdiagnosis and maltreatment of the so called AIDS, I do not consider this discusion an idle parlor game.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), January 13, 2000.

It is correct that the preparations you're describing do not involve silver salts. However, the use of colloidal silver has never been shown to be effective. What evidence there is suggests it is toxic. Again, all we have are isolated and self-reported anecdotes presented without any control group. We have no idea if people are just fooling themselves, would have gotten better anyway, etc.
I suggested a couple of lines of reasoning pointing toward HIV as the cause of AIDS. (Yes, severe immunodeficiency does in rare cases arise from other causes. That does not change the fact that HIV is almost always a sufficient cause of AIDS.)
One line of reasoning is based on the fact that health care workers exposed to HIV through needlestick injuries have developed AIDS in the absence of other risk factors or identifiable agent. When individuals who appear to have no other risk factor whatsoever develop AIDS after a clearly identified exposure to blood which results in HIV seroconversion, that is certainly suggestive.
Plus, HIV/AIDS in the developed world occurs almost entirely in homosexuals who engage in unprotected sex and in intravenous drug users. Both practices can lead to exposure to infected blood. It is known that blood transfusion could spread HIV and that a few transfusion recipients (in the days before the HIV test) developed AIDS. Finally, early in the epidemic some hemophiliacs also developed AIDS as well. Painting with a broad brush--you have a syndrome whose epidemiology is similar in some ways to that of hepatitis B (blood borne plus certain high-risk sexual activities), you have a pathogen which can clearly be transmitted by the blood, and many cases of infection in individuals with _no other risk factors_, who develop AIDS after seroconversion with HIV.
Another line of evidence comes from antiretrovirals. Chemicals designed to inhibit the replication of HIV can stop the progression of AIDS. When the chemicals fail and HIV begins replicating again, then AIDS progression and CD4 depletion resume.
The whole "immune overload" thing just never led anywhere. Part of the reason this debate still exists is that no one is ever going to verify Koch's postulates with regard to AIDS/HIV: to do this, you would have to isolate and purify HIV from an AIDS patient, grow it outside the host in a pure form, inject it into a healthy person, and create the same syndrome. Even in the absence of such definitive proof, essentially all evidence incriminates HIV as a sufficient cause of an acquired immunodeficiency, from the epidemiology to the clinical side.

-- Travis Porco (tcporco@transbay.net), January 13, 2000.

here is an article obtained from medline: Barre-Sinoussi F. HIV as the cause of AIDS. Lancet, 1996 Jul 6, 348(9019):31-5. Pub type: JOURNAL ARTICLE; REVIEW; REVIEW LITERATURE. Type D 1 AB to see abstract. (UI: 96312220)

-- Travis Porco (tcporco@transbay.net), January 13, 2000.

Travis, Just got back in town and back on the net. Will call the local medical society and order a copy when they open on Monday to read that.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), January 21, 2000.

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