Hate to say so long, but...

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The show is essentially over. To be honest, I'll miss it. I've enjoyed my time here a lot, and I want to thank everyone who participated.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), January 12, 2000

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Best wishes Flint. Thank for you for your posts. =)

-- Dee (T1Colt556@aol.com), January 12, 2000.

Thanks for taking the time to offer your analysis. Your input was appreciated. Best of luck to you.....!

-- kevin (innxxs@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.

MANY good wishes for you and yours sir. Don't hesitate to pop back in and infuriate some of the denizens here at the drop of a hat. ;-)

i have enjoyed the crossing of swords.

Chuck Rienzo, A Night Driver

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), January 12, 2000.


Flint,

I am a newbie here (approx. 2 weeks) and I will miss your posts. Even though we fundamentally disagree on what the final outcome of Y2K will be (is?), I've always enjoyed your well-reasoned and mostly civil contributions. I fear the loss of your input to help me in balancing both sides of the issues under discussion.

I'm hoping you'll pop back in periodically to offer up your own version of the "reality check".

Jimmy

-- Jimmy Splinters (inthe@dark.com), January 12, 2000.


First Hoff, then Decker, now you. The 'other' iron triangle. Do you realize you're leaving us stuck with "i'm a polly" as the main refuter of "doom"? All the best, Flint, I've really appreciated you here as a balance for the forum, and I expect I'll get nailed just for saying it! Take Care........

on de rock

-- Walter (on de rock@northrock.bm), January 12, 2000.



Flint,

Take care. I'm sure you'll be able to 'spark' a good debate where ever you are...

-TECH32-

-- TECH32 (TECH32@NOMAIL.COM), January 12, 2000.


What a historical time. Your weighty, well intended presence has been appreciated. For all of the lunatics needing your attention, you were there for them like a big brother or father figure. Stay the course and most of all, save your preparations just in case this drought does a number on this country. I am impressed by the way you conducted yourself all the while. Accolades to you and may the light shine bright at the end of your tunnel.

sincerly...

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), January 12, 2000.


Flint,

I always enjoyed our debates and I'll truly miss you. Good luck to you and yours in all you do.

But before you leave, please, please, please look at snooze button's thread, "The Great Deception..." It's become the greatest wild party of a thread I've ever seen. In fact, it may lead you to decide to stick around awhile...

-- eve (123@4567.com), January 12, 2000.


You will be missed Flint. Any chance you can take Laura with you, or perhaps fix her up with Ken?

You'll be back, when it clicks.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), January 12, 2000.


See ya Flint. You're a wise man, Y2K be damned...

-s-

-- Scott Johnson (scojo@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.



Drop back in May and we can have a then-relevant discussion on Y2K impacts -- past, present and/or future, as well as discuss some of the "what happened" in the two years leading up to rollover.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), January 12, 2000.

You've distinguished yourself as one of the few pollies who presented his case in a reasonable manner. I'm sure we'll hear from you again if the remaining problem bite us seriously; until and unless that happens, good luck in your endeavors.

-- Steve Heller (stheller@koyote.com), January 12, 2000.

I'm truly sorry to see you leave, but I do understand. I have read many of your posts over the last year+ and have enjoyed many of them. Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

As a going away present I give you this link. Go there and save the link. You may find something there for you.

Inkspot

P.S. - Take the present, open it and by all means feel free to come back here anytime you feel the urge.

Sincerely,

snooze button

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.


Dear Flint, I have truly appreciated your insights. Thanks for taking the time to contribute a valuable angle. I couldn't handle most of the polly posts as they were so colored with anger and weirdness but I always read and took your opinions to heart. Good luck in your next advertures!

-- a mom (good@bye.com), January 12, 2000.

Best wishes and thank you for all your well thought contributions.

-- Bill P (porterwn@one.net), January 12, 2000.


Take it easy, Flint. It was fun for a while, wasn't it? You know what they say about card games with low stakes, "If you can afford to lose, you're not really playing poker." Y2K was like that for a while, especially in early 1999. Now that the risk appears to be gone, the excitement of speculation has passed away.

Of course, there is the risk of bubble.com, but with no hard timetable for deflation, it's hard to get real excited.

Why don't you keep this and BigDog's forum bookmarked just for the heck of it!

-- Puddintame (achillesg@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000.


I have truly enjoyed your contributions, and the occasional sparring. You have endured attacks from both sides of this debate, something few others have "earned".

You have my respect and my good wishes. Be well.

-- Steve (hartsman@ticon.net), January 12, 2000.


Will miss your balanced view. Curious, what will you be doing?

-- Lars (lars@indy.net), January 12, 2000.

Thanks for hanging in there, Flint. You helped to keep the reasonable doubt in my mind when I was tempted reach a premature verdict on Y2K, and for that I am truly grateful. All the best to you.

-- Thinman (thinman38@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000.

I know your type Flint, one week without sturm und drang of this forum and you'll be crawling back with your boney hand clench in a fist shouting "Y2K can be fixed".

-- Mabel Dodge (cynical@me.now), January 12, 2000.

Flint,

My hat is off to you as one of the greatest of all voices on this forum. I have enjoyed your writing tremendously, and will miss it in the future.

Of course, I agree with your assessment. I had planned to wait until the first few work days of February before grabbing my coat and heading for the door, but your decision is probably the wiser.

Thanks again, and so long.

Craig

-- Craig Kenneth Bryant (ckbryant@mindspring.com), January 12, 2000.


The levelheaded, moderating influences are evacuating. Whats that going to leave us with? You'll have to appoint a successor.

-- Guy Daley (guydaley@bwn.net), January 12, 2000.

So long, and best of luck to you, Flint. I've disagreed with you often, openly argued with you only a few times (because you were a more intimidating debate opponent than certain other Y2K-optimists whose egos got in the way of reason), but have always held you in regard. You will be missed.

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), January 12, 2000.

Flint

As usual you didn't state whether you are leaving or not, just that you hate to say so long :o)

I hope that the forum morphs into something a bit more relevant and smart folks such as yourself see this place as a "live wire" to look at events that may happen or do happen over the course of the next few years. There will always be room for a balanced view. Y2K is actually a small issue compared to the over all view of the world. There are signs that folks want to continue with advancing the forum into something greater than it's humble beginnings.

Maybe one day you will come back and answer the question that has been bothering me all this time.

Why was it so hard for most of the optimists to get together and have a decent Y2K board to refer to just as this forum had become. It would have helped your cause immensely to have a site that had documentation to support your views as apposed to the debunker site that displayed little or no intelligence. More often than not "pollies" were measured against this and it was to their detriment.

Would one of the answers be that you folk as a rule didn't hot link?

Just speculation.

Well if you don't come back best of luck to you and I hope your State will come through the next few months OK. One would think that their systems would still be behind.

One would also think that you will be uneffected because of your prudent aquisition of supplys to keep your comfort level sufficent.

Right? *VBG*

-- Brian (imager@home.com), January 12, 2000.


Yes Flint, where are you going? Give us the url of your new cyber environs. I wanna know where the Flints, the Bonnie Camp's, the Tom Benjamin's and the dozens of others go after y2k? (Milne I'll always know where to find.).

-- Sorry to see you go Flint (flkj@flkj.com), January 12, 2000.

Flint --- I'll believe it when I see it. "AND" if we don't see you for a couple of months, or never hear from you again, all of us forum posters and readers will be missing a lot of insight in the thought process. Like I said earier "I,ll believe it when I see it."

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), January 12, 2000.

Take care and be safe!

Taz

-- Taz (Tassi123@aol.com), January 12, 2000.


Hi Flint,

Take care (and get back to work!!). :)

Even though I disagreed with some of your analysis, I appreciated your info.

Stay prepared.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn (dtmiller@midiowa.net), January 12, 2000.


---well, Flint, enjoyed our spar, and some of your posts kept me from going to a 20 from a 15!hahaha! Holding at a 12 now...Good Luck, and Better Skill!

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.

I feel like we should all be holding hands in a circle singing "Kumbya" :0).

You made me think. You made me question. You gave me some perspective during some times of emotional duress. For that, my spouse thanks you.

Take care and know that even the best of friends often violently disagree. You have always been a gentleman. Godspeed on your continuing journey...

Roland

-- Roland (nottelling@nowhere.com), January 12, 2000.


Flint, there's not much I can add to what has already been said above...one thing that you helped me with was to get a different, broader perspective on the whole public Y2k debate...thank you for that. Your posts seemed well-thought out and reasonable.

See you around.

-- Dan the Power Man (dgman19938@aol.com), January 12, 2000.


Don't say good-bye Flint, but just make it au-revoir. I hope we will see your valid input again after Y2K is all over, and the next world wide issue makes itself known.

Best Wishes

Malcolm

-- Malcolm Taylor (taylorm@es.co.nz), January 12, 2000.


Goodbye Flint --

I have admired your calm, persistent and logical responses to people that were outright rude and obnoxious to you. I rarely ever saw you get upset or emotional. I still think you're some kind of weird Vulcan mutant or something, but that's another thread.

Live long and prosper...

-- ariZONEa (bye@flint.com), January 12, 2000.


Flint,

Be well.

Jerry

-- Jerry B (skeptic76@erols.com), January 12, 2000.


Fair winds and following seas Flint.

-- Michael Erskine (Osiris@urbanna.net), January 12, 2000.

Oh hell, another good one bites the dust ;-(

Flint, you da man.

(hows that for short and sweet?)

PS, Thanks for making me use my noggin from time to time. I think I'll go cry in my beer now.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.


sniff...sniff...sniffle,

Oh damn! I didn't mean to get emotional. Bye Flint, I hardly knew ya! I was a newcomer here but you were right and most others were wrong. Hope you drop back for a visit from time to time. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

-- JoseMiami (caris@prodigy.net), January 12, 2000.


Flint, something's wrong here. No "fond farewell" from your buddy, Paul Milne. I'll check back later...

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), January 12, 2000.

Flint:

Although I'm not sure if ANYONE completely had Y2K figured, I do believe that you called it the closest: Relatively minor problems that would cause IT types some huffing and puffing, but that the public at large would barely be aware of. As we enter mid-January, my belief that your Y2K predictions have turned out to be correct is strengthened on a daily basis.

I'm sorry that you and so many other regulars are leaving ... I honestly think it would be better to at least wait until closer to the end of January, just to leave little room for doubt as to how it turned out. But, if you must, you must.

Sincerely,

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), January 12, 2000.

* * * 20000112 Wednesday

Perhaps as the Y2k camel begins to poke a nose, or more, under the iron "curtain" to reality, you'll return to contribute provocative alternate viewpoints.

In ant event ... Farewell, adieu, may Y-deux-K be "fair" to you and yours!

Regards, Bob Mangus

* * *

-- Robert Mangus (rmangus1@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.


* * * 20000112 Wednesday Arrggghhhh!! .... ...

In _any_ event ... Farewell, adieu, may Y-deux-K be "fair" to you and yours!

Regards, Bob Mangus

* * *

-- Robert Mangus (rmangus1@yahoo.com), January 12, 2000.


Bye Flint. Before you go can you give a hint what your new handle will be?

It's been fun.

Mike


-- Mike Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), January 12, 2000.


Thank you, Flint

-- walt (walt@lcs.k12.ne.us), January 12, 2000.

Flintser,

Happy trails, dude. If you & the Mrs make it out to the left coast, I owe you {or y'all} a nature walk.

I still think this is a case of premature evacuation, however.

-- flora (***@__._), January 12, 2000.


For Flint:

"I make no hobgoblin of consistency. If I am true to myself from moment to moment, I do not mind all the inconsistencies that may be flung in my face." -------- Mahatma Gandhi

Fare Thee Well,

-- Bingo1 (howe9@shentel.net), January 12, 2000.


Flint,

I saw you take a horrific pounding....and you withstood it with amazing calm, logic, and good grace. I always thought it was wise to prepare which I thought your posts often discouraged. No hard feelings. God be with you and yours.

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), January 12, 2000.


Flint:

Have fun in Alabama, where the salmon have whiskers.

Best wishes,,,

Z

-- Z1X4Y7 (Z1X4Y7@aol.com), January 12, 2000.


Flint,

Take care and enjoy life for awhile.

I doubt that I will ever again be able to go through Huntsville without thinking about your old grizzled hide and your harem.

Best of luck on the smoking. Hangeth in there.

You *do* know that they are going to be talking about you just as soon as you leave don't you?

All the best to you in the future.

S.O.B.

-- sweetolebob (buffgun@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000.


Best wishes, Flint

-- justme (justme@myhouse.com), January 12, 2000.

Flint,

Sorry to see you go. I pretty much agree with nearly everyone above, you were always a voice of reason.

Ah well, if you're out of here I guess I'll follow, there's not much left to talk about really, everything looks like it'll be manageable.

All the best from your Aussie mate...

And it's also goodbye from...

RonD

-- Ron Davis (rdavis@ozemail.com.au), January 12, 2000.


Flint,

The very best to you...

-- BiGG (superste@antigopro.net), January 12, 2000.


Flint, pop back over in a few months.........

farewell!!!!!

-- ;-) (karlacalif@aol.com), January 12, 2000.


By Flint. See ya Monday.

>"<

-- Squirrel Hunter (nuts@upina.tree), January 12, 2000.


See ya Flintstone...

.....Maybe when I do, you'll have learned at least something about the money issue and our fraudulent monetary system.

:oP

-- Patrick (pmchenry@gradall.com), January 12, 2000.


Well, Flint,

sorry to see you go. As it turns out, you hit it pretty close. For that I am most grateful. I wish you would stay around, but I also know that this forum can eat up a lot of time if you try to read even half of the postings.

I wish you the best. Stop back in and give us an opinion now and then.

regards,

gene

-- gene (ekbaker@essex1.com), January 12, 2000.


You always gave reasoned answers. Thanks for your posts.

-- BeerMan (frbeerman@juno.com), January 12, 2000.

Y2K is just starting Flint. Funny to see you go just now. You wouldn't be chickening out on us by any chance would ya?

-- George (jvilches@sminter.com.ar), January 12, 2000.

I have learned a lot from this journey. Much of it is about myself and some of that has come from you. For that, thank you.

-- Mike Lang (webflier@erols.com), January 12, 2000.

Late again, darn it!

Don't trash that bookmark, Flint. I still need a helping hand.

-- Tommy Rogers (Been there@Just a Thought.com), January 12, 2000.


Flint, I've admired and enjoyed your numerous contributions of reasonable analysis since first encountering them. Thank you for your extensive participation.

-- No Spam Please (nos_pam_please@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000.

Group hug, everyone! Now, all exit together, like the end of Mary Tyler Moore...;)

-- Thinman (thinman38@hotmail.com), January 12, 2000.

Flint, Dude, Buddy . . . don't desert us ("Get your filthy hands off my dessert", Roger Waters, 1981). How will we ever live our lives without the great Flint?

-- Think It (Through@Pollies.Duh), January 12, 2000.

I hereby propose that the remaining posters adopt a collective handle of "Flint's Ghost" and take turns posting our best Flint impersonation on all new threads. Otherwise, however will we all stay sane now?

Here's my start: "I didn't say I was leaving. I said I hate to say goodbye. Most posters here will assume the most extreme, negative meaning possible from this. You always force everything you read to fit into your predetermined and fatalistic world view."

-- (TrollPatrol@sheesh.now), January 12, 2000.


Ooops...forgot to sign that last one...

-- (Flint's Ghost@TB2000.forever), January 12, 2000.

I raise my glass to a job well done, and send very respectful nod your way. Thank you, Flint. Truly.

May you always be "in heaven raising hell." And do be well.

-- (resolved@this.point), January 13, 2000.


Happy trails, Flint.

As mentioned to Ken Decker... "why do I suspect you'll still lurk?"

;-D

Peace and Blessings.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), January 13, 2000.


Flint,

Thank you for your contributions to the forum. You were part of what made it enjoyable.

May God bless and keep you and yours.

Dian

-- Dian (bdp@accessunited.com), January 13, 2000.


Flint - the longwinded, pistol-packin, food & cash hording polly - has clearly been one of the most useful contributors to the forum. I never really liked him, but it's good that he's been here.

Flint, congratulations for accurately calling the pre-'00 bank-run scenario,...it was brave of you to predict that so few people would follow through with the intentions they indicated in the FDIC? poll of mid '99.

-- number six (iam_not_a_number@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.


Mr. Flint;

Goodbye and good luck from the beach. Your posts were always entertaining and informative, if not always what I agreed with, and at least made me think. Thank you for that.

Come back after the fat lady 'has' sung, in a year or two, and we'll discuss how we made it through the melee.

-- Beached Whale (beached_whale@hotmail.com), January 13, 2000.


So long, Flint. It won't be the same around here without you. You were the best of the 'Doomer-in-Polly-ester-clothes' species.

They're droppin' like flies around here now. Now, if we could just get rid of some of these yip-yappin' hairless lap-dogs that followed you in here...

Farewell, Flint, and

Godspeed,

-- Pinkrock (aphotonboy@aol.com), January 13, 2000.


The last voice of reason has left. Thank you Flint. Good luck.

-- (Bye@Flint.GoodLuck), January 13, 2000.

Flint

Good Luck to you and yours. I thank you for the thoughtful input.

As always, keep your...

-- eyes_open (best@wishes.2all), January 13, 2000.


I agree, Flint, although I still lurk twice/week or so out of curiosity. I'm amused/amazed at the responses to some threads. Some say, "What are you still doing here if you think Y2k is over?" Others say, "They're cowards and left because they saw the rise in problems." This never was a forum for a Y2k optimist,Flint. You knew it, and so did I.

Brian: You asked why the Y2k optimists didn't create a forum outside of debunkers. Several actually DID exist, populated for the most by folks working on Y2k and non-tech types that wanted to get first-hand information. They were public in nature, however, much like this one and either died out from lack of interest or continue with folks oriented toward topics outside of Y2k.

As you mentioned previously, Brian, I suspect that the TB2000 forum will continue with folks oriented toward topics outside of Y2k. I can understand that. Y'all have become familiar with each other and feel comfortable discussing ANYTHING.

-- Anita (notgiving@anymore.com), January 13, 2000.


'Bye, Flint - and all the best to you. You added to the forum, and I'll miss your input.

-- Tricia the Canuck (jayles@telusplanet.net), January 14, 2000.

I take a day off for my Birthday and come back to find this Thread. Oh, well...... May you live long and prosper. V

-- Mr. Pinochle (pinochledd@aol.com), January 14, 2000.

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