NOW ABOUT THAT BIBLE : LUSENET : TimeBomb 2000 (Y2000) : One Thread

This will no doubt rattle a few christians out there who were posting in the Revelations 18 thread. So I started a new thread discussion because the other one is too far down the page.

Rev 18 is about the latter-days, it is quite plain to see that this is so because the scritures are so plain and simple. (these are the latter-days and y2k may be part of that event in chap 18 because that looks like everything comes to a standstill, and already JIT system is slowing up in different areas.) Also I would like to mention the truth that the bible is not a closed cannon of scripture. It is a partial history of God's dealings with Joseph's tribe of Israel.

-- Brent Nichols (, January 07, 2000


Your goofy theories about Revelation 18 applying to today have already been disproven.......

I'll give you credit for sticking by your guns I suppose....speaking of guns, you show your lack of Biblical scholarship when you use the phrase "Cannon of scripture"......

Is cannon supposed to be like a really big gun or something? Or perhaps you were aluding to the canon of scripture?

-- Craig (, January 07, 2000.

By the way. There is not one mention of Y2K in either the New or Old Testament. Nor the Koran.

-- Marc Stulth (, January 07, 2000.

Yeah, but I still think the author of the original post was confusing Y2K with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. That one seems to make the most sense if you want to tie modern day events to prophetical scripture in Rev. 18.

Revelations 18

-- Grant Naylor (, January 07, 2000.

Well, Craig, you misspell sometimes,too.

-- amnesia (, January 07, 2000.

Hey amnesia, what are you al(l)uding to?

-- Chris Karcher (, January 07, 2000.


Please don't post messages when you're drunk.

Thank You.

-- (This Must Be@Joke.coom), January 07, 2000.

Cannon in this sense means all 66 books of the bible, there are more than 66 books. And the bible isnt complete. Here are the references to show there are lost scriptures out there. Some of these books are in the apocrypha that are already in some churches.

Ex 24.7, Num 21:14, Josh 10:13, 2 Sam 1:18, 1 Sam 10:25, 1 Kgs 11:41, 1 Chr 29:29, 2 chr 9:29, 12:15, 13:22, 20:34, 33:19

Some of you also have problems with understanding Rev 19:19 about the warning of adding things to the book of 'THIS' prophecy. John never said the warning was about the entire bible.

-- Brent Nichols (, January 07, 2000.

Hey Brent - I'm not finished with my chapter. Had to rewrite it after discovering the wonders of viagra. Talk about a revelation! Geez...if I hear "oh God" from Liddy any more I think I'm gonna invest in some ear plugs.

-- Bob Dole (, January 07, 2000.

Brent, are 'they' spraying in your area?

-- Look (at@the.facts), January 07, 2000.

Dear Brent,

I am beginning to suspect that you are being serious, and that is rather scary.

Many of the early Christians believed that Christ would come back during their lifetime. I'm sure that if you went back in time and told them that we still be waiting almost 2'000 years later, many of them would not have believed you.

I don't want to diss. the Christian faith (even though I'm a non- believer); armaggedon is an essential doctrine, but jumped up petty little human beings who think they can predict when this happen (when the Bible explicitly tells them that such a task is impossible) are really rather annoying.

Every social upheaval has brought with it fresh beliefs that we are living in the "Last Days". The Protestant Reformers sincerely believed that Christ would return once they had completed their work, and identified the Roman Catholic Church with Babylon, and the Pope with anti-Christ. In England, the restoration of Charles II brought with a crisis of faith amongst Protestants and Non-Conformists. They believed that this event would set back the Reformation (and therefore Christ's return) indefinitely.

I am sure people believed they were living in the Last Days during the Napoleonic Wars, and probably Hitler too. People even think Bill Gates is the anti-Christ. He isn't. He's just a monopolistic arsehole. Anyhow, don't fall into the arrogant trap of believing that somehow our generation is the most important that has ever lived. Can't you see a thousand years into the future, or does your history of the human race stop in 2050?

It's funny how you think the Book of Revelation refers to current technology, as if COBOL based applications and embedded chips are somehow special in some way. Technology knows no limits; look how far things have advanced in the last 20 years alone. I wouldn't dare predict what will be current technology in 20 years time.

All the Book of Revelation says is that at some point in the future Christ will return to judge the living and the dead, and create a new heaven and a new earth, defeat anti-Christ and triumph over Satan. Not bad for a day's work. You can make what you will of that prophecy, but just accept that it isn't something you can anticipate. Of course there will be "signs", but they will catastrophes on a scale that you cannot dream of...

If whole continents start dying of famine, and countries go to war on an unpredecented (nuclear) scale, and I end being forced to fight to the death with my neighbours over a dead spider etc. THEN I might think that we could be living in the Last Days.

Go and read Revelation again... believe you me, that imagery makes anything Y2K related look like a walk in the park.

I've probably made an error in taking you seriously. I would be very grateful if you could show me something in Revelation that refers to the invention of Cheez Wizz (I'm sure you could). Then I would not feeling guilty about treating you like a fruitloop.

-- -- (, January 07, 2000.


I just can't believe you've fallen for Satan's disinformation campaign. Are you Catholic?

-- Hokie (, January 07, 2000.

He's got to be. Only someone that stupid would mention the apocrypha.

-- trafficjam (road@construction.ahead), January 07, 2000.

I'm not an Apocrypha fan however I do get amused by some of the 'King James only' crowd who seem to enjoy dissing the Apocrypha.....

Especially since the first printing of the King James Bible actually contained books of the Apocrypha.......

And Brent, you've really proven my point with your last statement "It is a partial history of God's dealings with Joseph's tribe of Israel"...........EXACTLY my man......That is what the Book of Revelation was dealing with.......the final destruction of Biblical Israel as earlier prophesied in many of the Old Testament books.

For Judaism to exist as the law of God required, it was ABSOLUTELY necessary for the temple in Jerusalem to exist. Without the temple, the law could not properly be carried out. Jesus prophecied that the fulfillment of the ending of the old covenenant would be carried out in the generation in which he was living in and the new covenant would replace it.

History shows that in the year 70AD, Israel and the temple were completely destroyed....not one stone left upon another! This was complete and sheer destruction for those that lived under the law as the law could never again be kept properly without the temple. You can compare the destruction that was prophecied figuratively and see the actual fulfillment over 1900 years ago. Of course, every age in history has events that resemble somewhat the destruction written about in Revelation but to say they are in any way related to a clear prophetic book that has already had it's fullfillment is ludicrous!

-- Craig (, January 07, 2000.

See my response in the original thread.

-- BeerMan (, January 07, 2000.

"Every social upheaval has brought with it fresh beliefs that we are living in the "Last Days"."

(2 Pet 3:3 KJV) "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,"

(Heb 1:2 KJV) "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"

The "last days" are from Jesus till Jesus. The Alpha and the Omega.

Not saying Y2K is it just that we have been living in the last/final days of Babylon the Great and after that we will have peace.

(Rom 15:33 KJV) "Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen."

-- Mark Hillyard (, January 07, 2000.


Blessed are those who are persecuted for My Name's sake.

Remember that one? =)

-- cin (, January 07, 2000.

People don't persecute Christians that are intelligent; they only persecute the ones that are blatantly stupid.

-- -- (, January 07, 2000.

The devil has control over sinners, and they blindly follow their lusts. Demons think humans are so stupid because they don't question natural thoughts which conflict with their conscience. They *go with the flow*. There is a broad road to Hell, and many who post here shall enter into utter damnation.

-- dinosaur (, January 07, 2000.

I'm in hell already knowing that there are people who are really this self rightous!

-- DAVID (, January 07, 2000.


I just can't believe you've fallen for Satan's disinformation campaign. Are you Catholic?

" -- Hokie (, January 07, 2000.

He's got to be. Only someone that stupid would mention the apocrypha.

-- trafficjam (road@construction.ahead), January 07, 2000. "

Hokie, very disappointed. trafficjam, don't know your posts or handle so jump in a lake.


-- Someone (, January 08, 2000.

I think America is that commercial Babylon mentioned in the 18th chapter of Revelation. The destruction within one hour will be from simultaneous nuclear missiles striking the states. America will fall very hard very fast.

-- dinosaur (, January 09, 2000.

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