ROTFLMAO! The Polly 'Master Programmer' has discovered an HTML trick!

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LOL! Some imbecilic polly PC weenie just posted a thread with the well know HTML rededirection that disables the REPLY button, thinking they have discovered the frickin holy grail or something.

Hey, I thought there were laws on cyberterrorism! Next thing you know this young fellow will be back with a vial of anthrax!

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

Here's the text from the thread so you can respond with your comments and laughter:

First, a bit of business. Dr. Greenspun, undoubtedly, you will read this. Had this matter not degenerated to the point of some rather serious charges being made against the group I represent in this post, I would never have gone to these lengths to make a point. This post puts you in the unfortunate position of either deleting this post yourself and opening yourself to charges of being an editor-publisher, instead of a provider, or letting it stand and possibly getting so much grief from the nitwits who operate this forum that you will wish to close it down. Moreover, it is always a nuisance to plug a security hole in a piece of software.

If you simply adapt the filter you are already using on the thread titles to the threads themselves, allowing only href and img src to pass through, it will pretty effectively close this hole. I am sorry, but I am afraid I can't help you on the rest of the decision.

I certainly hope your sense of duty does not include performing tasks at the request of Diane Squires, who isn't worth the shine on your shoes.

But now, I have some business to attend to.

If you, oh reader, will but attempt to submit an answer to this post, you will find that you cannot. I have disabled the form containing this post, and redirected the base URL. Try it - you will only prove that I am telling the truth. While you cannot go there, please accept my assurances that all the controls in the various administration pages that load this post will be disabled in the same way. The simple fact that this post remains, pending action by Dr. Greenspun, should be more that enough proof of that statement.

I, or any of the other polly programmers, could have done this at any time. We did not. We could have hyperpinged greenspun.com, invited hacker friends to have at it, attacked with tools such as Satan, stolen your passwords to that truly strange administration forum with well known attacks or even brought greenspun.com down with Internet Explorer - simply by turning on offline browsing while running a fast machine on a T1 line. The multithreaded nature of MS Internet Explorer would have brought this forum down exactly as your experiment with site rippers did. Incidentally, that would not have worked very well if your site rippers had not brought the forum down - MS operating systems do not distingush between capitalization in file names, and the database behind this forum does. You would have overwritten and destroyed many threads in your private database.

Yet, we were accused many times of trying to destroy this forum, of trying to bring down the forum, of attacking with various tools and other nefarious deeds. NONE of these claims were true. All were speculation and outright lies. If we had wanted to destroy this place, we could have harassed you till Greenspun would have pulled the forum to get some peace, as he almost did after YOU pestered the poor man almost to death.

Perhaps you do not understand the seriousness of such charges. In our profession, almost the worst thing you can be accused of is tampering with someone else's equipment. Aside from the criminal aspect, it simply isn't done.

This post, by the way, does not tamper with anything, it just takes advantage of a loophole in the forum software.

So, in effect, aside from your acknowledged inane rantings, you have accused us of both criminal and ethical misdeeds IN OUR PROFESSIONAL LIVES.

I do not feel that such accusations should be allowed to go either unanswered or unpunished. The forum administrators have made it plain they will not tolerate any attempt on the part of a polly to defend either himself or his group. This is an offense to my sense of balance, as well as my sense of justice.

They have sown the wind, and now they reap the whirlwind.

One more minor thing, before I settle in to my work, an explanation of just who I intend to finish reading this post. If you were merely a lurker, just stop here - the rest of this is not for you. If you were an occasional poster, not a ranting maniac, you won't find yourself here. If you were merely fearful because you didn't understand the technical issues, you are not the intended audience. If you prepped because you wanted to protect your family, you were simply misguided in the level of the actual Y2K exposure of the infrastructure of the United States. You can't be blamed for that - you were lied to delibrately and methodically. In fact, desiring to rescue your family from a perceived threat can only be called a noble desire. I hope you choose your cause more carefully next time, and are more skeptical about the motives of the ones telling you there is a major, life-threatening problem.

For the long time forum moderators, for the sellers of goods, for the liars, con artists, raving maniacs and limelight lovers who wanted, AND STILL WANT, another extension of their fifteen minutes of fame, THIS BUD'S FOR YOU!

The explanation is needed, as the latter groups try every dirty debating trick and underhanded political tactic imaginable to make it sound as if pollies were somehow enraged by the thought of someone prepping for disaster. Nothing could be further from the truth, we only desired a simple, dispassionate discussion of the actual limits of the potential for Y2K problems. That claim of pollies being enraged is one of many lies and personalities I shall commence to discuss.

I begin with the forum itself. It must have been obvious to anyone not a complete ass, that censoring the pollies would only cause trolling and worse to befall this place. Censorship is not only antithetical to any search for truth, it goes against the very core philosophy of the Internet. Moreover, trolling was encouraged, if it was directed against a polly. This probably resulted in the most lopsided discussion since the time of Cotton Mather.

Your administrators should be proud. This forum will undoubtedly replace the Soviet experience with Lamorkian biology as the textbook case of censorship resulting in ridiculous conclusions. Yes, you will be pointed to as the bad example, the worst result of the unrestrained early days of the Internet, when science gave every man his own printing press. I feel sorry for Dr. Greenspun. Forever more, greenspun.com will be associated with THAT PLACE.

So now, let us move on to personalities.

First, the administrators:

DIANE OF THE SIGHS: Madam, I cannot believe what a dominating bitch you are. Do you work as a dominatrix on the side? Perhaps to pick up a little extra prep money? And don't delete TOO much over at yahoo!

Chuck the Night Driver: Where DID you go, old boy, that you came back so damn full of piss and vinegar, a couple months ago? Milita training camp? Visit with Ed? Something fired your ass up big time. And you seem to have decided to go on the warpath, and sucked everyone else in with you. WHY? I can understand deleting trolls, but why delete reasoned arguements? Your actions speak for themselves. You SUCK.

Stealth aka MT : From what I understand, you have repented the error of your ways. Good. Knowing what you did, to people who never did you any harm, but wished only to educate you, is enough punishment.

Ed - you have your own place down below old boy, never fear. But I do wonder if you bothered to explain the legal ramifications to Diane when you handed the admin password over to her. If you did not, you can add negligance to your other crimes.

Next, the Sellers:

Minnesota Smith: You strike me as totally untrustworthy. I would not buy a book of matches from you, much less something I would put in my mouth. You were the worst of all the sellers, an arrogant son of a goddamn bitch, and you had some strong competition.

Beano Caton: who I suspect is also Homer Beanfang. Beanfang is a rude name for fart, an excellent description of your performance whenever you open your mouth. I have spoken to people who told me you are WORSE in person than you are on the Internet. One woman says that talking to you was the most frightening experience she ever had in her life. I hope you choke on your ill gotten gains. May you eat only the garbage you sell, for the rest of your miserable life.

Stan Faryna: Even the other sellers can't get along with you. Makes you stand out in a rotten crowd, as a rotten apple worthy of honorable mention as the smelliest of the smelly.

And, the FOOLS:

In the tarot, the fool represents a seeker for knowledge. Unfortunatly, on TimeBomb 2000, a fool wishes only to supress knowledge. Lets have at it, shall we?

Paul Milne: What the hell can I say about this psychotic mother? He says it all himself, and very well indeed. Paul, I hope you die in an asylum, dreaming of drinking dog piss out of a rusty hubcap, just as you claimed we would die, actually drinking dog piss out of a rusty hubcap.

And you so-called moderators did not delete THAT! Kiss my rusty ass!

ANDY: Child, the fundamentals of Gold changed forever when it was dropped as a backing for money. Your posts have shown a paranoia about faith in the value of a dollar. Get some help old boy, your psychosis is showing.

Hawk aka a@a.a: Anyone who would repost Milne's crap isn't worth spit. You are cursed to look for the dark side of every silver lining for the rest of your life. Nothing I could say will ever make it worse than that. I'd like to kick your ass, and at the same time I feel sorry for you.

Lisa: Why anyone would want to become a carbon copy of Diane is beyond me. But you managed it. Give my regards to the boys in the dominatrix sessions, the ones with the barbeque sauce and the whipped cream!

INVAR: I am really tempted to repost that Piece of SHIT you wrote about Jimmy Bagga Doughnuts, in this undeletable format. That was the sickest thing I ever read. Why don't you staple it to your resume? The kind of jobs YOU want, it probably will go as a good reference.

King of Spain: You seem to have somewhat come to your senses of late, old son. Maybe there is hope for you yet. If you work on it, maybe you won't be a revolving asshole any more, the kind where all you can see is asshole, no matter what angle you turn them to.

Will Continue: If cutting hair required skill in logic, you would never work again. Another Diane clone. You three should set up shop together. You could even offer SPECIAL clips and trims.

Old Git: Well, honey, while you sit there in your bloomers and laugh at these people, just who the hell do you think you are fooling. I have known a bunch like you, who thought life was just a way for them to get attention. Frankly, you disgust me, in all your Internet personas.

Plenty more capering fools and gibbering idiots on this forum, but most of the rest were at least willing to act like pollies were human beings. The above acted like we were something to scrape off your foot at the nearest street grating.

And, the liars:

The endless postings from someone whose husband or brother KNEW the local power company was toast. The claims of unreachable chips. The claims of chips at the bottom of oil wells. The claims of chips in pipelines. LIES. EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM.

If you still can't accept those as lies, then you are pretty damn stupid. And I shan't name names, as it would be pointless. The names were all Net handles, a dead giveaway to any skeptic as to who was lying and who was telling the truth. Be skeptical about any claim made on the Net, especially by someone who won't tell their real name.

And now, the REAL prize hogs of Y2K, the boys and girls who wanted their FIFTEEN MINUTES OF FAME!

Ed Yourdon: I had access to your Cutter work through sources I won't mention here. And you changed your stance on Y2K in those writings, but not in the second edition of TimeBomb. WHY NOT? You, sir, will have to answer for that with your career and, eventually, to your God. And the pollies are not enraged at the thought of someone prepping, as you claimed in innumerable places, most notably on the y2ksafeminnesota.com site, they are enraged at the thought of someone LYING to the preppers for the chance to remain in the spotlight for a few more days.

Cory Hamasaki: You are a clown. A jester. A fool. You are the epitome of the arrogant son of a bitch IT professional, who couldn't program shit, but can talk fast enough to get work. I saw through you in less than a minute of reading your first WRP. I don't doubt that you have contracts that will have Y2K problems, after all, they hired you to fix them. And, as I said, you couldn't program HELLO WORLD.

INFOMAGIC aka Ivan Mingham: At least you are consistent. It will come, and it will be bad. You need professional help. If you aren't a manic/depressive paranoid, you have fooled everyone I have shown your writings.

Steve Heller: You, sir, are arrogant as hell. You spent your entire professional life in one narrow niche, assembler/C/C++, and think that gives you perfect knowledge of the entire computing continum. That makes you a damn fool, as well as arrogant.

JIM LORD: Lord takes the cake. Hellfire, he takes the entire party! He takes a pension from the same Navy he abuses. He lies like a dog. I swear, if you ground up Jim Lord and filtered him, the residue would be nothing but concentrate of liar.

Paula Gordon: What the hell can anyone say about Paula Gordon. She stole a little here, a little there, and wrote a stupid white paper. She will never work in Washington again. She will stay there though, pulling her little briefcase on wheels around until the day she dies. Another Y2K clown.

E. Lane Core and Robert Mangus: I don't think you are the same person, you just sound like twins. You are both a couple of damn fools. Live with it because there isn't anything you can do about it.

D. Olsen: I'd like to skin you alive for that baby business, because I bet you infected the mother and grandparents with the Y2K meme. I hope child welfare comes down on you BAD.

Enough of that. If I think about any more of the wanna be stars, I'll puke right here on the keyboard. I've upset my stomach already. And one more catagory to go!

THE COMPLETE MORON CONSPIRACY SQUAD:

Chemtrails. Contrails. Aliens. Secret lizard men from Mars. White vans. Blue signs.

I can't go on. You poor bastards. I really pity the ignorant sons of bitches that posted that stuff. You know who you are. You are so far past the bend, you have forgotten the turn.

And finally, a little something to ponder for the boyos who are now wishing for some problems in 3 months, six months from suddenly discovered corruption in data.

Remember Dilbert? Remember his boss? The guy who wants all the reports?

Every big company, and plenty of small ones, have that guy. And he demands daily reports, weekly reports, biweekly reports and monthly reports. Why not? Those lazy programmers and operators don't have anything else to do.

So he gets his reports, and he compares EVERY GODDAMN NUMBER WITH THE NUMBER FROM THE WEEK BEFORE! I KNOW THIS GUY. And he goes NUTZ over roundoff errors, never mind bad input.

Database corruption that goes undiscovered for 6 months? BULL FUCKING SHIT! That bastard has been griping about his numbers since Tuesday. Believe it!

Don't look for me around here again. I'm gone, and you better believe it. But this was my parting shot, for the people who abused the HELL out of someone who just wanted to help them.

-- THE MASTER PROGRAMMER (Youd.like.that@wouldnt.you.com), January 06, 2000

More like Master Baiter. I guess mutha had to graduate from the color= command sooner or later. BWHAHAHAH

-- More like Master Baiter (@ .), January 06, 2000

Answers

Hmmm...gee Master Baiter...The reply button seems to work OK for me...musta been y2k problem.

BWHAHAH

-- LOL (@ .), January 06, 2000.


Thanks for sharing...

-- dinosaur (dinosaur@williams-net.com), January 06, 2000.

This must be the same jerkoff that changed our top level to the dingbat font a few months ago.

SYSOPS - SAVE HIS IP ADDRESS! <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), January 06, 2000.


This guy is a legend in his own mind, and he's working on the made for TV movie script to share his greatness with the rest of us.

Geeze the size of his ego is amazing.

-- Mabel Dodge (cynical@me.net), January 06, 2000.


2860 words and 67 paragraphs.

And the reply button still works.

Thanks

-- yup (JustTesting@justtesting.com), January 06, 2000.



Obviously the html trickster wanted not a discussion but a soapbox...some peoples' kids have no manners.

-- Donna (moment@pacbell.net), January 06, 2000.

I've read it all--chemtrails,Belgian troops hiding in basements in Kansas, Infomagic, Milne, the guys who practice disassembling 14 different types of automatic weapons blindfolded, the folks who have 5 years of food stored etc etc and I have NEVER been exposed to anything that comes closer to pure, undistilled lunacy as this post. LadyLogic on acid would be welcome after this.

-- Bobby (bob@aol.com), January 06, 2000.

Uh, buddy, I'm not Hawk, he's the doomer formerly known as @@@.@. But I'll take you up on the ass-kicking offer, as I've been looking for a new punching bag anyway.

-- a (a@a.a), January 06, 2000.

Phenomenal. This is the most remarkable site. I have forwarded a link to my associates. Sysops, thank you for allowing us to participate in this event!

I have even abandoned my lurker status although I swore not to do so again.

Amazing. As your participants indicate we are quite caught up in the hilarity of this "spam". ROTFL? (I hope this is correct).

Excellent as a diversion from serious business.One must lighten up occasionally, yes? The Nation of Net is truly wonderful.

-- mile morris (m.morris@hotmail.com), January 06, 2000.


I just came here a couple of days ago to find a higher degree of y2k reporting and coverage than is available off-line.

But really, the Machivellian intrige is better than the first season of La Femme Nikita. Who needs prime time, this board's got the humor, pathos and Shakespearean politics that beats 'primetime' hands down! I came at first for another perspective on y2k. But you all are so much fun to watch that I think I'll stick around to enjoy some of the post-millenial fireworks as well.

Also, I haven't noticed sincere 'pollys' being beat up too much since I arrived [Dec31 99, I think]. Did it occur before? I have, however, seen 'doomer' get a bit of abuse and baiting in these few days. Perhaps that's to be expected to some degree, but the intensity of it seems even to a stranger to be...well, strange.

Good luck everybody, and may God Bless us all in this new Millenium. Hey, what a great country! Only in America! 8-)

-- tim phronesia (phronesia@webtv.net), January 06, 2000.



Dear Masterbaits--Maybe that's been your whole problem all along, you are blind and now we know why.

-- ~~~ (~~~@~~.xcom), January 06, 2000.

"I'd like to thank the Academy.........."

Now this is an addicted TB troll, here.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), January 06, 2000.


It really, and I mean really get any better than this, my sides hurt. I love ya all...

-- Michael (michaelteever@buffalo.com), January 06, 2000.

Hey gang, I'm feeling a little better.

By the way, MP above is more a hacker type (in the sense of networks) than a programmer. He's a little sad to be so fixated on the others and so angry at himself. I am concerned that he knows about the suitcase on wheels.

He's way, way off base.

Here's the evidence, Dilbert's boss? Where was he when Chase misplaced the 40 billion dollars?

Sorry MB, you're a smart kid, probably got a good collection of 2600, but you've never seen a big organization work.

-- cory (kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net), January 06, 2000.


If we argued with him we wouldn't have a prayer. Upon descending to his level we'd lose everytime as it's obvious he has more experience in being a sphincter than anyone on this forum!

-- Witch Doctor (bobmarley@hotmail.com), January 06, 2000.


Nice to see you checking in Cory. You may be a "clown", a "jester" and a "fool", but your OURS BABY! Don't be a stranger, Cory. Read those D.C. Weather Reports and loved every word. I'm saving those articles. I think they are masterpieces, heart and soul!!

Lovin' it and

-- lurking, as usual (lindagrog@aol.com), January 06, 2000.


Masterbater: I am deeply offended that you neglected to mention my name in your fantasy. I demand an immediate apology and a rewrite, with me in a starring role.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), January 07, 2000.

LOL, Master Bater has found his match!!! Please E-mail Lady Psyco, and be sure to give her EXACT directions to your home. HEE haw hahahaha Talk about a match made in hell....

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), January 07, 2000.

But I don't WEAR bloomers.

-- Perplexed Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), January 07, 2000.

LOL! The first time I saw that little HTML trick on this forum it was one of the regulars who used it to redirect replies to a thread Andy Ray had posted. Andy Ray figured it out (and none too quickly), and posted the "secret" over on Debonkers as though the Holy Grail had been discovered. He urged all the Debonkers to make liberal use of this "hack" to disrupt TB2000. "Master Programmer" must be a 'net newbie!

-- (RUOK@yesiam.com), January 07, 2000.

Dude's handle reminded me of Felix the Cat's arch-enemy "The Master Cylinder". Even sounded a bit like him: noisy and just chock full o' threats and insults and evil laughter.

Looks like Philip Greenspun reached into his "bag of tricks" and pretty eventually neutralized him. Me, I would certainly think twice about making a run at an MIT Website. Many folks in such places (CalTech is another) tend to have a fair amount of engineering savvy along with the inclination and ability to make one's life truly miserable via the miracle of technology.

-- DeeEmBee (macbeth1@pacbell.net), January 07, 2000.


Now, before he goes and accuses Phil of clearing it out, let it be known that it was cleared by a SYSOP.

And it WASN't ME!! I DON'T DO HTMwhatever

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), January 07, 2000.


I, too, am saddened not to find my handle in the hall of shame. Ah, well, just another in life's long string of little disapointments. I so wanted to be memorialazed as one of the 'people who abused the HELL out of someone who just wanted to help them.'

At least we can hope it speaks the truth, when it says it won't come back. But somehow, I doubt that we'll get off that easily.

Godspee

-- Pinkrock (aphotonboy@aol.com), January 07, 2000.


Gee. I haven't done hair for over a year now. Probably attributed to the last 'special' I ran on half price Pollyonly pit waxes.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), January 07, 2000.

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